2023 Silverado RST nitpicking

[kickass audio]

so just to be a little bit of a nitpick and see what everyone has for ideas if I can prevent these problems.

 

1.) When I go through a car wash and the blower is blasting the water off my truck, the gas cap door ALWAYS flings open. On my old 2014 the gas door had a little nub on the door that went into a rubber fitting to help hold it tighter to the body. Has anyone modified the door to make it a little harder to open so I can try to get it to stay closed without adding a lock or anything to it and make it look like crap?

 

2.) I noticed that when playing music through the radio, if I am on AM, FM, and SiriusXM, I can use the scroll wheel on the right side of the steering wheel to scroll between stations but when I am playing music from my USB drive, the scroll wheel doesn't do anything and I can only change songs by using the touchscreen or the buttons behind the left side of the wheel. I'm not sure if that's because of the massive amount of music I have stored on the drive or if that is a little glitch others have noticed as well.

 

None of these are critical things but I was curious if anyone else had that little bug with changing songs using the scroll wheel on the steering wheel and if you have a solution to make the door for the gas filler a little harder to open up.

[Mshawn]

I have a 2023 RST z71 and this doesn’t happen to my truck. I don’t think that is right so I would open a complaint with gm. 

[kickass audio]

1 hour ago, Mshawn said:

I have a 2023 RST z71 and this doesn’t happen to my truck. I don’t think that is right so I would open a complaint with gm. 

you don't have either problem or just the gas cap thing? I have had 3 times where the door didn't fly open in the car wash but it almost always pops fully open when it blow dries the water off.

[Bikerjon]

16 minutes ago, kickass audio said:

you don't have either problem or just the gas cap thing? I have had 3 times where the door didn't fly open in the car wash but it almost always pops fully open when it blow dries the water off.

Just washed my Trail Boss and the fuel door has never opened on this one or my 21 T.B. Are you using the same car wash every time?

[Jsdirt]

Not shocked one bit to hear of the fuel door flinging open.

 

Pretty soon, car washes will do body damage if this trend of cheaping out on everything continues at the past 26-year trajectory ... if they're not already! 

[Mshawn]

5 hours ago, kickass audio said:

you don't have either problem or just the gas cap thing? I have had 3 times where the door didn't fly open in the car wash but it almost always pops fully open when it blow dries the water off.

The fuel door. It doesn’t happen when I go through the automatic car was.

[smit303]

My door pops open 80% percent of the time at car washes. PITA.

[MrMagloo]

The fuel door thing is definitely a function of the unique blower location of the Car Wash. Its never happened to me, but I'm sure it could happen at one that is configured differently or has stronger blowers aimed differently.

 

Whatever happened to locking fuel doors?

[Jsdirt]

I've driven all kinds of cars and trucks from many different eras over the past 3+ decades. I can assure you, it's the vehicle - NOT the car wash.

[MrMagloo]

OK, consider the common denominator.  Do you really think GM uses a bunch of different fuel doors with considerably different spring tensions?  I have experienced tons of different car washes with all sorts of different blower configurations and there is no doubt that at the perfect angle, this could definitely occur at one place and not another.

 

Naturally, if he has a defect that's a whole other situation. I suppose he could drive up the local dealers and test a few doors to confirm.

 

I really don't have a dog in this race, as my primary point was, with a locking fuel door, this would be impossible no matter what.

[kickass audio]

22 hours ago, Bikerjon said:

Just washed my Trail Boss and the fuel door has never opened on this one or my 21 T.B. Are you using the same car wash every time?

yes, same carwash down the street from my work every time. I had one time where it didn't pop open on me but every other time it always goes open. I will say the body on this truck is definitely different than the old 14 I had. The roof on my 2023 will give a small pop noise from the force of the blowers in the car wash but my wife's 2017 equinox sounds like someone slammed a hammer on her roof in the car wash.

 

I also think the roof design is strange in that due to the rake from the factory, the outer crease just inside of where the crush points are on the side will let water sit in there until you take off and it dumps it off to the back. I hope that doesn't build up ice chunks in the winter and cause damage to the huge plastic spoiler/brake light, maybe that causes the issue for some people with the leaking rear window I don't know.

 

I agree with the others though on the location of the blower. The new 2023 sits higher and has a taller body than my old 2014 did so i'm sure I have it at just the perfect spot to make it get a full blast of air to pop open all the way. Just like I did notice when I rubbed the roof when waxing the body it makes popping noises on the passenger side rear from the sheet metal giving way a little but with the roof of this truck being up a few inches taller than the old truck it's closer to the upper blowers to get more exposure to the wind force of the blowers.

 

Maybe if I put some window weather stripping around the inner door it can seal it up better but there isn't really a ton of pressure to keep it depressed and tightly sealed so it would still likely pop open. Oh well I can live with that. It's too bad they don't have a latching door like my mothers toyota corolla has.

[Jsdirt]

9 hours ago, MrMagloo said:

OK, consider the common denominator.  Do you really think GM uses a bunch of different fuel doors with considerably different spring tensions?  I have experienced tons of different car washes with all sorts of different blower configurations and there is no doubt that at the perfect angle, this could definitely occur at one place and not another.

 

Naturally, if he has a defect that's a whole other situation. I suppose he could drive up the local dealers and test a few doors to confirm.

 

I really don't have a dog in this race, as my primary point was, with a locking fuel door, this would be impossible no matter what.

Wouldn't shock me one bit if 100 different doors had 100 different spring tensions  - that's the quality control I expect from GM these days.

 

I spent 14 years in small engine repair & auto repair (Running my own shop - did it for decades prior on the side), and I can tell you, from a quality standpoint,  everything from the 21st century sucks. The early part (2000-2006) actually wasn't too bad when you compare it to the past 16 years. After the '07 model year, quality took a nosedive. Systems got super complicated, metal got REALLY thin, we started to see failures in systems that used to be off limits to the cheapout game (Brakes, engines, transmissions, rear ends, etc.), repair costs went through the roof, etc, etc..

 

I still own and operate a 1986 Mercury Grand Marquis LS. We bought it in 2003 with 68k miles. It now has 304k on the ORIGINAL driveline, and ORIGINAL electric in-tank fuel pump. Try getting that to happen on anything today! Runs like a top.

 

Another thing - go through the carwash in a 1950's car, and then do each decade newer - the noise / metal movement gets louder and louder / more and more the newer it is. My '07 Silverado sounded like a child pounding on loose sheet metal hanging from a clothesline whenever you hit the dryer - wipers would lift off the windshield, etc., ... while my '72 El Camino handled me at 150 lbs. climbing on the roof without a single dent!! Try that on anything built the past 26 years, lol - you'll probably end up standing on the seats!  

 

I've been driving for 34 years, and I have NEVER, EVER had a fuel door fly open in a car wash ... not even a little! Nobody I know has either, and none of my buddies that are still in the auto repair industry say they've ever had, or heard of, that happening to anyone either. This is a new thing, and is not in the slightest bit shocking to me.

 

Sounds to me like the typical 21st century cheapout game going deeper and deeper down the wormhole of doom. 

 

 

[TxSquid78]

I have a 2020 RST. Only taken it through a car wash once but dont remember the gas door popping open. As for the steering wheel radio controls, that is just how they work.

[Silverado4x4]

My bet would be that the side brushes at the car wash are spinning the wrong way and hooking the fuel door and flipping it open.

[BigMick2023]

2023 1500 High Country.......

Been through the car wash many times and never had the fuel door open when I exited. 

 

I always get out of the truck after I exit the car wash to inspect my truck.......so I'd know if this was an issue.