Opinion on gas burner HD

bogeypro · December 9, 2012

What is everyone's opinion on the gad burning hd pickups? I believe they have 6.0, but rumored to be getting the 6.2.

bogeypro · December 9, 2012

What is everyone's opinion on the gas burning hd pickups? I believe they have 6.0, but rumored to be getting the 6.2.

KMGZ400 · December 9, 2012

if you dont need a diesel and want a 2500, there is nothing wrong with a 2500 with a 6.0. the 6.0 is a great engine, not a fuel friendly engine though.

from my understanding, the new 2500's are supposed to be getting a 6.2.

crazydog · December 9, 2012

They definitely are not real fuel efficient but I love my 2500 6.0. I really didn't notice a huge, huge difference in gas when I moved up from my 1/2 ton. Of course the 1/2 ton was older so less fuel efficient, I suppose.

MTPoleKat · December 9, 2012

Been hearing the 6.2 rumor for a few years now. I'll believe it when I see it I guess.

Have the 6.0 in my 2012 very happy with it. The six speed tranny makes a huge difference over my 2004 2500hd plus kicking out a little more horsepower doesn't hurt either.

Averaged 12 mpg with the 2004. Getting between 12-15mpg with the 2012. The big difference I've noticed with gas milage is rpm and speed at 65 mph I'm running 1900 rpms and will get 14-15 mpg. Run it up to 70 mph 2100 rpms and 12-13 mpg. With the 2004 it didn't matter you got 12mpg.

Go to the lake every weekend 130 miles one way. Both flat and hilly terrain. Cruise control is a lot more usable IMO not as much downshifting but still will downshift from 6th to 4th on steep grades taking me up over 3500 rpms . So I usually find myself running with the gas pedal in hilly country.

I pull my 5er camper up in the spring and bring it back in the fall. It isn't a Duramax but really impressed with the way it pulls night and day difference then the 2004 (more the 6 speed then motor IMO). The 5er is right around 10k #. Have to drive it a little more then the duramax ( no setting the cruise and forget it) towing wise but the extra $7k wasn't worth it IMO..

rotti · December 9, 2012

Doubt the 6.2, as we know it, will appear in the HD. An aluminum block would be the issue.

I am very pleased with my 2012 6.0 gasser. Plenty of power at altitude here in Colorado with a 2,000 lb camper in the back.

MPG is better than I expected also. That 6 speed tranny is great.

mattymax · December 10, 2012

Love my 2011 6.0lt so far. Very stable on the road. Only had it a little over a week. The 6spd is really nice. It's a totally different animal compared to my last truck - 2007 5.3 AFM 1/2 ton. Mileage is worse but not terrible.

Matt

ATMINF · December 10, 2012

I have had a 2001 3/4ton suburban and my current ride a 2006 3/4 silverado. Both have the 6.0 gasser, my current truck also has a computer tune. Overall very happy with the trucks, like others have stated while its no D-Max it is a very capable truck. It pulls and hauls everything I have needed it to do. Also(knock on wood) I have had no problems with it, now only thing that has "broke" on it, has been the lights on the radio volume and tune buttons. The buttons still work, just the lights in them do work. But since I know where the buttons are it is not a problem.

spitfire · December 10, 2012

Even if the HDs get a 6.2 it won't be for at least a year and probablyy longer as they're going to release the 1500s first when they do the new trucks.

8.1HD/ALLISON · December 10, 2012

I merged topics. Had 2 of the same.

As for your question, All depends on customer preference and what they are gonna do with them. The occasional towing, gassers are great. Constant towing I would go for a diesel. I love mine. I also have a car I drive to work to keep miles off the truck and save on fuel.

therink · December 11, 2012

I have had the 6.0 in first an 05hd, then a 08hd, now in my 12hd and have never had a problem with any of them.

I think the 2012 6.0 is by far the strongest of the 3. I tow a 12k lb fifth wheel rv about 3k miles annually and the 6.0 with the 4:10 axle is certainly up for tge task. Sure a dmax would be better, but not for part time towing and certainly not for the additional 8k. I have a real truck and I love it.

steve

00Silverado4x4 · December 11, 2012

I did some math comparing my current gas mileage to a similar year D-Max mileage. Considering how much/often I tow it would take a few years to break even paying for the diesel. I think when I'm ready to step up to a HD I'm going to take the gas engine...which ever one is available by then.

Prokopchuk_9 · December 11, 2012

I did some math comparing my current gas mileage to a similar year D-Max mileage. Considering how much/often I tow it would take a few years to break even paying for the diesel. I think when I'm ready to step up to a HD I'm going to take the gas engine...which ever one is available by then.

I wouldn't touch a brand new diesel if my life depended on it, the new 6.0 is awesome I think.i drove one for a work truck while my other rig was getting fixed, have about 1 month behind the wheel of a crew cab short box. It wasn't that bad on fuel, been in worse. But I mean come on, if your looking at a 3/4 ton truck that you can't be very concerned with fuel mileage. All in all I thought it would be a decent truck, can't say much for dependability cuz it was brand new also.

If ur gonna go diesel find an 06-10...IMO

SWDoodle · December 11, 2012

I did some math comparing my current gas mileage to a similar year D-Max mileage. Considering how much/often I tow it would take a few years to break even paying for the diesel. I think when I'm ready to step up to a HD I'm going to take the gas engine...which ever one is available by then.

I wouldn't touch a brand new diesel if my life depended on it, the new 6.0 is awesome I think.i drove one for a work truck while my other rig was getting fixed, have about 1 month behind the wheel of a crew cab short box. It wasn't that bad on fuel, been in worse. But I mean come on, if your looking at a 3/4 ton truck that you can't be very concerned with fuel mileage. All in all I thought it would be a decent truck, can't say much for dependability cuz it was brand new also.

If ur gonna go diesel find an 06-10...IMO

Why? The duramax has been proven to be very reliable. Many of the LMM's like I have have well over 200K and upwards of 400K on them already. Sure there were some injector issues on some of the LB7's and some overheating issues with the LLY's, but I used to have a 6.0 gasser and I would never go back unless I no longer needed the towing capacity. The duramax has twice the power of any gasser. I regularly pull 20-24K GCVW with my stock trailer and some cows and I pull it in sixth. Same loads with the gasser I was in direct 3rd around 3200 rpm and shifting to second to 4400 rpm on any hills. Granted this was a 4-speed auto, but it would really scream. Only knock I have on the LMM is fuel mileage. It's only about 15% better on average than the old gasser. Around here diesel is almost 20% higher than gas! So that stinks. If you to a lot, and heavy, there is really no way you could justify the gasser in my opinion. Look at the trade values on diesels with 100K on them compared to the 6.0's. The spread is usually above the $8K initial investment. If you don't tow regularly or heavy or just need extra payload from a lighter pickup, then by all means the 6.0 is the best gas platform you can get in a HD currently. Also many say the maintainance is higher with a diesel. So far other than a few extra quarts of oil and a fuel filter change every 10K or so it's very comparable to the 6.0. Of course I do all the maintainance to my vehicles though. Not trying to knock the 6.0 I just don't see how you could make the statement I would never own another diesel unless you had a really bad experience with one.

Prokopchuk_9 · December 11, 2012

I did some math comparing my current gas mileage to a similar year D-Max mileage. Considering how much/often I tow it would take a few years to break even paying for the diesel. I think when I'm ready to step up to a HD I'm going to take the gas engine...which ever one is available by then.

I wouldn't touch a brand new diesel if my life depended on it, the new 6.0 is awesome I think.i drove one for a work truck while my other rig was getting fixed, have about 1 month behind the wheel of a crew cab short box. It wasn't that bad on fuel, been in worse. But I mean come on, if your looking at a 3/4 ton truck that you can't be very concerned with fuel mileage. All in all I thought it would be a decent truck, can't say much for dependability cuz it was brand new also.

If ur gonna go diesel find an 06-10...IMO

Why? The duramax has been proven to be very reliable. Many of the LMM's like I have have well over 200K and upwards of 400K on them already. Sure there were some injector issues on some of the LB7's and some overheating issues with the LLY's, but I used to have a 6.0 gasser and I would never go back unless I no longer needed the towing capacity. The duramax has twice the power of any gasser. I regularly pull 20-24K GCVW with my stock trailer and some cows and I pull it in sixth. Same loads with the gasser I was in direct 3rd around 3200 rpm and shifting to second to 4400 rpm on any hills. Granted this was a 4-speed auto, but it would really scream. Only knock I have on the LMM is fuel mileage. It's only about 15% better on average than the old gasser. Around here diesel is almost 20% higher than gas! So that stinks. If you to a lot, and heavy, there is really no way you could justify the gasser in my opinion. Look at the trade values on diesels with 100K on them compared to the 6.0's. The spread is usually above the $8K initial investment. If you don't tow regularly or heavy or just need extra payload from a lighter pickup, then by all means the 6.0 is the best gas platform you can get in a HD currently. Also many say the maintainance is higher with a diesel. So far other than a few extra quarts of oil and a fuel filter change every 10K or so it's very comparable to the 6.0. Of course I do all the maintainance to my vehicles though. Not trying to knock the 6.0 I just don't see how you could make the statement I would never own another diesel unless you had a really bad experience with one.

Buddy, you're talking to a guy that owns an LMM. My last truck was a 6 litre, I know exactly what you are saying. I've seen the pros and cons of both. I was actually talking to the OP, he says he won't tow much. Doesn't feel the need for a diesel than their is nothing wrong with the gasser. They are solid trucks dude. Way more powa and better mileage than the old 4 speeds.

Not to thread jack but you need to fix up that LMM, mine is on 35's an I can get a solid 17-18 mpg on the highway. My 6 litre on 33's would get 12 maybe 13 at best. U need a good efi tuna and a str8 pipe brotha!!!

I did some math comparing my current gas mileage to a similar year D-Max mileage. Considering how much/often I tow it would take a few years to break even paying for the diesel. I think when I'm ready to step up to a HD I'm going to take the gas engine...which ever one is available by then.

I wouldn't touch a brand new diesel if my life depended on it, the new 6.0 is awesome I think.i drove one for a work truck while my other rig was getting fixed, have about 1 month behind the wheel of a crew cab short box. It wasn't that bad on fuel, been in worse. But I mean come on, if your looking at a 3/4 ton truck that you can't be very concerned with fuel mileage. All in all I thought it would be a decent truck, can't say much for dependability cuz it was brand new also.

If ur gonna go diesel find an 06-10...IMO

Why? The duramax has been proven to be very reliable. Many of the LMM's like I have have well over 200K and upwards of 400K on them already. Sure there were some injector issues on some of the LB7's and some overheating issues with the LLY's, but I used to have a 6.0 gasser and I would never go back unless I no longer needed the towing capacity. The duramax has twice the power of any gasser. I regularly pull 20-24K GCVW with my stock trailer and some cows and I pull it in sixth. Same loads with the gasser I was in direct 3rd around 3200 rpm and shifting to second to 4400 rpm on any hills. Granted this was a 4-speed auto, but it would really scream. Only knock I have on the LMM is fuel mileage. It's only about 15% better on average than the old gasser. Around here diesel is almost 20% higher than gas! So that stinks. If you to a lot, and heavy, there is really no way you could justify the gasser in my opinion. Look at the trade values on diesels with 100K on them compared to the 6.0's. The spread is usually above the $8K initial investment. If you don't tow regularly or heavy or just need extra payload from a lighter pickup, then by all means the 6.0 is the best gas platform you can get in a HD currently. Also many say the maintainance is higher with a diesel. So far other than a few extra quarts of oil and a fuel filter change every 10K or so it's very comparable to the 6.0. Of course I do all the maintainance to my vehicles though. Not trying to knock the 6.0 I just don't see how you could make the statement I would never own another diesel unless you had a really bad experience with one.

Buddy, you're talking to a guy that owns an LMM. My last truck was a 6 litre, I know exactly what you are saying. I've seen the pros and cons of both. I was actually talking to the OP, he says he won't tow much. Doesn't feel the need for a diesel than their is nothing wrong with the gasser. They are solid trucks dude. Way more powa and better mileage than the old 4 speeds.

Not to thread jack but you need to fix up that LMM, mine is on 35's an I can get a solid 17-18 mpg on the highway. My 6 litre on 33's would get 12 maybe 13 at best. U need a good efi tuna and a str8 pipe brotha!!!