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I have had a veer to the left on my truck since the day I brought it home ,I thought it was maybe tire pressure but I experimented with pressures from 32 to 40 pounds and no change the thing is it is not constant and comes and goes,I have 3000 kilometres on it now ,I called the dealer about it but they want me to pay for an alignment and out of principle I refused,anyway I had my wheels off yesterday to clean them and put a coat of wax on for winter and I noticed a lot of weight on the drivers side front wheel there is four weights on the wheel in four different locations one is about 4 inches long one about 3 inches long and two about 2 inches long,I was wondering if maybe this much weight is due to a bad belt in the tire and maybe causing the veer to the left,I plan to move the tire to the back to see if it helps when I get a chance,but for now any thoughts.thanks

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Find a different dealer, as said, it's under warranty, you shouldn't have to pay. If it's a come and go problem, you may have a intermittent brake problem as well.

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Very common to have vehicles out of alignment from the factory.. My truck was out of alignment from the dealership. Got it with 2 miles on and it pulled to the left pretty bad. I wouldn't even waste time trying to get an alignment from the dealer. And the wheel weights should be takenoff immeditaley or they will eat through the rim.. I have a buddy who just peels the off and Dosent get his tires rebalanced and dosent have any issues or you could do what I did, get tired balanced with stick on weights

thewhitestallion Senior Enthusiast

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I have had a veer to the left on my truck since the day I brought it home ,I thought it was maybe tire pressure but I experimented with pressures from 32 to 40 pounds and no change the thing is it is not constant and comes and goes,I have 3000 kilometres on it now ,I called the dealer about it but they want me to pay for an alignment and out of principle I refused,anyway I had my wheels off yesterday to clean them and put a coat of wax on for winter and I noticed a lot of weight on the drivers side front wheel there is four weights on the wheel in four different locations one is about 4 inches long one about 3 inches long and two about 2 inches long,I was wondering if maybe this much weight is due to a bad belt in the tire and maybe causing the veer to the left,I plan to move the tire to the back to see if it helps when I get a chance,but for now any thoughts.thanks

 

I don't think the wheel weights are your issue but they are an issue to be addressed. It is kind of hard to put in words but I will try. You should have weights on both sides of the wheels (inner wheel and outer part of the wheel). If I am not mistaken all of the k2 trucks do not have a lip on the outside (pretty side) of the wheel except for the 17" wheels. So if you have 18's, 20's, 22's + you should have stick on weights (tape weights) right behind the spokes of the wheel. Now all of those weights should be grouped together. If they are not grouped together, i.e. if they are on opposite ends of the barrel then they are actually counter balancing themselves and therefore the wheel needs to be rebalance. The same can be said for the inner part of the wheel. however the inner part of the wheel will more than likely have hammer on weights. Make sure all the weights are grouped together. If you are a little confused I am sure you can youtube how to balance tires and hunter or coats will have some videos on how to properly balance a tire.

 

as far as how much weight is too much weight, that is relative to the tire / wheel combo you have. I worked at Discount tire for 5.5 years and I would say over 5oz of weight is a little much. If that was on my truck I would road force or spin the tire 180 degrees on the wheel to try and get less weight. However no matter what you do sometimes that is just what the tire calls for.

 

I have 275 70 18 bfg all terrains and 1 of the 4 tires calls for an excessive amount of weight. I tried road forcing and spinning the tire 180 degrees but it still calls for a lot of weight. I did a different kind of balance called a static balance and I get no vibration from it. If you have anymore questions you can pm me. also if your not sure if the tire weights are put on properly post up a picture of the inner wheel with the weights visible and I can tell you if the weights are no counter balancing themselves.

 

GL hope you get it fixed.

fondupot Senior Enthusiast

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Mine also had a slight veer to the left after I took delivery. Dealer did an alignment for free and sure enough it was out of spec just a bit. Been driving fine ever since a few months back when I had an oil change and tire rotation done. Now the veer is back. It's subtle but really noticeable. I traded trucks with my dad today so he could drive it to see if he notices it.

 

I actually had them look at it again, they flipped the front tires and checked the alignment and they said it was good to go. Still veered left.

 

My dealer has been really bad at getting back to me because my service writer tells me they are inundated with recall fixes for the entire catalog of GM vehicles.

 

My guess is it's probably a tire issue, but since flipping the front tires didn't do anything, it could be a rear tire causing it. But I didnt think that was as common. Who knows. These Goodyear tires a junk anyways.

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Mine also had a slight veer to the left after I took delivery. Dealer did an alignment for free and sure enough it was out of spec just a bit. Been driving fine ever since a few months back when I had an oil change and tire rotation done. Now the veer is back. It's subtle but really noticeable. I traded trucks with my dad today so he could drive it to see if he notices it.

 

I actually had them look at it again, they flipped the front tires and checked the alignment and they said it was good to go. Still veered left.

 

My dealer has been really bad at getting back to me because my service writer tells me they are inundated with recall fixes for the entire catalog of GM vehicles.

 

My guess is it's probably a tire issue, but since flipping the front tires didn't do anything, it could be a rear tire causing it. But I didnt think that was as common. Who knows. These Goodyear tires a junk anyways.

I think it is a tire issue as well,I don't think I will waste my time with dealer and just put some michelins on it ,on my previous truck I had pull to the right that drove me crazy I had it aligned and it checked out fine so I went and replaced the tires with a set michelins and all was well .
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Mine also had a slight veer to the left after I took delivery. Dealer did an alignment for free and sure enough it was out of spec just a bit. Been driving fine ever since a few months back when I had an oil change and tire rotation done. Now the veer is back. It's subtle but really noticeable. I traded trucks with my dad today so he could drive it to see if he notices it.

 

I actually had them look at it again, they flipped the front tires and checked the alignment and they said it was good to go. Still veered left.

 

My dealer has been really bad at getting back to me because my service writer tells me they are inundated with recall fixes for the entire catalog of GM vehicles.

 

My guess is it's probably a tire issue, but since flipping the front tires didn't do anything, it could be a rear tire causing it. But I didnt think that was as common. Who knows. These Goodyear tires a junk anyways.

just curious as to whether they did a tire rotation when they did the alignment,you probably would of mentioned it if they did but thought I would ask
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Well I just went over to my dealership and they said they would do the alignment for free ,I go in tomorrow to have it done keeping my fingers crossed that it is a little out of alignment and they can fix it because I would like to use these tires until next spring if possible as I have to get a set of winter tires and wheels for my wife's car in tthe very near future ,I don' t want to be tire poor.

thewhitestallion Senior Enthusiast

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Pic of wheel thanks all

 

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ok so the weights that are circled in red are counter balancing themselves. those weights need to be completely removed and re-balanced. more that likely when the wheel gets re-balanced the weights will end up somewhere around where the black paint is at but that is not set in stone.

 

the exact same goes for the weights that are circled in green. they are counter balancing each other and need to be completely removed and re-balanced.

 

They might try and tell you that the machine says "0" if they spin it on the balancer with the weights in place but i am 100% sure that, that is the incorrect way to balance tires.

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Thanks for that white stallion ,I will mention it to them tomorrow when I go in for the alignment,I don't seem to have any vibration problems just the veer to the left do you think this could be a contributing factor maybe due to a bad belt,the rest of the wheels only have one or two small weights on them .

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Thanks for that white stallion ,I will mention it to them tomorrow when I go in for the alignment,I don't seem to have any vibration problems just the veer to the left do you think this could be a contributing factor maybe due to a bad belt,the rest of the wheels only have one or two small weights on them .

 

I do not think that the wheel weight is your problem when it comes to your vehicle pulling to the left. I am pretty surprised that you do not have any vibration from the wheel weights though especially with this being a new truck. usually when the vehicles are new and the steering is real tight you can feel any little vibration. As far as the tire having a bad belt, the only way to judge that is to either spin the tire with the wheel jacked up in the air or on a tire balancer. If you do that just look head on with the tread of the tire and look for the tire to hop in certain places or for it to be moving side to side, the tread that is. oh and just for the record the amount of weight on your tire in this picture is not a lot, the inside weight is a total of about 2.5 - 3.5oz as it sits and the weights behind the spoke are about 1.5 - 2.5 oz. if they rebalance them correctly then chances are it will be about 1/2 oz less on both sides.

 

My personal opinion on your truck pulling to the left is just your alignment.

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I went and looked at my truck after reading this thread and sure enough 3 of my wheels have weights all over them in random places. I always thought they should be in one spot.

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