New vehicle tariffs

[KARNUT]

11 minutes ago, Atlas said:

 

You don't understand this subject very well, do you? Automotive supply chains are global and have been for quite some time. What gives anyone the right to harm US businesses by dictating where, when, and how they can produce their products?

 

In addition to supporting your "tariffs" aka, national VAT, now you want the government having an even bigger say in how US companies produce their goods? Sick. Sounds like communism to me.

 

But a business person can’t leave an expensive crime ridden state for another. As far as an American company getting products made overseas to the detriment of an American worker is un-American. I was in business all my life. Had products made here in the USA. I made less money for doing that. I also imported products that I couldn’t get here because an American company moved overseas. You don’t seem to know what communism is. It’s not tariffs. Tariffs were the first way the United States made money before taxes. Taxes were mainly developed so land owners couldn’t take over all the land. Tariffs are as American as apple pie. 

[KARNUT]

2 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

But a business person can’t leave an expensive crime ridden state for another. As far as an American company getting products made overseas to the detriment of an American worker is un-American. I was in business all my life. Had products made here in the USA. I made less money for doing that. I also imported products that I couldn’t get here because an American company moved overseas. You don’t seem to know what communism is. It’s not tariffs. Tariffs were the first way the United States made money before taxes. Taxes were mainly developed so land owners couldn’t take over all the land. Tariffs are as American as apple pie. 

[customboss]

1 hour ago, Atlas said:

 

You don't understand this subject very well, do you? Automotive supply chains are global and have been for quite some time. What gives anyone the right to harm US businesses by dictating where, when, and how they can produce their products?

 

In addition to supporting your "tariffs" aka, national VAT, now you want the government having an even bigger say in how US companies produce their goods? Sick. Sounds like communism to me.

 

OMG preach it! 

[Atlas]

1 hour ago, KARNUT said:

But a business person can’t leave an expensive crime ridden state for another. As far as an American company getting products made overseas to the detriment of an American worker is un-American. I was in business all my life. Had products made here in the USA. I made less money for doing that. I also imported products that I couldn’t get here because an American company moved overseas. You don’t seem to know what communism is. It’s not tariffs. Tariffs were the first way the United States made money before taxes. Taxes were mainly developed so land owners couldn’t take over all the land. Tariffs are as American as apple pie. 

 

Uh, you may be forgetting that land was basically considered free for the taking from natives, and then a system was developed by the newly installed government to give land away in homesteading agreements. In either case, that old practice isn't useful for the modern nation which grew out of that, much like tariffs are no longer useful for helping our economy since it grew to be one of the most successful in the world. There's nobody to buy our junk if there isn't a thriving global economy. And let's be honest again. Are you signing up to pick fruit or run a machine that produces socks? Well? Who in this country do you think will?

 

If making and selling everything in America didn't make you rich over the last 50 years, why do you think tariffs are going to make you rich now?

 

Also, please do some reading on the origins of Apple pie. Your face is going to melt.

[KARNUT]

4 minutes ago, Atlas said:

 

Uh, you may be forgetting that land was basically considered free for the taking from natives, and then a system was developed by the newly installed government to give land away in homesteading agreements. In either case, that old practice isn't useful for the modern nation which grew out of that, much like tariffs are no longer useful for helping our economy since it grew to be one of the most successful in the world. There's nobody to buy our junk if there isn't a thriving global economy. And let's be honest again. Are you signing up to pick fruit or run a machine that produces socks? Well? Who in this country do you think will?

 

If making and selling everything in America didn't make you rich over the last 50 years, why do you think tariffs are going to make you rich now?

 

Also, please do some reading on the origins of Apple pie. Your face is going to melt.

There’s a great series about the history of the US. The railroad, buying up land for wood. The starting of taxes  property taxes etc. The wars etc. As far as work. At 12 I started bailing hay. At 16 I worked on an egg farm. At 17 I worked running heavy equipment. Moving to Texas I worked driving a D-8 pushing garbage in a landfill. Was counter man at a Napa store. Later a supervisor at a garbage company. Owned a garbage company. Sold it and invested in the family business. Where I ran pipeline clearing machines. Later selling our patient clearing equipment. Then traveling the country and some out of the country training people to operate the equipment. Retired at 58 from a very successful still thriving family business. Im pretty knowledgeable. For fun I enjoy triggering people who think they know everything.

[Atlas]

3 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

There’s a great series about the history of the US. The railroad, buying up land for wood. The starting of taxes  property taxes etc. The wars etc. As far as work. At 12 I started bailing hay. At 16 I worked on an egg farm. At 17 I worked running heavy equipment. Moving to Texas I worked driving a D-8 pushing garbage in a landfill. Was counter man at a Napa store. Later a supervisor at a garbage company. Owned a garbage company. Sold it and invested in the family business. Where I ran pipeline clearing machines. Later selling our patient clearing equipment. Then traveling the country and some out of the country training people to operate the equipment. Retired at 58 from a very successful still thriving family business. Im pretty knowledgeable. For fun I enjoy triggering people who think they know everything.

 

As long as you have a hobby

[KARNUT]

10 minutes ago, Atlas said:

 

As long as you have a hobby

I enjoy the back and forth. I spent 40 years in a family business bubble. All like minded. Different opinions are opinions. As long it doesn’t get ugly. It’s fine.

[KARNUT]

Vehicle sales were up the last two months due to tariff fears. If I was in the market I would have joined in. It seems there will be very little effect. Sales seemed to be easing probably because it’s close to a new model year. Last year’s model will be discounted and the new ones usually get a model year increase. It seems there’s going to be some  emission changes that could affect prices going forward. Possibly returning reliability to automobiles. The job market is better than expected as well as the GDP. That will help auto sales and if interest rates drop as they should. That too will help auto sales. Listening to so called experts who predict the exact opposite as we’re experiencing. Should go a long way to understanding that perhaps listening to a businessman with experience. Is wiser than listening to people who actually hope for failure. 

[customboss]

3 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

Should go a long way to understanding that perhaps listening to a businessman with experience. Is wiser than listening to people who actually hope for failure. 

There ya go again plug plug plug. 

 

 

[KARNUT]

4 minutes ago, customboss said:

There ya go again plug plug plug. 

 

 

That was recorded time. I didn’t know I lived rent free in your head. Everything I stated are facts. Polls are slanted by selection. I like winning as we are now. You keep hoping for failure as usual. Rock on with your propaganda. I’m very optimistic for the future. I will end with my token interactions with a hater. Good day.

[Atlas]

35 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

Should go a long way to understanding that perhaps listening to a businessman with experience. Is wiser than listening to people who actually hope for failure. 

 

Nobody I know hopes for failure.

 

I'm not sure trusting someone, at this point, with more bankruptcies and failed businesses under their belt, to run a business--or a country--is a good strategy. Past performance is often an indicator of future performance.

 

Oh, and I hate pedophiles.

Edited July 30, 2025 by Atlas

[KARNUT]

6 minutes ago, Atlas said:

 

Nobody I know hopes for failure.

 

I'm not sure trusting someone, at this point, with more bankruptcies and failed businesses under their belt, to run a business--or a country--is a good strategy. Past performance is often an indicator of future performance.

 

Oh, and I hate pedophiles.

I hate false accusations. Good day 

[Atlas]

Just now, KARNUT said:

I hate false accusations. Good day 

 

When are you going to stop worshipping a false prophet? Like, all the lies and failures aren't enough yet? Begging for more?

[KARNUT]

6 minutes ago, Atlas said:

 

When are you going to stop worshipping a false prophet? Like, all the lies and failures aren't enough yet? Begging for more?

Failure? Times are so improved. The only things hater’s can do is try to attack a man. I worship one man. That’s why I don’t bare false witness. By the way this is a tariff thread. 

[Atlas]

2 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

Failure? Times are so improved. The only things hater’s can do is try to attack a man. I worship one man. That’s why I don’t bare false witness. By the way this is a tariff thread. 

 

Failure? More like an epic disaster so far. Tariffs and all. They're taxes and you're frothing at the mouth to pay more of them because brainwashing. Inflation increased last month thanks to tariffs. Durrrr