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Roofer Senior Enthusiast

Roofer

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"unions" and "work" don't go together. LOL!

Amen to the OP.

 

Once corporate America dries up, so does the country and all the cushy union jobs. Think about it.

That's just ignorance talking. I forgive you.

 

 

I know plenty of union workers who agree with me.

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"unions" and "work" don't go together. LOL!

Amen to the OP.

 

Once corporate America dries up, so does the country and all the cushy union jobs. Think about it.

That's just ignorance talking. I forgive you.

 

 

I know plenty of union workers who agree with me.

 

And I know plenty who wouldn't agree and would also work circles around your ass...

 

You get slackers in any profession, Union or non Union, blue collar or white collar but people who dislike Unions choose to focus on those few individuals to generalize the entire group.

 

I take offense to the fact that you say that because I am in a Union that I do not work or pull my weight. You know nothing about me.

Roofer Senior Enthusiast

Roofer

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"unions" and "work" don't go together. LOL!

Amen to the OP.

 

Once corporate America dries up, so does the country and all the cushy union jobs. Think about it.

That's just ignorance talking. I forgive you.

 

 

I know plenty of union workers who agree with me.

 

And I know plenty who wouldn't agree and would also work circles around your ass...

 

 

 

 

 

I wouldn't be too sure Bubba. Now, that's ignorance. Please keep the chest pounding to yourself. When you get done watching the cop shows and firefighter shows, you can come back. The real world will be waiting.

 

Do I need to write out the entire process of how a Union shop changes a light bulb. LOL

Roofer Senior Enthusiast

Roofer

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"unions" and "work" don't go together. LOL!

Amen to the OP.

 

Once corporate America dries up, so does the country and all the cushy union jobs. Think about it.

That's just ignorance talking. I forgive you.

 

 

I know plenty of union workers who agree with me.

 

 

 

You get slackers in any profession, Union or non Union, blue collar or white collar but people who dislike Unions choose to focus on those few individuals to generalize the entire group.

 

 

 

 

Umm, don't the Unions strive to look that way anyways. :)

redjewel2ss Enthusiast

redjewel2ss

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i thought i'd push a few buttons with this one :)

 

though i'm not on any side of this debate. i work in the oil industry so i know what its like for people to frown upon what you do for a living. but i also don't agree with people taking advantage of "poor" people.

 

if everyone quit complaining about not having a job, got out there and did something with their life, and quit blaming everyone else except for themselves for their own choices, then the world would be a better place.

 

and if the government was less involved, and stopped giving hard earned taxpayers money to people who don't deserve it, and instead took that money to pay off the national debt, then the world would be a better place.

 

and if corporate executives quit lining their pockets, and started giving out better compensation to their workers and shareholders, then the world would be a better place.

ChevyTech77 Senior Enthusiast

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i work in the oil industry

 

but i also don't agree with people taking advantage of "poor" people.

Sorry bro but I quit reading as soon as I saw those two comments.

 

Maybe not specifically for you but for oil companies in general it reads, "I work in the oil industry so I know what it's like to take advantage of people.".

redjewel2ss Enthusiast

redjewel2ss

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i work in the oil industry

 

but i also don't agree with people taking advantage of "poor" people.

Sorry bro but I quit reading as soon as I saw those two comments.

 

Maybe not specifically for you but for oil companies in general it reads, "I work in the oil industry so I know what it's like to take advantage of people.".

 

 

please explain how the oil industry takes advantage of people?

 

the entire industry is in EXTREMELY high demand. service companies are willing to give anyone a job with a heart beat and a clean record. anyone in the northeast unemployed can come down to Texas or Louisiana and get hired on the minute they walk through one of those companies doors. sure the hours suck, because there aren't enough workers to do all the work. but the pay is amazing. my buddy works on a frac crew and he makes 6 figures.

 

we do not control the oil price, OPEC does. And did you know about $0.50 of every gallon sold goes to the government, and oil companies actually only make about a 12% profit (when you take into account the investment they made to drill and produce from a well) off the fuel they sell? we provide the fuel that transports the country. no i do not agree with importing goods from other countries, but americans demand for fuel far exceeds our own capacity. we have no choice but to import until alternative fuel is found.

 

i'm actually pro CNG as our next fuel source, its abundant right here in the US, its cheap, it can reduce our dependence on foreign oil, and its cleaner burning. And most modern fuel injected engines will already run on it, all that is needed is a separate tank and lines retrofitted into the vehicle. Our work trucks have these systems and can switch back and forth between CNG and gasoline.

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if everyone quit complaining about not having a job, got out there and did something with their life, and quit blaming everyone else except for themselves for their own choices, then the world would be a better place.

 

and if the government was less involved, and stopped giving hard earned taxpayers money to people who don't deserve it, and instead took that money to pay off the national debt, then the world would be a better place.

 

and if corporate executives quit lining their pockets, and started giving out better compensation to their workers and shareholders, then the world would be a better place.

 

Agreed. Accountability is exceedingly rare these days. It seems like a lot of people would rather be a slave to the "cause" than a free thinker with a job.

ChevyTech77 Senior Enthusiast

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please explain how the oil industry takes advantage of people?

 

the entire industry is in EXTREMELY high demand. service companies are willing to give anyone a job with a heart beat and a clean record. anyone in the northeast unemployed can come down to Texas or Louisiana and get hired on the minute they walk through one of those companies doors. sure the hours suck, because there aren't enough workers to do all the work. but the pay is amazing. my buddy works on a frac crew and he makes 6 figures.

 

we do not control the oil price, OPEC does. And did you know about $1 of every gallon sold goes to the government, and oil companies actually only make about a 7-10% profit off the fuel they sell? we provide the fuel that transports the country. no i do not agree with importing goods from other countries, but americans demand for fuel far exceeds our own capacity. we have no choice but to import until alternative fuel is found.

 

i'm actually pro CNG as our next fuel source, its abundant right here in the US, its cheap, it can reduce our dependence on foreign oil, and its cleaner burning. And most modern fuel injected engines will already run on it, all that is needed is a separate tank and lines retrofitted into the vehicle. Our work trucks have these systems and can switch back and forth between CNG and gasoline.

 

Blah, bub blah, bub blah bro. Seriously, when the oil companies can continue to make record profits year after year, you can kiss my ass that they are not ****ing somebody over, period. The rest of the world is in tank and here we have Mr. Exxon with more money than he knows what to do with and continuly making more and more, every damn year. Until that all equals out a bit, I stand by my previous statement 110%.

 

It's not personal against you dude, trust me. You don't see me defending crooked GM dealerships, do you? Same thing.

redjewel2ss Enthusiast

redjewel2ss

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please explain how the oil industry takes advantage of people?

 

the entire industry is in EXTREMELY high demand. service companies are willing to give anyone a job with a heart beat and a clean record. anyone in the northeast unemployed can come down to Texas or Louisiana and get hired on the minute they walk through one of those companies doors. sure the hours suck, because there aren't enough workers to do all the work. but the pay is amazing. my buddy works on a frac crew and he makes 6 figures.

 

we do not control the oil price, OPEC does. And did you know about $1 of every gallon sold goes to the government, and oil companies actually only make about a 7-10% profit off the fuel they sell? we provide the fuel that transports the country. no i do not agree with importing goods from other countries, but americans demand for fuel far exceeds our own capacity. we have no choice but to import until alternative fuel is found.

 

i'm actually pro CNG as our next fuel source, its abundant right here in the US, its cheap, it can reduce our dependence on foreign oil, and its cleaner burning. And most modern fuel injected engines will already run on it, all that is needed is a separate tank and lines retrofitted into the vehicle. Our work trucks have these systems and can switch back and forth between CNG and gasoline.

 

Blah, bub blah, bub blah bro. Seriously, when the oil companies can continue to make record profits year after year, you can kiss my ass that they are not ****ing somebody over, period. The rest of the world is in tank and here we have Mr. Exxon with more money than he knows what to do with and continuly making more and more, every damn year. Until that all equals out a bit, I stand by my previous statement 110%.

 

It's not personal against you dude, trust me. You don't see me defending crooked GM dealerships, do you? Same thing.

 

 

and that's why i don't work for a company, and never will work for a company like exxon. they are way too big. did you know their employees don't even get bonuses!!! each year they only give out raises. no stock options or bonuses, just a 401k, a separate retirement (kinda like a pension) plan, and a small "cost of living" adjustment.

 

but seriously, most of the profits made off of gasoline goes to foreign countries. crude oil accounts for 68% of the gas price, and most of that crude comes from other countries because the demand exceeds our own supply. Exxon may make a lot of profit, but thats because they control the wellhead, pipeline, refinery, and gas station

music Senior Enthusiast

music

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The rest of the world is in tank and here we have Mr. Exxon with more money than he knows what to do with and continuly making more and more, every damn year. Until that all equals out a bit, I stand by my previous statement 110%.

 

We vote with our wallets, and the vehicles we drive (mpg) and how far we drive have a direct impact on how much Big Oil collects this year, and next, and the next. That's really the only input we have... mpg and miles.

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