Do you think gm will add power?

chevyguy45 · October 4, 2014

The 2015 f150 5.0 got a horsepower bump to 385 and lost around 700 pounds. Do you guys think chevy will add any power to the 5.3? Im sure it would be very easy to give it a bump in power.

MNDaveC · October 4, 2014

They probably could get more HP out of the 5.3 for 2016 model year... but...

The real hot topic will be once Ford announces MPG for the 2.7L Ecoboost V6 and whether the 2.7 can retain a MPG lead in real world "truck" situations.

They are keeping the MPG secret for an awfully long time... I'm surprised its not out by now!

chevyguy45 · October 4, 2014

I have been impressed with their power numbers from the 2.7 to the 5.0 i just hope gm doesn't start having to play catch up again for mid level engines. I do like our interior better though. I think a power gain and the 8 speed would be perfect for the 5.3.

j-ten-ner · October 4, 2014

I think "...real world "truck" situations..." for half tons are like carrying a surf board, buggies, groceries and pulling the camping trailer twice a year.

And that's exactly what the moped engine is made for.

And as for 5.3...I don't think it is a problem at all to add power.

If I was GM I'd be more concerned about my reputation und would rather work on that.

so long

j-ten-ner

ifixedit · October 5, 2014

I think "...real world "truck" situations..." for half tons are like carrying a surf board, buggies, groceries and pulling the camping trailer twice a year.

And that's exactly what the moped engine is made for.

And as for 5.3...I don't think it is a problem at all to add power.

If I was GM I'd be more concerned about my reputation und would rather work on that.

so long

j-ten-ner

Totally agree! Way too many rinky-dink re-calls on GM products for the most mindless "let's save a few pennies on a cheaper light bulb" situations instead of doing it the right way in the first place!

355HP Z71 · October 5, 2014

If this aluminum body works for Ford I am guessing GM will do it as well ? I read some rumors that GM is looking to do a silverado redesign in 2017 or 2018 with a aluminum body ?? I don't think they can wait their normal 7 years anymore . IMO

j-ten-ner · October 5, 2014

... I don't think they can wait their normal 7 years anymore ...

They could. If they were ahead of the game for once.

so long

j-ten-ner

nards444 · October 5, 2014

If this aluminum body works for Ford I am guessing GM will do it as well ? I read some rumors that GM is looking to do a silverado redesign in 2017 or 2018 with a aluminum body ?? I don't think they can wait their normal 7 years anymore . IMO

No I don't think so either, as it seems about 4 maybe 5 years is the max for a total redesign. If you ask me GM is already in the back seat. Hate Ford and dodge as you may, you cant deny their innovation and willingness to try new things, and this is where GM is failing. The 14 is a nice truck, I own one, but really its just a huge make over from the last model, really nothing ground breaking with it.

nards444 · October 6, 2014

They could. If they were ahead of the game for once.

so long

j-ten-ner

IMVHO. This was a 75% redesign, alot of new things, with some cool things, but mainly matching competitors not really exceeding.. From reading other forums and seeing write ups from supposed insiders This is what I believe to be true for the current truck and the future. From what I have heard engineers and developers wanted to do more with the new truck, but budget and infighting shot down a lot of new idea, in particular the power packs. They decided to bring in the 6.2 and redesign the 5.3 which in the end was cheaper as they had the 6.2 and with the 5.3 they had something to start with. So I beleive probably around 17 will be seeing something new or somethin entirely new. Between now and then GM is going to see how Ram does with this diesel and how Ford continues to do with the eco and their new aluminum.

I think one the next changes is going to be their engine line up. If you look at history when GM offered a bigger motor and look at others such as Ford, I think you will see the 6.2 disappear. It has its merits, and sales numbers will tell, looking historically these engines just do not last in the line up. I also think you will see GM look at an eco diesel type engine, but unless Ram takes off with that(which do to EPA regulations and diesel prices combined with performance, its a dumb idea if you ask me) I dont see GM going that route. What I think you will see and what GM will have to do is add a turbo gas engine. I also think you will see the 5.3 go away as the new firebird thats coming out next year is suppose to come with a 5.0l 420hp/390 torque engine. So between that 5.0, an eco gas engine, and current line up is what I think you will see minus the 6.2l. I think if we had to guess, I think you could see the 5.0 as the big dog as it produces just as much power as the 6.2 but probably is more efficient. GM then may stick with their 4.3l and then add an eco gas engine to replace the 5.3l.

KARNUT · October 6, 2014

I read last wk that Ram increased eco diesel production x3 because of demand.

nards444 · October 6, 2014

I read last wk that Ram increased eco diesel production x3 because of demand.

I will be curious to see what happens as I like the idea of it. Just in its current execution I dont think it makes sense. The true test will be 2-3 years from now on what sales look like.

KARNUT · October 6, 2014

I will be curious to see what happens as I like the idea of it. Just in its current execution I dont think it makes sense. The true test will be 2-3 years from now on what sales look like.

There is a chance I may be interested in the new mid size GM diesel, depending on price and power. In the days of very little merge courtesy you have to have power or you SOL. The V8 Toyota diesel may be another interest, but not in the beginning they will be pricey.

Daryl LBZ · October 6, 2014

Going on past experience with the GMT900, I'm going to guess that they won't add any more power to the 5.3L.

fondupot · October 6, 2014

I honestly don't expect to see anything really stellar for the F150 mpg with the 2.7L. And the 700 lb drop in weight kind of skewed. Not every model will be getting a 700 lb drop in weight. That's only the Crew cab models equipped with a 2.7L, which was compared to a 2014 model with a 5.0L. Bottom line is the Ford trucks still weigh a lot. Its a truck. And while they might have improved aerodynamics, they still will be bricks in the wind at speed.

I think the 2.7L will be rated to do 18 city - 24 highway in a 2wd crew cab configuration. Which is comparable to a silverado 4.3L crew cab 2wd silverado. The 5.0 and the 3.5L eco might get some slight bumps, but I would guess 1 mpg better for those motors.

nards444 · October 6, 2014

There is a chance I may be interested in the new mid size GM diesel, depending on price and power. In the days of very little merge courtesy you have to have power or you SOL. The V8 Toyota diesel may be another interest, but not in the beginning they will be pricey.

One of a few things has to happen for me to pull the trigger. 1. price has to be comparable, currently Ram has a 4k price tag on their eco diesel, not happening. 2. Power has to be there for a half ton I think 250-300, with torque being in the 450 range. 3. MPG would have to get close to 35mpg or diesel would have to drop a $1.00 to make it make sense. Currently with the 28MPG that dodge says theres can do on a 4x2 on HWY, make that a 4x4 and then factor diesel cost 50 cents more a gallon then times that by 12k miles then factor in that 4 k upcharge you lose money on the ram.