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2022 Tiguan, 10,532 total miles, 2,293 on interval. M1 0w20 and Mann filter out, Amsoil Euro 0w20 and Fram XG11784 in. Also gave her the old Italian tune up on the interstate. Wife only drives it a few times a week, and when she does it’s never above 40 MPH. Needed to stretch it’s legs a little, methinks.

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9/3/2023

2014 Chevy Cruze Diesel 2.0

4.75qts of AMSOIL DP530 5w-30 Diesel oil

WL10021 oil filter

117,878 total miles

5,240

20% OLM

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9/10/2023

Dizzy

2014 GMC Terrain Ecotec 2.4 I-4

2,000 OCI / 73% OLM

222,000 miles on unit

3.75-quarts Shell Rotella T6 5W40

1-quart High Performance Lubricants SAE40-EC

1 Purolator PL15436 filter

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9/22/2023

Dizzy

2014 GMC Terrain Ecotec 2.4 I-4

2,000 OCI / 73% OLM

224,000 miles on unit

1 gallon Shell Rotella T6 5W40

1-quart High Performance Lubricants SAE40-EC

1 Purolator PL15436 filter

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175,000 Mile Service

 

9/29/2023

Pepper

2015 Silverado 4.3 LV3

 

175,016 actual

4,716-mile OCI

Used maybe a cup

 

5 quarts Red Line Euro 5W30

1-quart HPL SAE40-EC

FRAM XG10575

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2018 Jeep Compass @ 75,037 miles

4.5 Quarts Farm & Fleet Synthetic 0w20

1 Quart HPL SAE30-EC

Bosch 3334 filter (old stock I had on the shelf from something I probably don’t even remember owning)

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On 9/29/2023 at 10:25 PM, Grumpy Bear said:

175,000 Mile Service

 

9/29/2023

Pepper

2015 Silverado 4.3 LV3

 

175,016 actual

4,716-mile OCI

Used maybe a cup

 

5 quarts Red Line Euro 5W30

1-quart HPL SAE40-EC

FRAM XG10575

Hey Grump,

Thought I remembered you were a Purolator fan.  And I know you research the hell out of oil and filters.  Wondering about your scientific rationale on Pure Ones on SUV Dizzy, but Fram Ultras on Silverado Pepper?  Also your thoughts on the Purolator Boss?  Have you noticed any changes in your Purolators since Mann+Hummel bought them and Wix?  Thanks!

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14 hours ago, MaverickZ71 said:

Hey Grump,

Thought I remembered you were a Purolator fan.  And I know you research the hell out of oil and filters.  Wondering about your scientific rationale on Pure Ones on SUV Dizzy, but Fram Ultras on Silverado Pepper?  Also your thoughts on the Purolator Boss?  Have you noticed any changes in your Purolators since Mann+Hummel bought them and Wix?  Thanks!

 

Hi Bret: 

 

Pepper first. FRAM XG and Purolator PL are the same filter efficiency. That's a wash. The Purolator has a coil spring bypass and the FRAM a spring steel type. I like the coil better. It's point and not a range.  Anyway, I found a few FRAM XG on sale and though I'd give them a try.  I prefer the cup type wrench and the FRAM XG has a rubberized coating that make their use nearly impossible. Didn't know that when I bought it.  I also didn't care for the can. I crushed it taking it off. First time in a about 50 years I've had that happen to me. Yea, could have been me ham handing the install. We'll see when I take this last one off. Then back to Purolator PL (Pure One). 

 

BOSS is also a synthetic filter BUT it is looser than the Pure One. Let's bigger cats and dogs through. :) In a pinch and if I can't find the Pure One I'll buy them. Great build. 

 

Let's talk about Mann+Hummel then. Yes, they make both Purolator and WIX but not to the same spec as the Pure One. The WIX is also a looser filter like the BOSS or the Mobil 1. It's how they get the extra miles/time claim instead of using more filter area. WIX Platinum has a great can, seal and bypass spring set up. Instead of listing the Beta Ratios I graphed them in terms of PPM of a million remaining. This is a partial listing. BOSCH does NOT have the proper bypass setting of 22 psi. The rest on this list do. Mobil 1 is not on this list nor is the Purolator BOSS but would be about the same as the best WIX shown. K&N is a screen door filter of about 30-35 micron.

 

 

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Dizzy is an odd bird. Uses a cartridge filter (Hengst) and a very small one in fact. When I use a very efficient filter like the Pure One or XG where the can and spring do not matter, they crush internally. No one can give me the bypass setting that is built into the cap so I'm flying blind on that one. I use the Purolator Red (cheap) as it is the tightest filter I've found that will not crush in service using 5W40 oil. I could likely use the AMSOIL or Royal Purple but for 2K OCI's? Bosch if I can find them would be ideal. 

 

Anyway, hope I hit all the points you asked for. Tune me up if I missed something or the answer generates more questions as often happens. 

 

Grumpy

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48 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

 

Hi Bret: 

 

Pepper first. FRAM XG and Purolator PL are the same filter efficiency. That's a wash. The Purolator has a coil spring bypass and the FRAM a spring steel type. I like the coil better. It's point and not a range.  Anyway, I found a few FRAM XG on sale and though I'd give them a try.  I prefer the cup type wrench and the FRAM XG has a rubberized coating that make their use nearly impossible. Didn't know that when I bought it.  I also didn't care for the can. I crushed it taking it off. First time in a about 50 years I've had that happen to me. Yea, could have been me ham handing the install. We'll see when I take this last one off. Then back to Purolator PL (Pure One). 

 

BOSS is also a synthetic filter BUT it is looser than the Pure One. Let's bigger cats and dogs through. :) In a pinch and if I can't find the Pure One I'll buy them. Great build. 

 

Let's talk about Mann+Hummel then. Yes, they make both Purolator and WIX but not to the same spec as the Pure One. The WIX is also a looser filter like the BOSS or the Mobil 1. It's how they get the extra miles/time claim instead of using more filter area. WIX Platinum has a great can, seal and bypass spring set up. Instead of listing the Beta Ratios I graphed them in terms of PPM of a million remaining. This is a partial listing. BOSCH does NOT have the proper bypass setting of 22 psi. The rest on this list do. Mobil 1 is not on this list nor is the Purolator BOSS but would be about the same as the best WIX shown. K&N is a screen door filter of about 30-35 micron.

 

 

image.thumb.png.094a18cb27a727573e41ffcd51341d15.png

 

Dizzy is an odd bird. Uses a cartridge filter (Hengst) and a very small one in fact. When I use a very efficient filter like the Pure One or XG where the can and spring do not matter, they crush internally. No one can give me the bypass setting that is built into the cap so I'm flying blind on that one. I use the Purolator Red (cheap) as it is the tightest filter I've found that will not crush in service using 5W40 oil. I could likely use the AMSOIL or Royal Purple but for 2K OCI's? Bosch if I can find them would be ideal. 

 

Anyway, hope I hit all the points you asked for. Tune me up if I missed something or the answer generates more questions as often happens. 

 

Grumpy

Where did you get the chart from?  I want to read up on it some more. :)

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Ubiquity 4.3L 2015

 

04 Oct 2023

64K total miles 64% remaining 

Petrola Full synthetic 5w30

Fram filter

 

Rotated tires

lube rod ends

checked brakes

Reminded myself that I'm the only man for the job.

 

Container-ship passing under the Verrazzano-Narrows Bridge a month or so in the past.  Parts for GM? 

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3 hours ago, Grumpy Bear said:

 

Hi Bret: 

 

Pepper first. FRAM XG and Purolator PL are the same filter efficiency. That's a wash. The Purolator has a coil spring bypass and the FRAM a spring steel type. I like the coil better. It's point and not a range.  Anyway, I found a few FRAM XG on sale and though I'd give them a try.  I prefer the cup type wrench and the FRAM XG has a rubberized coating that make their use nearly impossible. Didn't know that when I bought it.  I also didn't care for the can. I crushed it taking it off. First time in a about 50 years I've had that happen to me. Yea, could have been me ham handing the install. We'll see when I take this last one off. Then back to Purolator PL (Pure One). 

 

 

I’ve used the Fram Ultra almost exclusively for the last 10+ years. The cup wrenches take a little tap to get seated but work fine. The cans are definitely thinner than most other brands but I’ve never crushed one. I’d like a coil spring more, but on the flip side the Fram media is nicer IMO. Still wire-backed synthetic in my application(s). I have read that they’ve started using a more conventional blended media in some applications, but I digress. Probably a toss up between them overall.
 

My perfect filter would be something built like the Boss but with efficiency of the Ultra. The Boss could probably double as an anvil it’s so overbuilt.

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4 hours ago, Black02Silverado said:

Where did you get the chart from?  I want to read up on it some more. :)

 

I constructed it from Beta Ratio information I gathered and converted to ppm. Straight forward math. Some I asked for and received. Some from advertising and/or marketing campaigns. Some just publish those numbers on their sites like Royal Purple, WIX and FRAM for example. Bosch has it in a catalogue as does WIX. Purolator gave me the entire test results upon request. K&N hides nothing. They boast flow over efficiency as more important. Mobil 1 and some others put it on the box in really tiny print. 

 

I know, I know. "But that was yesterday" is the refrain. What about today? 

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