2027 GMC Sierra: Official Discussion

[Jsdirt]

15 hours ago, Atlas said:

 

You're right, I can't argue with someone who thinks an '86 Grandma Keith is the pinnacle of reliability and engineering. You may want to seek a mental health referral, however.

 

The difference between you and I, I think, is I don't have to depend on old vehicles. That really changes one's perception. Newer vehicles also take more knowledge and skill to work on, absolutely. Some people keep up with that, other's can't. YMMV.

Let me know how your vehicles do in 10 years. You don't know ******, kid.  

 

There's a reason that Panther platform was used as police, fire, and taxi service for DECADES ... long before you were born, apparently.

[Jsdirt]

18 hours ago, Jus Cruisin said:

I was the GM of a Lincoln Mercury dealership back in the 80's. The service lot was always full with "broken" ones. Plenty of transmissions, power windows and a/c repairs. The only one I'd consider owning would be the Marauder at this point and it certainly wouldn't be a daily driver. 

 

I was around and remember that era very well, so I'm calling b/s on that statement. If they were that bad no police department or taxi company would've bought a single one ... but they were used in both services (and fire) for DECADES. They were bulletproof and proven. Even the early 21st century ones weren't too bad! The early models were legendary.

 

Mine is proof, but people like atlas are blinded by agenda and refuse to believe facts right before their very eyes.

 

Even decades after they were built, a new generation started driving them, posting all their builds and shenanigans on Grandmarq.net and Crownvic.net. The failures would show up then, since they all were deep past 100k-150k miles by that point, and younger drivers tend to be a little aggressive, especially with vehicles than can lay a one-tire fire for as long as you hold your foot in it. They've more than proven themselves over the decades.

 

The only thing that'll really take them out is road salt. The bodies and sheet metal were garbage. A victim of the cheapout FoMoCo and GM have been partaking in before then, and since.

 

Today it's the stuff that counts - the undercarriage that rots away first! 

 

GMs Caprice was no slouch either. Reliable as a stone ax - the opposite of what they build now.

 

 

Edited 13 hours ago by Jsdirt

[KARNUT]

4 hours ago, Jsdirt said:

Let me know how your vehicles do in 10 years. You don't know ******, kid.  

 

There's a reason that Panther platform was used as police, fire, and taxi service for DECADES ... long before you were born, apparently.

It really is comical when people don’t agree or see the reason some people prefer the older vehicles. They become condescending. All the while they may be busting their knuckles on old vehicles. I have found memories of swapping out engines in my old GM cars in a weekend without much hassle. Unlike today. One wrong move a computer will shut you down. Even on something as easy as a brake job. There’s a pretty comical YouTuber called the car wizard. A garage owner who puts it all in perspective. Another Vicegrip garage that’s shows just how tough the old stuff is. 

[Atlas]

5 hours ago, Jsdirt said:

Let me know how your vehicles do in 10 years. You don't know ******, kid.  

 

There's a reason that Panther platform was used as police, fire, and taxi service for DECADES ... long before you were born, apparently.

 

You refuse to own anything made in this century yet you reportedly own... a 2007 Silverado, which is now almost 20 years old. The dissonance.... turn up your hearing aid?

 

You clearly don't understand the government contracting process, brother. We send people to die on front lines, keep the public safe, and make people's husbands, wives, children enter burning buildings with equipment from .....wait for it.....

 

...the lowest bidder....

 

Just because something is used for a long time doesn't mean it's good. But it might be cheap and plentiful.

 

Please, continue to whine about new trucks in a thread dedicated to new trucks, which you've said you'll never own. We get it. Go tell everyone how you're stuck in time on a Panther forum. I mean, Jesus, an 86 isn't even one of the good Panthers.

[Atlas]

1 hour ago, KARNUT said:

It really is comical when people don’t agree or see the reason some people prefer the older vehicles. They become condescending. All the while they may be busting their knuckles on old vehicles. I have found memories of swapping out engines in my old GM cars in a weekend without much hassle. Unlike today. One wrong move a computer will shut you down. Even on something as easy as a brake job. There’s a pretty comical YouTuber called the car wizard. A garage owner who puts it all in perspective. Another Vicegrip garage that’s shows just how tough the old stuff is. 

 

Yes, you must have seen my thread on the Blazer. HOT GARBAGE, but I love them anyway. I'm convinced every car guy has a soft sport for an S/T series somewheres. Probably even a Panther too, if I'm being an honest car guy. That doesn't mean they aren't junk. And they definitely don't get better with age. I sometimes play with old cars, but that's by choice. I don't rely on them and they aren't my everyday fleet.

 

Derek plays the common man on Youtube and that's no doubt where he started. Now he has Youtube money (and Motortrend, etc). You think his crews and his wife ride around in old beaters when they're chasing him and his wrecks across the country? No he's got newer and nicer stuff for that, you'll see glimpses of it in the footage.

[KARNUT]

4 minutes ago, Atlas said:

 

Yes, you must have seen my thread on the Blazer. HOT GARBAGE, but I love them anyway. I'm convinced every car guy has a soft sport for an S/T series somewheres. Probably even a Panther too, if I'm being an honest car guy. That doesn't mean they aren't junk. And they definitely don't get better with age. I sometimes play with old cars, but that's by choice. I don't rely on them and they aren't my everyday fleet.

 

Derek plays the common man on Youtube and that's no doubt where he started. Now he has Youtube money (and Motortrend, etc). You think his crews and his wife ride around in old beaters when they're chasing him and his wrecks across the country? No he's got newer and nicer stuff for that, you'll see glimpses of it in the footage.

He has his dad’s newer truck he’s put away. He has several old cars he rotates between him and his family. I’ve seen a restored square body and a SS Chevy truck he’s sometimes drives. He did raffle off a new suburban recently. As much as he is watched if he drove new stuff as a rule we’d know it. It would be fine by me. I don’t care what people prefer. I got one more new one in me. I’d rather my wife get one. I can’t get her out of the Genesis. Don’t tell anyone. I want her to get an electric truck. I want to put a generator in the back. Just because. She hasn’t bit yet.

[Coastie05]

 I’m definitely going to follow this thread. Very entertaining. 

Edited 5 hours ago by Coastie05

[PhilB]

3 hours ago, KARNUT said:

I want her to get an electric truck. I want to put a generator in the back. Just because. She hasn’t bit yet.

Get her the Ram 1500 REV.  The All-New Ram 1500 REV delivers innovative performance with a liquid-cooled 92-kilowatt-hour battery pack paired with a 130-kilowatt generator. 

https://www.ramtrucks.com/electric/1500-rev.html

[Jsdirt]

6 hours ago, Atlas said:

 

You refuse to own anything made in this century yet you reportedly own... a 2007 Silverado, which is now almost 20 years old. The dissonance.... turn up your hearing aid?

 

You clearly don't understand the government contracting process, brother. We send people to die on front lines, keep the public safe, and make people's husbands, wives, children enter burning buildings with equipment from .....wait for it.....

 

...the lowest bidder....

 

Just because something is used for a long time doesn't mean it's good. But it might be cheap and plentiful.

 

Please, continue to whine about new trucks in a thread dedicated to new trucks, which you've said you'll never own. We get it. Go tell everyone how you're stuck in time on a Panther forum. I mean, Jesus, an 86 isn't even one of the good Panthers.

You have zero reading comprehension, or memory, since I have said NUMEROUS times that I dumped that Silverado years ago with 134k miles on it and bought a 1st gen Cummins-powered 1993 Ram W250 with a 5-speed. I spent more time working on the Silverado than I did driving it ... so I replaced it with something that's now 33 model years old that can actually get the job done without breaking!

 

Sure, I can't speed like I could with the Silverado, but now I can enjoy my weekends rather than spending the entire 2 days underneath a modern pile of dog ****.

 

Yeah, the Marquis is no good ... but it has taken my wife and myself back and forth to work nearly 70 miles PER DAY for TWENTY-THREE YEARS. Still running the ORIGINAL in-tank electric fuel pump after 40 years and over 312K miles! Your definition of "quality" is skewed ...

 

I'm starting to realize you might just be mentally disabled. Sorry for picking on you in that case.

 

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[PhilB]

Speaking of memory issues....  

 

Can we please get back to the topic of 2027 GMC Sierra?  

[Jsdirt]

So, GM will sell this thing for 60% higher than it's actually worth, and those blinded by shiny things and comfy seats will buy them up in droves only to be disappointed that either the engine failure modes haven't been corrected, or, that new failure modes were introduced. After 5 years the sheer complexity and cost of repairs to the various systems will render the truck "unfixable", and thousands will head to the crusher while some people will be left owing THOUSANDS on the note.

 

Happy now?

 

There is no room to put, "SOLD",  in my signature ... and if I edit it I lose all the other vehicles I have listed, so the Silverado will stay there until the forum changes the way that posts. I also have a few other vehicles that I can't fit there, so it's not accurate anyway.

 

Besides that, I don't much give a ****.

Edited 19 minutes ago by Jsdirt