Will they ever put a diesel in a 1500?

[Ventilator]

That was back in the early 80 models. Mostly in military issue trucks & blazers.

 

Yep, drove a bunch of them. In the winter, some were worthless.

 

And yes, they were the 6.2 L.

[COP TZR]

http://www.dieselhub.com/idi/olds-diesel.html In cars and pickups...

 

 

We had one of those in a old oldsmobile 4 door, engine didn't last long at all and had gm replacement put in. Never really got any mileage, The neighbor we got it from also had a propane mid-size Ford LTD 2.3L, was just as bad, but did last longer.

 

The old vs new diesels are no comparison. I had/drove many pre-2000 stuff and its not the same, there were dependable ones, but now they just drive so much better.

[Ventilator]

Father inlaw had one in oldsmobile Delta 88 (or 98?)car and one in a pickup at the same time. Just not sure if it was a 1500 or a 2500, but I think it was a 1500. Had a friend with the smaller V8 diesel (a 260 maybe) in a cutlass -- it couldn't get out of it's own way.

 

 

Yeah, that 260 Cutlass was when the Cutlass became the Gutless. My relatives bought one of those back around 79 or 80, and with 5 people in it, it could not start out on a hill and go up. You had to go down first, and get a running start. POS!

[Savagecanuck1]

Unfortunately GM is a follower and not a leader.It only took them 8 years after ford to offer a 6.6" crew in a 1500. I only see them coming too market with a diesel after Ford has one.The first one to offer a diesel with 300 hp and 500 ft lbs of torque will get my money. I had a 2011 duramax.I do miss that torque and sold it as it was almost too much truck for me.No gas engine will pull like a well tuned diesel.

[Silverado-Hareek]

My money is on it eventually being an option within the next 5-10 years. Fuel economy standards are only getting more strict and we're really hitting the ceiling here of what an internal combustion gas engine can do in a truck power wise and still save gas. They either need to come up with some sort of hybrid OR switch to a new engine and to me, the latter is the only viable option unless they can figure out how to make some ridiculously small yet powerful batteries. My guess is the diesel option in the Colorado/Canyon is a first run test before they switch over their main money makers (full size trucks & SUV's) to diesel engines. I'm extremely excited to see the new Titan and Tundra with the Cummins diesel engines. I don't care how ugly the trucks are I'm salivating over what's under the hood. Me personally, I'd much rather have a simple diesel engine than this EcoTec engine with 9 million things going on to try squeeze every possible mile out of a drop of gas. It's an engineering marvel that it works so smoothly and we don't have more issues, yet I can't help but want a simpler design despite that.

[nards444]

Dodge already has. From the initial look, it looks appealing, but in reality if its anything like what dodge has it really doesn't make sense when you break it down. if you look at the eco diesel in the ram it has 240hp and 420 torque. Hp isnt everything but to me that number should be around 300, so as it sits your 110hp or so from the gasers and only 30-40 torque than what than other gasers on the market and the same as the ecoboost and less than the 6.2l in the chevy. Also the ecodiesel tow rating is only in the 9k range, making no power tow worthy than anything on the market. Now for cost. The eco diesel has a 4k upcharge. Yes it CAN get 28mpg on the highway or around 23 all around. Factor in the upcharge and the fact diesel is 50cents to a dollar more a gallon, you will never make your money back on the ecodiesel in the ram, never. So your buying something that will cost you more money and wont give you advantage in anything.

 

Really to make it worthwhile in a half ton, one of two things has to happen. 1. they have to make it a true ecodiesel as in get 35-40mpg, which would make it a small diesel and probably put towing around the 7k range for towing, which at 40mpg it would be a nice sell. 2. Now I think what it really sell and be a game changer if they put a diesel in half ton that had 300hp and 450-500torque, got 30-35 hwy and would have to tow at least 10k, and lastly the upcharge would have to be around the 1500-2 mark. So for GM to put it in their smaller canyon tuck, makes sense. Im still disappointed that GM did nothing but redesign their 5.3 for this 1/2 ton line up.

[nards444]

Unfortunately GM is a follower and not a leader.It only took them 8 years after ford to offer a 6.6" crew in a 1500. I only see them coming too market with a diesel after Ford has one.The first one to offer a diesel with 300 hp and 500 ft lbs of torque will get my money. I had a 2011 duramax.I do miss that torque and sold it as it was almost too much truck for me.No gas engine will pull like a well tuned diesel.

I like my 14, but that's my biggest complaint with it, is really its nothing new. All GM did was update their highly outdated last model to something that just matched what was currently offered by others.

[RyanbabZ71]

I like my 14, but that's my biggest complaint with it, is really its nothing new. All GM did was update their highly outdated last model to something that just matched what was currently offered by others.

Just updated?

 

It's all all new interior and all new engine lineup. More than just an update/refresh.

 

 

Ryan

[Super 8]

 

 

No. The 5.7 diesel was only in passenger cars. The trucks all had a 6.5L diesel. I think in the 80s it didn't even have a turbo.

 

The addition of the first diesel engine of the three American automakers in a light duty pickup the 125 hp 350 cu in (5.7 L) Oldsmobile diesel V-8 began in 1978

In the 1982 model year, the 151 hp 379 cu in (6.2 L) Detroit Diesel V-8 was added^[39] to replace the LF9 Oldsmobile diesel.

[Super 8]

Wasn't the infamous 5.7L (350cu in) diesel in a 1500?

Yes, a friend of mine that I worked with had one with a 5.7 Olds.

[redwngr]

I like my 14, but that's my biggest complaint with it, is really its nothing new. All GM did was update their highly outdated last model to something that just matched what was currently offered by others.

Ya, still has an engine, cab and 4 wheels.....

[nards444]

Just updated?

 

It's all all new interior and all new engine lineup. More than just an update/refresh.

 

 

Ryan

I agree, but like I said is all they did was match competitors very few things you can say about it, where you say WOW, or they really one upd ford or dodge. Your right this truck is leaps and bounds better the old one, but comparing yourself to what you did last really means little.

[KARNUT]

We had a couple of the 6.5 turbo GMs in P/Us one in a half ton the other in a one ton dually in 95. They ran good no problems. They came with 5 year 100k warranty. The one ton hit that in three years the 1/2 ton in 5. We traded after the warranty to be on the safe side. I had one 5.7 in an olds different story, always fixing leaks fuel leaks and oil leaks.

[VMaxtastic]

I had a '91 GMC with a non turbo 6.2 diesel, for work. That thing was a tank, and great on fuel. It was an awesome little truck.

[Mickey_D]

Had a Delta 88 diesel that I paid $200 for in 92'. Replaced the alternator (did not run, why it was cheap) and it ran great for a couple of years and averaged over 30 on the hwy until the engine locked up one morning. Other than changing the oil a couple of times and adding freon, it was a reliable and cheap way to get to work. But it was ugly! The scrap guy picked it up and gave me a $100 and was amazed that it lasted to almost 200K miles.