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Sierra706 Senior Enthusiast

Sierra706

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Thanks for all the info. Is the hypertech system good?

It's a tune, so your drivetrain warranty will be in jeopardy

 

 

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stevev Enthusiast

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wow the crappy Range is still tripping warning messages. I couldn't stand that on my 2014, had to take to dealer to clear the message. I went full tune and never looked back. I wouldn't waste any money on the Range product.

 

Hypertech is good, tried one at first, but now I'm using Diablosport I2 and feel more of a difference vs. Hypertech.

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wow the crappy Range is still tripping warning messages. I couldn't stand that on my 2014, had to take to dealer to clear the message. I went full tune and never looked back. I wouldn't waste any money on the Range product.

 

Hypertech is good, tried one at first, but now I'm using Diablosport I2 and feel more of a difference vs. Hypertech.

Yah, from what I understand, there really isn't s tuner yet for the '17.... Think I saw a couple threads on here somewhere.

 

Plus you're taking chances with your warranty if something does happen from your tune. I know they have to prove it, but not all shops are friendly.. :)

 

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Thanks for all the info. Is the hypertech system good?

 

Hypertech Max Energy installed on '15. I've tried both the 92 octane tune and the regular fuel tune, 92 octane fuel may have been a tad quicker at WOT in the upper rpms, wasn't worth having to run premium fuel (JMHO). I think any tuner is going to accomplish a very limited seat of the pants feel in a 6000# truck. What I do like are the trans shift points and firmness adjustments as well as recalibrate tire diameter as well as ability to turn off AFM. My '15 has the 87 octane tune, stock shift points, +25% firmness, AFM disabled and tire size adjusted for 32" (275/65/18).

JRoyPDX Enthusiast

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Well, it looks like I am now a Range AFM beta tester for the 2017 version. I'll let you know how it goes.

 

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JRoyPDX Enthusiast

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Beta version is a no go. Took a few drives and the message is back.

jpinoy Enthusiast

jpinoy

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Beta version is a no go. Took a few drives and the message is back.

That sucks....

 

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JRoyPDX Enthusiast

JRoyPDX

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That sucks....

 

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I'm gonna keep testing it and report back to them. Hopefully that can help them fix it.
NorCalSLT Enthusiast

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As far as I understand there's a lot of misinformation in this thread.

If you use a tuner such as diablo sport or EFI Live (black bear peformance), both claim there is no evidence that flash count or other way to identify any tampering/tuning if you flash stock files before bringing back to a dealer.

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Yah, from what I understand, there really isn't s tuner yet for the '17.... Think I saw a couple threads on here somewhere.

Plus you're taking chances with your warranty if something does happen from your tune. I know they have to prove it, but not all shops are friendly.. :)

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BBP does a great job tuning 2017's.

 

Your taking a very small risk with a typical tune.

Quite different if your going for a 700hp+ supercharged build or something:

If your not comfortable then don't do it.

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As far as I understand there's a lot of misinformation in this thread.

If you use a tuner such as diablo sport or EFI Live (black bear peformance), both claim there is no evidence that flash count or other way to identify any tampering/tuning if you flash stock files before bringing back to a dealer.

From what I understand, the Range claims it isn't suppose to write/alter anything either, but my report when I brought mine in to clear the reduced steering assist warning, the dealer wrote down, multiple codes in modules. Didn't list what the codes were and what modules, but it would seem, the Range ended up throwing codes, but didn't turn my CEL on....

 

When that key word, "claim", by EFI/Diablo turns into "guarantee", then spending that amount for a tuner will hurt less.. :D and that was one thing I really wanted from the tuner, the ability to undo the tunes if needing to bring it in for service and not worry about tripping something they can see to screw you out of warranty coverage. Some shops can be a pain.

 

BBP does a great job tuning 2017's.

 

Your taking a very small risk with a typical tune.

Quite different if your going for a 700hp+ supercharged build or something:

If your not comfortable then don't do it.

That's the problem, there's always a small risk, depending on the dealer I guess. The dealer I go to seems ok for now. It's not the comfort level, it's, is turning off the AFM before warranty runs out worth it or not. It's not like every truck with AFM is biting the dirt.

 

I'd rather do a tune then use a bandaid AFM, but at the time I was looking, there were no tuner available for the 2017, just like Range didn't quite have a working firmware.

 

I've been using M5 around town and then letting V4 kick in on freeway/interstate runs, which is not that often.

 

 

 

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Sierra706 Senior Enthusiast

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As far as I understand there's a lot of misinformation in this thread.

If you use a tuner such as diablo sport or EFI Live (black bear peformance), both claim there is no evidence that flash count or other way to identify any tampering/tuning if you flash stock files before bringing back to a dealer.

Their lying

 

 

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NorCalSLT Enthusiast

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Their lying

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There is a huge thread debating it that spans many pages.

But having read it all as far as I am aware there has not been a single instance that someone was actually denied warranty coverage due to a tune being detected if following procedure.

Feel free to send an email to bbp if you have any questions, very knowledgeable and helpful people.

Like I said though if not comfortable don't do it. :)

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