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I'm gonna install an oil filter relocation on my 2019 Yukon 5.3L. I bought a dual filter mount that will hold 2 oil filters. 
Ready for the silly ass Question?
1. can I use any oil filter (I prefer bigger filters) or do I have to use the prescribed oil filter? 
Seems to me oil pressure is oil pressure and any filter will do, Am I incorrect?
2. Is AN-8 braided lines big enough?

 

Thx for any help

jd

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Black02Silverado Senior Enthusiast

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Are both of the filters full flow? I know some install a dual filter set up with one being a full flow filter and the other is a by-pass filter.  If both are full flow what is shown will be fine.  No need to go bigger.  What brand filters are those?  You might want to change to a different brand  that has better filtration on a lower micron level.  Any questions for the most part on install you can contact the manufacture of the dual filter kit.  That will also add to your total capacity and I would prefill each filter before you install it to keep oil flow going as much as possible.

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Just to add some better flowing characteristics, I would use a dremel and soften the 90° and sharp corners on the filter housings. MAKE SURE TO CLEAN THEM VERY WELL AFTER.

 

For the filter stuff I don't have enough knowledge to help.

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Grumpy Bear Senior Enthusiast

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In response to your PM: 

 

I expect you don't know this. Mobil gets 20,000 miles out of that filter series by letting dogs and cats through. Somewhere on the box in fine print, get out your magnifier, that 99.9% efficiency is referenced to 30 micron. The ISO  4548-12 standard is 20 micron. 

 

The GM wear test standard is a Beta Ratio of 75 or 98.7% but the reason is to find the smallest size that can be filtered with the efficiency or Beta Ratio as the reference. Then it's apples to apples. So how does the Mobil 1 do at a Beta of 75? 25 micron. 

 

In this forum go to and read Motor Oil / Filtration / 4 for the quick information then the other filtration post, #3 is an eyeopener for the nuts and bolts.

 

 

I spent some hours on your current question last night to hand you the best possible solution but it's you truck. I'm just offering INFORMATION....which is different from opinion...isn't it? :P

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i think -8 is probly correct size for oil line, used quality line from NAPA spend the $$$

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3 hours ago, Black02Silverado said:

Are both of the filters full flow? I know some install a dual filter set up with one being a full flow filter and the other is a by-pass filter.  If both are full flow what is shown will be fine.  No need to go bigger.  What brand filters are those?  You might want to change to a different brand  that has better filtration on a lower micron level.  Any questions for the most part on install you can contact the manufacture of the dual filter kit.  That will also add to your total capacity and I would prefill each filter before you install it to keep oil flow going as much as possible.

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3 hours ago, Grumpy Bear said:

In response to your PM: 

 

I expect you don't know this. Mobil gets 20,000 miles out of that filter series by letting dogs and cats through. Somewhere on the box in fine print, get out your magnifier, that 99.9% efficiency is referenced to 30 micron. The ISO  4548-12 standard is 20 micron. 

 

The GM wear test standard is a Beta Ratio of 75 or 98.7% but the reason is to find the smallest size that can be filtered with the efficiency or Beta Ratio as the reference. Then it's apples to apples. So how does the Mobil 1 do at a Beta of 75? 25 micron. 

 

In this forum go to and read Motor Oil / Filtration / 4 for the quick information then the other filtration post, #3 is an eyeopener for the nuts and bolts.

 

 

I spent some hours on your current question last night to hand you the best possible solution but it's you truck. I'm just offering INFORMATION....which is different from opinion...isn't it? :P

So Grumpy Bear what filter do u use on you vehicle would be a better question.  I 8th grade English for us football players.......")

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3 hours ago, Black02Silverado said:

Are both of the filters full flow? I know some install a dual filter set up with one being a full flow filter and the other is a by-pass filter.  If both are full flow what is shown will be fine.  No need to go bigger.  What brand filters are those?  You might want to change to a different brand  that has better filtration on a lower micron level.  Any questions for the most part on install you can contact the manufacture of the dual filter kit.  That will also add to your total capacity and I would prefill each filter before you install it to keep oil flow going as much as possible.

yes full flow.  They will be going back, glad I saved the boxes.  According to GrumpyBear, who I trust says the filtration is not the best on MOBIL1 filters.  Waiting on GrumpyBear to answer one more question.

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37 minutes ago, TxVet33 said:

yes full flow.  They will be going back, glad I saved the boxes.  According to GrumpyBear, who I trust says the filtration is not the best on MOBIL1 filters.  Waiting on GrumpyBear to answer one more question.

OK, the replacement for that Mobil 1 filter in an AMSOIL filter is the EaO34.

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Grumpy Bear Senior Enthusiast

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2 hours ago, TxVet33 said:

So Grumpy Bear what filter do u use on you vehicle would be a better question.  I 8th grade English for us football players.......")

Purolator Pure One PL22500. Are you reading the post I directed you to? 

 

You don't have to 8T6 your project. The number I gave you will work just fine as will the one Nick gave you. 

 

Here's a question I should have asked first. What is the purpose of your project? What do you want from it? 

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5 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

Purolator Pure One PL22500. Are you reading the post I directed you to? 

 

You don't have to 8T6 your project. The number I gave you will work just fine as will the one Nick gave you. 

 

Here's a question I should have asked first. What is the purpose of your project? What do you want from it? 

I'm 64, I've had 6 lumbar surgeries and don't get around like I used to. I did this mod to all my RAMS too.  Only I did it w/o asking anyone.  I'm tired of paying someone to do my oil changes. I'm tired of getting brake cleaner to clean under my oil filter and cross member. I'm sick and tired of cleaning my garage floor from lazy people working in the pit.  I'm gonna move the filters over to the driver side, just inside side steps so I can easily change "my" oil myself.  Plus I'm bored out of my gored and like working on my vehicles.  

I really appreciate all the help.  I apologize for asking you guys, I just should have done, like on my RAMS (4 new ones over 15 years).  I won't bother u guys again.

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32 minutes ago, TxVet33 said:

I'm 64, I've had 6 lumbar surgeries and don't get around like I used to. I did this mod to all my RAMS too.  Only I did it w/o asking anyone.  I'm tired of paying someone to do my oil changes. I'm tired of getting brake cleaner to clean under my oil filter and cross member. I'm sick and tired of cleaning my garage floor from lazy people working in the pit.  I'm gonna move the filters over to the driver side, just inside side steps so I can easily change "my" oil myself.  Plus I'm bored out of my gored and like working on my vehicles.  

I really appreciate all the help.  I apologize for asking you guys, I just should have done, like on my RAMS (4 new ones over 15 years).  I won't bother u guys again.

MAGA-KAG 11b

Your not bothering anyone. I wanted to make sure I was giving you the help you were actually looking to receive. Some are shy and just don't know what to ask or what information to supply. I just needed some clarity. 

 

A duel mount has advantages and some disadvantages. Higher flow for parallel systems lower the amount of time the system in in bypass with cold oil in the winter. This also makes lower relief valve settings plausible. Doubles the dirt holding capacity making it possible to run filters longer. Your can run tighter filters, to the same pressure drop as a single looser filter making better filtration possible. Which by the way is were I 'thought' you might be going. Why I asked about your plan/goal/expected results. As it turns out I was wrong. Trading as often as you do the added vehicle life would be wasted on your intentions. It's good to ask. That's the good stuff. 

 

But it also increases the amount of time it takes to heat the system up to normal operating temperature. If your normal drives are not long enough added capacity increases moister and fuel dilution. Why? Never gets warm enough long enough to boil it off. Cost is higher if materials is your only measure of cost.  

 

 

Ask anyone here, I'm an acquired taste. Meant no disrespect. 67 and a trashed back myself. Understanding what your looking to do...have at it as you planned. Those Mobil 1's will give you 200K  engine life but I still wouldn't run them a year or 20K miles. 10K tops in pairs. 5K as a single. IMHO.  

 

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1 hour ago, Grumpy Bear said:

Your not bothering anyone. I wanted to make sure I was giving you the help you were actually looking to receive. Some are shy and just don't know what to ask or what information to supply. I just needed some clarity. 

 

A duel mount has advantages and some disadvantages. Higher flow for parallel systems lower the amount of time the system in in bypass with cold oil in the winter. This also makes lower relief valve settings plausible. Doubles the dirt holding capacity making it possible to run filters longer. Your can run tighter filters, to the same pressure drop as a single looser filter making better filtration possible. Which by the way is were I 'thought' you might be going. Why I asked about your plan/goal/expected results. As it turns out I was wrong. Trading as often as you do the added vehicle life would be wasted on your intentions. It's good to ask. That's the good stuff. 

 

But it also increases the amount of time it takes to heat the system up to normal operating temperature. If your normal drives are not long enough added capacity increases moister and fuel dilution. Why? Never gets warm enough long enough to boil it off. Cost is higher if materials is your only measure of cost.  

 

 

Ask anyone here, I'm an acquired taste. Meant no disrespect. 67 and a trashed back myself. Understanding what your looking to do...have at it as you planned. Those Mobil 1's will give you 200K  engine life but I still wouldn't run them a year or 20K miles. 10K tops in pairs. 5K as a single. IMHO.  

 

None taken GBear!, After reading your last missive, I guess my next mod, which was an extra engine oil cooler coming off the other end of the bracket is a no-go.  Here in Abilene, TX the summers get into the 110-115 degree a lot. So I was gonna cool the engine even more.  Guess I'll put that oil cooler on the Trany.....  Anyway, Y'all stay safe, trouble is on the horizon if U been keeping up with the pols lately.  PQTUS will straighten them out.  

Purolator Pure One PL22500 or AMSOIL filter EaO34, decisions decisions.....   ")

I'll post pictures after the Mod, maybe a couple of days, Friday supposed to get up to 60 during the day.

I'm out

jd

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Black02Silverado Senior Enthusiast

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If you don't have a source for the AMSOIL filter let me know.  I can send a quote for two delivered to your door.  Sounds like a great project.  :)

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