0 or -12 offset?

[paxamus]

So I am looking at some wheels and tires.  Raceline Ryno 17 inch with 35x 12.50 Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT.  I can't decide between the 0 offset or the -12.  I would love to have some input on this.  They have the -12 in stock but the 0 is backordered.  Would the -12 even be noticeable from the 0?  Any input is appreciated and any pictures would be greatly appreciated!  By the way my truck has a 3.5 Cognito Coilover lift with new UCA's

[The Raven]

I vote for 0.  Obviously it also depends on the width of the wheel and the tire size, but in most cases -12 sticks out significantly.  With wide wheels and tires it can stick out A LOT.  I have 315/70R17's on 8.5 wheels with 0 offset and the tread edge is dead even with my fenders. 

[PureZ71]

The difference is 12mm. I have -12 on mine and they stick out a little. If you want a more a flush look, wait for the 0.

 

 

 

[Vincej138]

The 0mm offset should only be on the 8.5" wide and the -12 on the 17x9. But your looking at .25" diff on the backspace and maybe a little wider tire balloon on the 17x9's.  

 

I'm in same boat as most of the 17x8.5's I like are backordered. I like the clutch from raceline

Edited August 8, 2023 by Vincej138
Added

[paxamus]

Thanks guys- I think that I may pull the trigger on the -12's.  I like the look of those on yours PureZ71.

[The Raven]

Since PureZ71's suspension and tire/wheel setup is pretty close to mine, this will make a pretty useful comparison.  I had to dig through his build thread cause he didn't post his wheel specs but it looks like he's on 18x9's with a -12 offset and 35" tires.  Mine are 17x8.5's with a 0 offset also on 35" tires.  

 

 

One difference is that I have the AIR design flares, but they aren't real big.  But I think this does a good job of showing the difference in poke between 0 and -12.

[jashaw]

-12 will stick out about 2". I needed a 3/8" spacer to clear the brake calipers. 

 

Im running 20x10 -12 with 275/60R20 tires (factory size).

 

Useful tool:

 

 https://tiresize.com/wheel-offset-calculator/

 

 

Im running 20x10 -12 with 275/60R20 tires (factory size).

Edited August 14, 2023 by jashaw

[AdamAT4]

I have -12 and i like the look but on the Seirra it will out you into issues with rub if you up the tire size. i kinda wish i went with 0mm now. 

[cseaman]

-12 will require way more front fender work to not rub. I have owned four T1 trucks and had to do a LOT of trimming and metal bending when I ran 18x9 et-15 BC Forged wheels as opposed to my previous Rotiforms in 17x8.5 et0 and current BC in 18x9 et0. Current 2023 AT4 all I did was pull the fender liner brackets out, which I did preemptively because I can do it with my eyes closed after all these T1s.

[paxamus]

I ended up going with the -12 and I am happy so far!

 

[4banger]

see enough trucks running around with chewed out fenders due to fatties on the offsets that all done with that nonsense, these things are way too expensive now to be beating on them like that, I went from stock 20's with the 33"x11" to 17's with 33"x10" LT 10 ply snowflake at's and dropped 4 lbs a corner, added 1.5" sidewall to retain ride, and 0 offset but skinny tires so I stayed inside the fender but it still pushed the tires out a bit past the stock set up, worked out perfect, dropped 4 lbs a corner to boot, get killer mileage and my actual off-road and snow traction is way better...fatty's no more

Edited September 6, 2023 by 4banger

[rsa]

^{can i leave my 2019 stock and just switch to 17x8.5 0mm offset}