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1 hour ago, customboss said:

Not disclosing proprietary info is not lying IMHO. It's less than 15%.  Just trying to keep their way to meet and exceed GEN 3 close to vest.  Called common sense in marketing.  One of the odd things about internet introduction is that just because people can find lots of info it doesn't mean I can know all.  As a matter of fact without good background in science, chemistry, materials, a lot of this stuff is gobbledy goop to the untrained or uneducated. 

Not all is patented nor can be and thats especially true in chemistry. 

 

And yet they could have had the exact same effect by saying <12.5% and looked transperant and SMART.

 

Look, it can't be Gen 3 and be equal to or over 12.5% now, can it? Every number in-between is automatically eliminated. So just say it. This <15% statement isn't protecting anything. Intellectual or otherwise. Just random nonsense. 

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11 hours ago, Big_Kahuna said:

so do you think this valvoline EP  is a great oil, sure the additive package looks great to me but by knowledge about oil is not great , I just know basic ..... 

Brandon, I haven't tested this exact formulation. I have tested its earlier iterations and its definitely better as a GEN 3 Dexos1 than adding anything to it. Try it alone and see how it works. Test the used oil in your new GMC with Nicks ISO certified lab service to find out.  Nick = Black02Silverado  

GEN3 is a major improvement in licensed DEXOS1 formulations. 

 

 

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customboss Senior Enthusiast

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11 hours ago, Grumpy Bear said:

 

And yet they could have had the exact same effect by saying <12.5% and looked transperant and SMART.

 

Look, it can't be Gen 3 and be equal to or over 12.5% now, can it? Every number in-between is automatically eliminated. So just say it. This <15% statement isn't protecting anything. Intellectual or otherwise. Just random nonsense. 

Hey Grumpy I don't market for Valvoline which is one of the last US based and US developed oil formulators remaining.  MAYBE the marketing dorks who wrote the tech sheet got that through, heck I don't know except I worked with their R&D group for years and they are top notch, however they aren't marketing gurus.  One of my favorite friends and colleagues at Valvoline/Ashland Oil/Chem was Vic Kersey ( RIP ) Covid got him........so I can't ask him what the heck is going on.  

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Was able to trick Valvoline website ( wouldn't work yesterday)  EP 0w20 SDS and get this download.  The formula is at least 30% but probably up to 40% PAO or more advanced custom ester.  I am just sharing what I can find, NOT RECOMMENDING any oil. 

 

VAL EZ EXTENDED PROT FS 0W-20 3_5 QT 000000000000891674 United States - English.pdf

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It seems that the source of fuel makes a difference. My last UOA was all fuel from BP, this last UOA is all fuel from a local super market called Harris Teeter. That is the only thing different other than going another 5k miles almost. Going to go back to BP fuel and see if it trends back down. This was using a Wix oil filter and AMSOIL's DP530 5w-30 diesel oil. I added AMSOIL' s Diesel Injector clean with Cetane Boost to every tank. An 8oz bottle and the tank filled to the top holds 14 gallons but to the top I can get an extra 3 gallons in.

Fuel dilution and water are the best yet, which makes me think it was the quality of the fuel that messed this run up.
 

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It's not uncommon to get too much biodiesel and or gasoline in diesel fuels and no one ever knows it.  B20 is the max for this engine design.  If I am not mistaken B20 is max for production compression engines and pump fuel in US.  

 

 

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12/13/2022

2014 Chevy Cruze Diesel

112,543 total miles

9,826 on oil

AMSOIL DP530, 5w-30

Wix filter

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10,452 miles, 1,737 on oil. Pennzoil Platinum Euro 0w40 out, and new oil of the same type back in. No filter change, Purolator Boss left in place. Sample sent out. Went a little short on this one as a matter of comfort and convenience. We aren’t likely to see another 55 degree day for 2+ months. 

 

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OnTheReel Senior Enthusiast

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23 hours ago, Grumpy Bear said:

@OnTheReel will you be posting results here on on the UOA thread? 

Absolutely. Still waiting to get them back unfortunately.

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Grumpy Bear Senior Enthusiast

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195,000 Mile Service

 

1/24/2023

 

Dizzy (Unit 581)

2015 GMC Terrain

2.4 I-4 GDI

 

195,000 actual

2,503 miles this OCI (2,500 nominal) 

22.667 ounces used or .175% of fuel consumed. 

Quart in @3,500 miles.

 

4.5 quarts COSTCO Kirkland Signature 5W30

1/2 quart TRIAX S-7 (working off old stock) 

FRAM XG9018 filter (5K on last unit)

 

I decided to start using 'volume outage' to track usage instead of the dipstick hash marks. 

Marked up a new bottle into 4-ounce increments between 4 and 5 quarts. Won't be off more than an ounce. Outage plus makeup. Easy-pesy. More accurate I think. 

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OnTheReel Senior Enthusiast

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12,167 miles, 1,715 on oil. Pennzoil Platinum Euro 0w40 and Purolator Boss out. Sample being sent to TestOil. Red Line Euro 5w40 and Fram Ultra in. Tried to match interval mileage to the last one in order to hopefully eliminate some variables and follow a trend. 

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Valvomax also installed.

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Grumpy Bear Senior Enthusiast

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206,000 Mile Service

 

4/26/2023

 

Dizzy (Synthetic Advantage Unit 581)

2015 GMC Terrain

2.4 I-4 GDI

 

206,000 actual miles

2,000-mile OCI

4 ounces of make up this OCI 

 

3.75 quarts Mobil Full Synthetic High Milage 10W30

1-quart High Performance Lubricants EC-40

1 FRAM TG9018 filter

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Grumpy Bear Senior Enthusiast

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165,205 Mile Service

 

5/6/2023

 

Pepper 2015 SCSB

Ecotec 3 4.3 V6

Synthetic Advantage #391

 

3,158-mile OCI

No make up. 

 

5 Quarts Red Line HP Euro 5W30 medium SAP

1 Quart High Performance Lubricants SAE 40 EC

1 PBL22500 filter

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208,000 Mile Service

 

5/10/2023

 

Dizzy (Synthetic Advantage Unit 581)

2015 GMC Terrain

2.4 I-4 GDI

 

 

2,000-mile OCI, 1,997 mile actual

22 ounces of makeup. 

 

3.875 Quarts Shell Rotella T6 5W40 

1 Quart HPL SAE 40 EC

1 Purolator PL15436

 

Withheld 4 ounces to put it "On the Stick".

FRAM TG9018 collapsed. Just isn't enough filter area for a filter that tight. IMHO. 

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