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The reason I may not renew on star is if some steals my truck I don't want it back. The other stuff I don't use any way. Most everything they offer my phone does. The best GPS I ever use is my cheep Garman.

I feel the same way, if someone takes the truck i want a new one. no interest in getting one back that has a theft recovery branding on the title, plus all the potential electrical gremlins that will start popping up from them trying to rip things out. dont forget to add that most of the vehicles that are recovered were slept in by homeless for a few days so the interior will need to be sanitized and inspected for drugs, needles etc...

and seeing that it is a truck, chances are someone will try to take it offroading and smack it off a rock, tree..etc...

 

it just wont be the same. if it goes i wont take it back, i have 5 yr full MSRP replacement coverage on mine for theft or accidents.

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I am going to renue "just in case". If my wife drives the truck and gets into a crash or God forbid it gets stolen, OnStar can find it for me.

 

I'm a LEO, and have seen OnStar come in handy on crashes and stolen vehicles.

I was gonna joke about you including your zodiac sign until my dumb ass realized what LEO stood for.

On-topic, My Onstar Remote Link didn't work for the first 2 months of my trial membership. Now that it is about to expire it no longer updates the dashboard (get a 216 code like before), and i tried the Navigation once and it led me to a railroad track without a crossing. No thanks.

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I feel the same way, if someone takes the truck i want a new one. no interest in getting one back that has a theft recovery branding on the title, plus all the potential electrical gremlins that will start popping up from them trying to rip things out. dont forget to add that most of the vehicles that are recovered were slept in by homeless for a few days so the interior will need to be sanitized and inspected for drugs, needles etc...

and seeing that it is a truck, chances are someone will try to take it offroading and smack it off a rock, tree..etc...

 

it just wont be the same. if it goes i wont take it back, i have 5 yr full MSRP replacement coverage on mine for theft or accidents.

Only problem is, if its recovered its yours, unless insurance writes it off, or you write it off yourself which means taking the loss. Police can still use onstar to find your vehicle even if the subscription is not active. I agree I really wouldnt want it back, but chances are insurance would dictate the outcome.

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No. Intrusive. Expensive.

 

If you're smart you'll disconnect the On$tar antenna and terminate the port with a 50 ohm 5 watt resistor.

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No. Intrusive. Expensive.

 

If you're smart you'll disconnect the On$tar antenna and terminate the port with a 50 ohm 5 watt resistor.

 

want to know more... how to do this?

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I haven't looked for the module yet. Once you find it, there will be two antennas. One for GPS and one for On$tar and cell phone.

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No. Intrusive. Expensive.

 

If you're smart you'll disconnect the On$tar antenna and terminate the port with a 50 ohm 5 watt resistor.

i just pulled the power cable out of the one on my cadillac

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Only problem is, if its recovered its yours, unless insurance writes it off, or you write it off yourself which means taking the loss. Police can still use onstar to find your vehicle even if the subscription is not active. I agree I really wouldnt want it back, but chances are insurance would dictate the outcome.

they have something like 30 days to recover the vehicle, and then the damage and repair has to equate to a certain $ value, also it has to be returned to you in pre-theft condition.

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OnStar gave me another six month discount rate (lowest plan - no maps) until 6/2015. I like to keep it during the winter months because of the cold which I don't want to get stuck during this time. I live in the country and getting help is a good distance away at times. I will make another decision at that time.

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they have something like 30 days to recover the vehicle, and then the damage and repair has to equate to a certain $ value, also it has to be returned to you in pre-theft condition.

In the states I beleive the days are determined by the insurance company, but you are right there is probably state or federal laws determining a ceiling or maximum days. In the states your car when returned, you will be given the money to get it fixed, its not like the vehicle has to come back to you before you see it has to be perfect. Might be different there but typically a stolen car in the states is a bad deal from start to finish

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Doesn't the mobile app stay active for 5 years anyway? Like the ability to lock/unlock and remote start?

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Yes it does, as long you activate the app within th trial period.

 

Therefore, the next question is:

 

What are we gonna do after 5 years lol? Sign back up to reactivate it and then cancel subscription to get another 5 years?

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i just got a letter from onstar this week saying that i need to upgrade my hardware because 2g is bing turned off canada wide and its going to be a 4g network.

i have a feeling the remote app will not be working at all if you dont do the upgrade, but you cant do the upgrade unless you have an active account, problem is we were sold the 2014's with 5 years of a working onstar remote app, so they are going to hve to swap out all the 14s either way.

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