Coronavirus

OnTheReel · July 20, 2020

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/508059-british-pharmaceutical-says-small-coronavirus-trial-signals-possible-major

Some really great news for once. Small trial, still early, but it seems promising and definitely worthy of a fast track study to get it out in wider circulation.

Effective treatments are better than a vaccine as far as I’m concerned. They wouldn’t rely on the logistics of vaccines, or the personal opinions of people on vaccines. You’d only be applying the treatments to those who need it, as they need it, so the number of “doses” required would be far less than that of the vaccines.

Once available, reserve the vaccines for higher risk people and persons working with the public. The general population, younger, healthy people wouldn’t necessarily need to be vaccinated if there’s a few different viable treatments for them in the unlikely event that they develop complications. Eventually we would reach something of herd immunity and hopefully put the masks away. Doesn’t hurt to be optimistic I guess.

Grumpy Bear · July 21, 2020

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/20/who-applauds-oxford-coronavirus-vaccine-data-it-is-good-news.html

How about something upbeat?

Grumpy Bear · July 21, 2020

https://www.businessinsider.com/nearly-50-florida-hospitals-run-out-of-icu-beds-2020-7

Talk about a timely write up.

CamGTP · July 21, 2020

It's poor reporting when they fail to say how many ICU beds some of these hospitals even have. Why take the time to write this when you can't even provide the information people want to know.

What if some of these places only had a handful of beds in total, it surely doesn't take long to fill them up if that is the case. These types of articles are what some people will read and just start to freak out because it's made to sound like it's the end of the world.

Edited July 21, 2020 by CamGTP

davester · July 21, 2020

Does it matter how many beds? Hospitals are generally planned to have a certain number of icu beds, enough to handle the cases they get for where the hospital is (population around it, as well as other hospitals in the area).

When the ICU beds run out, it means all new patients needing an ICU bed (whether or not it's covid related, so it affects everyone needing one) are worse off. They get a cobbled together icu bed there, or need to be transported further away to get one.

You can say it's no big deal, but it can make the difference between someone living or dying.

But I'm sure all those hospitals just filled up their icu wards by committing medicare fraud, as they probably don't even have covid-19. And they'll just murder the patients after a couple weeks to add to the death stats. Just to make Trump look bad.

Grumpy Bear · July 21, 2020

7 hours ago, davester said:

Does it matter how many beds? Hospitals are generally planned to have a certain number of icu beds, enough to handle the cases they get for where the hospital is (population around it, as well as other hospitals in the area).

When the ICU beds run out, it means all new patients needing an ICU bed (whether or not it's covid related, so it affects everyone needing one) are worse off. They get a cobbled together icu bed there, or need to be transported further away to get one.

You can say it's no big deal, but it can make the difference between someone living or dying.

But I'm sure all those hospitals just filled up their icu wards by committing medicare fraud, as they probably don't even have covid-19. And they'll just murder the patients after a couple weeks to add to the death stats. Just to make Trump look bad.

What Dave said minus the sarcasm.

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/lists/50-largest-hospitals-in-america.html

3 of the10 largest hospitals in the US are in Florida. 2 in Texas and 2 in NY. So 70% in the places hardest hit. Some these have 60 bed + ICU's and were the ones run to overflow (NYC). Little podunk counties like DeWitt Illinois have but 2. The whole hospital is only 25 beds. But they only have a population of 15 K not several million like the markets for these huge hospitals. Again common sense is needed.

The Zip · July 21, 2020

26 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

What Dave said minus the sarcasm.

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/lists/50-largest-hospitals-in-america.html

3 of the10 largest hospitals in the US are in Florida. 2 in Texas and 2 in NY. So 70% in the places hardest hit. Some these have 60 bed + ICU's and were the ones run to overflow (NYC). Little podunk counties like DeWitt Illinois have but 2. The whole hospital is only 25 beds. But they only have a population of 15 K not several million like the markets for these huge hospitals. Again common sense is needed.

Yeah most articles today appear to be paraphrased and you have to read between the lines or say hello to Google to fill in the gaps. Your article listed the largest, I read an article that listed the most, which is a benefit during this current rise. Texas, California, and Florida in that order. The beauty of Google.

KARNUT · July 21, 2020

I look at the dashboards daily. Most all are trending down. My local Houston news states the same. This was expected. We’ll probably tend down for a few weeks and then trend back up some as restrictions ease all predictable.

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CamGTP · July 21, 2020

No, in reality the number of beds doesn't really matter. That's not really the point of what I was trying to get across. The piece just never gets into detail about more of it as it only lists a a few counties and how many places but doesn't expand on that to show where more are. That is the information I feel that they should include more of.

Grumpy Bear · July 22, 2020

Couple of days before the 4th of July I said I was watching down the road a couple of weeks. Results of all those party animals spitting on each other blowing off fireworks and all.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/21/covid-live-updates-us/

Humans are predictable and the virus keeps good time.

CamGTP · July 22, 2020

It's summer and not just the 4th of July. People aren't letting stuff stop them from having a good time and I don't blame them.

Donstar · July 22, 2020

27 minutes ago, CamGTP said:

It's summer and not just the 4th of July. People aren't letting stuff stop them from having a good time and I don't blame them.

No useful value in casting blame but we need to do a better job of convincing others how to enjoy the summer in a safe manner, respectful of others. Safe behaviors requires minimal effort for the reward.