Covid19 Spare time

[Donstar]

People who have experienced Covid first hand are all around.  I once feared to receive a positive test but time and experience has taken away much of this anxiety.   We were recently invited to a family member's home at the same time they were telling us that a household family member just tested positive.  We declined our invitation which was met with a response about restrictions being lifted.  We all know what common sense is and I find it fascinating how we have such a diversity in what is common!   

[KARNUT]

I definitely at this point wouldn’t go to a person house who tested positive. I had Covid and two weeks later got a cold. Usually people who have colds without a fever still mingle. I know where I got Covid and my cold. As time passes hopefully Covid will be reduced to cold like. It’s a good time to work on therapeutics. Cold medication made my cold symptoms very mild.

[diyer2]

We know a husband and wife who refused to vaccinated. The wife got covid. The husband took care of her and never got sick. Then they both got vaccinated. The wife got covid again. Symptoms were less. Now neither will get the booster. We bite our tongues about their choices.  

[KARNUT]

1 minute ago, diyer2 said:

We know a husband and wife who refused to vaccinated. The wife got covid. The husband took care of her and never got sick. Then they both got vaccinated. The wife got covid again. Symptoms were less. Now neither will get the booster. We bite our tongues about their choices.  

I got the shots my wife didn’t. We both got Covid the week after Christmas. It hit me harder, hardly life threatening. None of our guests got it that were at my house prior ranging the 20s to 83. We cooked and served dinner for two days. Around 20 people total.  All were vaccinated except my wife. None boosted. Not making judgment, just the facts  on how we’ve been affected.

[shakenfake]

Uncle has had it twice now. Got both shots and then got it hardcore, pneumonia and brain fog for a few months, could barely do anything. He just got over it again a couple weeks ago. Has had all three shots.

[Grumpy Bear]

On 2/22/2022 at 9:55 AM, Donstar said:

People who have experienced Covid first hand are all around.  I once feared to receive a positive test but time and experience has taken away much of this anxiety.   We were recently invited to a family member's home at the same time they were telling us that a household family member just tested positive.  We declined our invitation which was met with a response about restrictions being lifted.  We all know what common sense is and I find it fascinating how we have such a diversity in what is common!   

 

If you please I have a thought on that  Yea, who knew, right? 

 

Common sense is a sensibility shared in common. Oxford says this about Sensibility: 

 

the ability to appreciate and respond to complex emotional or aesthetic influences; sensitivity.

 

Common rendered before sense, by extension, would assume we shared a common experience as a group. More to the point we shared those experiences than shape our response identically and thus are likely to respond identically AND sensitively. 

 

Anyone with more than one child knows this is never true. I have six and each responds differently to the same situation. Oh there are commonalities naturally. We all put on a wrap when it's cold, common sense, but they all process the more complex such as death or the fear of it uniquely. Some not so sensitive. Lack of bed side manors. 

 

The experience in this case is unavoidable. It's global. We will share it together but we do share it differently. Much differently. And kiddos there is a math model for that concerning distribution you would care nothing about nor would the majority find it remotely interesting.

 

Most of the difference that shape our response has more to do with the differences in the way we met it. The way we met the virus has shaped how it 'acted out on/in each persons" field of view. Changing the observation, Changing the conclusions drawn. Changing the experience from something common to something other and it is THIS that brings the pain.  We puzzle over the difference in reactions of others when met by the same stranger. 

 

Common sense? More like common experience. Viewed through the kaleidoscope of being unique to our vantage point.

 

 

Edited February 23, 2022 by Grumpy Bear
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[txab]

Don't think I've already mentioned this.... in my spare time, I broke down and bought a pellet grill. Liking it so far. It won't totally replace my charcoal grill though.

 

The pellet is a quicker startup. Just turn the dial to set temp and everything gets going. Controls temps well.

[Grumpy Bear]

3 hours ago, txab said:

Don't think I've already mentioned this.... in my spare time, I broke down and bought a pellet grill. Liking it so far. It won't totally replace my charcoal grill though.

 

The pellet is a quicker startup. Just turn the dial to set temp and everything gets going. Controls temps well.

 

Hum. I've seen pellet stoves but not grills. I live in a remote corner of earth.  

[customboss]

4 hours ago, Grumpy Bear said:

 

If you please I have a thought on that  Yea, who knew, right? 

 

Common sense is a sensibility shared in common. Oxford says this about Sensibility: 

 

the ability to appreciate and respond to complex emotional or aesthetic influences; sensitivity.

 

Common rendered before sense, by extension, would assume we shared a common experience as a group. More to the point we shared those experiences than shape our response identically and thus are likely to respond identically AND sensitively. 

 

Anyone with more than one child knows this is never true. I have six and each responds differently to the same situation. Oh there are commonalities naturally. We all put on a wrap when it's cold, common sense, but they all process the more complex such as death or the fear of it uniquely. Some not so sensitive. Lack of bed side manors. 

 

The experience in this case is unavoidable. It's global. We will share it together but we do share it differently. Much differently. And kiddos there is a math model for that concerning distribution you would care nothing about nor would the majority find it remotely interesting.

 

Most of the difference that shape our response has more to do with the differences in the way we met it. The way we met the virus has shaped how it 'acted out on each person" field of view. Changing the observation, Changing the conclusions drawn. Changing the experience from something common to something other and it is THIS that brings the pain.  We puzzle over the difference in reactions of others when met by the same stranger. 

 

Common sense? More like common experience. Viewed through the kaleidoscope of being unique to our vantage point.

 

 

THIS : " And kiddos there is a math model for that concerning distribution you would care nothing about nor would the majority find it remotely interesting." 

[txab]

 

32 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

 

Hum. I've seen pellet stoves but not grills. I live in a remote corner of earth.  

Pellet grills are all the rage nowadays it seems. Bunch of brands out there. Not uncommon to see models @ $1000 or so. Mine looks more like a gas grill from the outside. Picked it up at Wally on clearance for $199, regularly around $500, I think. That was my limit to spend on one since I've got a perfectly good charcoal burner. So, I'm trying it out. Bags of pellets aren't all that bad. You can catch them on sale @ $.50 per pound or less. All kinds of brands/flavors out there. I was already into smoking, but my smoker was almost a little too small at times, so this pellet grill can take over the smoking jobs. temperature control is like cooking in an oven.

 

Yeah it says Cuisinart on it, but it's made here in Texas by a company that produces a lot of cooking equip

 

 

 

Edited February 23, 2022 by txab

[Donstar]

20 hours ago, Grumpy Bear said:

 

If you please I have a thought on that  Yea, who knew, right? 

Common sense? More like common experience. Viewed through the kaleidoscope of being unique to our vantage point. 

I thought of you when I wrote it and I would've been upset if you didn't respond!   I really enjoyed your common experience viewed through a kaleidoscope imagery.  My wife and I had very similar childhoods and have lived together for almost 50 years.  These past two years have often found us talking about our shared experiences in subterranean levels.  I have surprised myself on many occasions how our interpretation of events differ.  We're usually good on describing the situation but what was learned can be quite different!   

[Grumpy Bear]

21 hours ago, Donstar said:

We're usually good on describing the situation but what was learned can be quite different!   

 

Our personal paradigm is the lens we filter information through  and it colors our response as each persons is different. 

 

Math and science on the other hand are the paradigms agreed to by all so that we all come to the same conclusion. Handy, don't you think when  your counting change or sending someone to the moon.

 

Not as handy when it gets in the way of personal agendas that contradict it.

 

At that point it becomes more like medical insurance programs. Deny, deny, deny until they die. 

[Donstar]

3 hours ago, Grumpy Bear said:

Math and science on the other hand are the paradigms agreed to by all so that we all come to the same conclusion.

Yesterday two neighbors were on the sidewalk outside my house arguing covid stuff.   They were on opposite sides of the popular arguments and both using their own Math and Science to support their opinions.   One would shoot down one person's Science with a contrary example.  I laughed because this is sort of like a strategy I use when arguing with my wife.  If she says, "you never" or "you always", I retort with a contrary example.  It actually sounds quite silly when you hear others defending themselves in this manner.  

[customboss]

When facts became arguable well thats what 1984 was warning about.  Internet and uninformed a perfect combination.  

How Putin is justifying his attack on democratic nations. Lazy uninformed are manipulated by powerful and greedy. Rinse repeat unless you collectively call BS on it all.  

 

Add in grey to black and white and most are lost.  Until they are the oppressed. 

[KARNUT]

1 hour ago, customboss said:

When facts became arguable well thats what 1984 was warning about.  Internet and uninformed a perfect combination.  

How Putin is justifying his attack on democratic nations. Lazy uninformed are manipulated by powerful and greedy. Rinse repeat unless you collectively call BS on it all.  

 

Add in grey to black and white and most are lost.  Until they are the oppressed. 

I can really see both sides on this. I can’t see the justification with an invasion, but. They got rid of their nukes with a promise of protecting. Everything would have been fine until the talk of them joining nato. I can understand Putin being pissed, there’re on the border after all. Kinda like nukes In Cuba. As far as them being a democracy, well almost. Border protection. We had an invasion of 2 million last year. I’m more concern about that. It’s a mess. We would have had a bigger stick if one. We still exported oil like a year ago. Two the afghan screw up didn’t happen. I hope we last the next three years. China going to move next. What a mess. Not to mention I’m down about 50K in my Ira. I’m glad I’m diversified.