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2021 Silverado 5.2 with 10k miles.Couple weeks ago heard the popping/ticking sound on start up and dealer confirmed the collapsed lifter(s).

 

Since GM won’t issue a recall but is having all dealers swap out the parts before selling new ones, parts aren’t available and my trucks already been in the shop for 2 weeks. I’m pissed and given the inflated cost of trucks right now thinking about just selling the truck back.

 

I’ve always thought my truck shifted a bit badly at low gears, but unsure if related. Dunno if the lifters suddenly failed or if I’ve had some unknown issues all 10k miles.
 

Could i be facing long term engine issues due to this? would i be better off getting out from under a potential lemon now? Or am i over-reacting?

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1 minute ago, khays said:

2021 Silverado 5.2 with 10k miles.Couple weeks ago heard the popping/ticking sound on start up and dealer confirmed the collapsed lifter(s).

 

Since GM won’t issue a recall but is having all dealers swap out the parts before selling new ones, parts aren’t available and my trucks already been in the shop for 2 weeks. I’m pissed and given the inflated cost of trucks right now thinking about just selling the truck back.

 

I’ve always thought my truck shifted a bit badly at low gears, but unsure if related. Dunno if the lifters suddenly failed or if I’ve had some unknown issues all 10k miles.
 

Could i be facing long term engine issues due to this? would i be better off getting out from under a potential lemon now? Or am i over-reacting?

Huh one more lifter issue tread? Looks like at list  one a day, but some people on here say GM have no big problem with lifters on their v8 engines….. 

dieselfan1 Senior Enthusiast

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1 minute ago, Saso said:

Huh one more lifter issue tread? Looks like at list  one a day, but some people on here say GM have no big problem with lifters on their v8 engines….. 

That's because there's a new thread for every truck that has failure. Let it go already.

 

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TNTSierra Senior Enthusiast

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That’s why you couldn’t have paid me to buy a new truck during the so called “pandemic”. March of 2020 to late 2021.  Too many variables were going on during that time. My 2019 Silverado has been flawless and stepdads 2020 Sierra he bought in September of 2019 has been the same. He was a die hard Ford guy till he realized they are cheap rattle cans and their Ecobust’s don’t live up to their so called MPGs. 
 

There are still a few variables out there right now that tells me and others in my family to just be patient. He wants another Sierra but a Denali, told him wait it out one  year or more!  Then those “variables” will correct themselves. 

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9 minutes ago, TNTSilverado said:

That’s why you couldn’t have paid me to buy a new truck during the so called “pandemic”. March of 2020 to late 2021.  Too many variables were going on during that time. My 2019 Silverado has been flawless and stepdads 2020 Sierra he bought in September of 2019 has been the same. He was a die hard Ford guy till he realized they are cheap rattle cans and their Ecobust’s don’t live up to their so called MPGs. 
 

There are still a few variables out there right now that tells me and others in my family to just be patient. He wants another Sierra but a Denali, told him wait it out one  year or more!  Then those “variables” will correct themselves. 

Come on guys, give him a break.  There are no instructions on this site where to put your comments or start a new thread until one of you whinny little girls spout off.  GM has known about this lifter and cam issues since the 1970's and not done much to fix it.  When you take a new vehicle to the dealer you expect them as the so called "experts" to fix it in a timely manner.  I know many folks that the dealer only changed the bad lifter.  For the cost of lifters verses the cost of labor why would anyone only change one lifter.  Now with the government made supply chain issues, who knows when you will get parts or your vehicle back.  I worked for GM and still drive primarily GM vehicles but like all manufacturers cost overrides quality.  Ford and Ram are no better or worse.  I would not even comment on this but this is a known problem that has not been fixed and it needs to or maybe there needs to be a class action law suit?

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5 hours ago, fatwhiteboy said:

Come on guys, give him a break.  There are no instructions on this site where to put your comments or start a new thread until one of you whinny little girls spout off.  GM has known about this lifter and cam issues since the 1970's and not done much to fix it.  When you take a new vehicle to the dealer you expect them as the so called "experts" to fix it in a timely manner.  I know many folks that the dealer only changed the bad lifter.  For the cost of lifters verses the cost of labor why would anyone only change one lifter.  Now with the government made supply chain issues, who knows when you will get parts or your vehicle back.  I worked for GM and still drive primarily GM vehicles but like all manufacturers cost overrides quality.  Ford and Ram are no better or worse.  I would not even comment on this but this is a known problem that has not been fixed and it needs to or maybe there needs to be a class action law suit?

Whiny little girls???  This coming from a guy whose avatar is fatwhiteboy!!  LMFAO

 

I was just stating facts that my truck and stepdads truck has been flawless. My other 5 GM trucks also never had engine issue.  Hell my 97 C/K had 262k miles in it when I sold it back in 2019. And I stated a lot of the problems with this lifter issue started during the so called pandemic. The other major lifter issues was clear back in 2007-early 2009 when GM was first introducing AFM.  Those years they had huge oil

consumption issues and lifter failures. After those years it was few in-between.  

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if it just happened youll be ok. Just hope they change all 16.

 

The damage would come from longterm use and metal pieces hypothetically getting pushed through motor. I had a motor with four wiped cam lobes ran for a few thousand miles, rebuilt and ran fine. No oil pressure issues, etc. 

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6 hours ago, lpg said:

if it just happened youll be ok. Just hope they change all 16.

 

The damage would come from longterm use and metal pieces hypothetically getting pushed through motor. I had a motor with four wiped cam lobes ran for a few thousand miles, rebuilt and ran fine. No oil pressure issues, etc. 

if it has 10k miles he will only get failed bank of 8. Yeah like you said not much to worry about

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On 4/23/2022 at 4:43 PM, khays said:

2021 Silverado 5.2 with 10k miles.Couple weeks ago heard the popping/ticking sound on start up and dealer confirmed the collapsed lifter(s).

 

Since GM won’t issue a recall but is having all dealers swap out the parts before selling new ones, parts aren’t available and my trucks already been in the shop for 2 weeks. I’m pissed and given the inflated cost of trucks right now thinking about just selling the truck back.

 

I’ve always thought my truck shifted a bit badly at low gears, but unsure if related. Dunno if the lifters suddenly failed or if I’ve had some unknown issues all 10k miles.
 

Could i be facing long term engine issues due to this? would i be better off getting out from under a potential lemon now? Or am i over-reacting?

My dad just had the same thing happen to his except at 15k miles. His is a January 2021 build. He has lost faith in his truck over it. Dealer will only replace one bank. Mine is a 2021 (October 2020 build). Fingers crossed mine doesn’t have any issues. 

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