What did you do to your "other" car (aka musclecar) today

[Daly]

8 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

According to hot rod mag, the Chevelle you describe LS6 was close to 5K. It wasn’t plentiful and probably was marked up at the dealer. I was around then and family members were running around in Shelby’s and other performance cars that usually were sold over sticker. Inflation would put the Chevelle close to 40K today. That’s without air, roll up windows, am radio. No one would put up with that today. A cheaper Chevelle with 300 HP turbo 400 trans 273 gear would run around 2300$. No air etc. The performance would lag way behind the base engine camaro at close to the same priced with inflation. The camaro would have air, cruise, power windows, etc.


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Another point as to why they don't make muscle cars anymore. They were the stripper cars. No options but horsepower. I would love a new Camaro with a 6.2 and stick without options, for around $35k  then the muscle car would be back. But the last time they did that they charged more, the Z28. Further cementing the death of the muscle car. Looking online I've seen ls6 prices from $3300-3500. With inflation that's right around $23k. Bring the market into play and you at probably $40 if they still made them. Which in my mind would still mean, the muscle car died in the 70's. They've priced them out of existence. They make performance cars now, not muscle cars. The muscle car died somewhere between 72 and 75.

[Jsdirt]

$15k sounds about right for me.

[Daly]

Sorry I will correct myself. Muscle does still exist, just not in cars. You can get a stripped down Sierra/Silverado, Ram and F150 with a V8 for cheap. That's where the muscle car legacy lives on.

[KARNUT]

Another point as to why they don't make muscle cars anymore. They were the stripper cars. No options but horsepower. I would love a new Camaro with a 6.2 and stick without options, for around $35k  then the muscle car would be back. But the last time they did that they charged more, the Z28. Further cementing the death of the muscle car. Looking online I've seen ls6 prices from $3300-3500. With inflation that's right around $23k. Bring the market into play and you at probably $40 if they still made them. Which in my mind would still mean, the muscle car died in the 70's. They've priced them out of existence. They make performance cars now, not muscle cars. The muscle car died somewhere between 72 and 75.

I bought my second new car in 1973. A barracuda. 318 2lb carb, 3 speed stick, no console, open rear, 2ply tires, disk wheel covers, brown paint, no body molding. A stripper as they were called. 3100$. A 340 cuda was almost 4K. Even back then Chrysler was the cheaper alternative. So you’re saying that just 3 years prior I could have bought a 454 Chevelle with all its goodies for just a few hundred more? The price you’re saying is a stripper Chevelle with the bottom 396 bench seat column shift non performance gear. I had one of those. It was red with the black stripes. High performance it wasn’t. This was fun no minds were changed. The camaro is a muscle car to me in any configuration.


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[Jsdirt]

I think the true muscle car died in '73 with emissions, and was rendered forever dead in 1996, with the advent of OBD-II.

 

My buddy's '10 Camaro is a fire breathing monster, with a TX Speed 427 supercharged, laying down 750 HP and over 500 ft/lbs. of torque at 2k, and all the way past redline it never dips below that. It's nuts. But, one wire, or one failed module can bring the whole thing to a halt.

 

You ain't fixin' that on the side of the road with a flathead, and adjustable wrench. A muscle car to me is meant to be simple, like my motorcycle - this is why I ride a '74 RD 350 2-stroke with dual points and carburetors vs. a modern FI, ABS bike. It'll still surprise alot of the new bikes, but I don't stand a chance on the highway. I'm fine with that - that's where all the cops are anyway.   

 

That bike can be fixed on the side of the road easily. One time I had a condenser fall out of its holder. Bike would break up over 4k. I pulled over, found a soda can someone tossed on the side of the road, peeled a layer out of it, and wrapped the condenser, reinstalled everything and continued on my way. Only other breakdown I had  in 5k miles was a 45 year old ground wire broke free from it's equally old connection.

Edited October 3, 2018 by Jsdirt

[waumo1]

I'm just thrilled there are performance vehicles readily available again and I'm here to enjoy it.  About 1975 I thought there would never be another new car I would care to own!

[Jsdirt]

I would be too,  if they weren't selling them for 75% more than they're worth ...

[IncisionInd]

On 10/2/2018 at 11:18 PM, Colossus said:

Nope, not a muscle car (muscle cars have V-8s or larger)  but a cool ride none the less. 

Alright then... I will just keep it under the title of "other" car and I'm good with it.  I will tell you that this car would SMOKE my 2008 Mustang GT I had though (before I added the Supercharger).

Edited October 4, 2018 by IncisionInd

[IncisionInd]

14 hours ago, Daly said:

Sorry I will correct myself. Muscle does still exist, just not in cars. You can get a stripped down Sierra/Silverado, Ram and F150 with a V8 for cheap. That's where the muscle car legacy lives on.

See I feel like this brings up a good question though. Before my current truck I had 2015 Silverado with a built engine and a 2.9L whipple on it.  Would this not be considered a muscle car, purely because its in a truck body.

[SnakeEyeSS]

https://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/d/900hp-twin-turbo-2010/6672277764.html

 

Good thing I already learned my lesson about buying someone else's race car. 

[IncisionInd]

2 hours ago, SnakeEyeSS said:

https://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/d/900hp-twin-turbo-2010/6672277764.html

 

Good thing I already learned my lesson about buying someone else's race car. 

doesnt it at least tempt you sometimes?  I know it does for me...

[SnakeEyeSS]

2 hours ago, IncisionInd said:

doesnt it at least tempt you sometimes?  I know it does for me...

I did before. It didn't end well. TL;DR, the owner between me and the builder put the wrong oil in it, so a 15-20k engine went pooey while I had it. I didn't even piece together what happened until it was too late, and I talked to the builder to review what I had been told by the Previous Owner.

Edited October 5, 2018 by SnakeEyeSS

[IncisionInd]

5 hours ago, SnakeEyeSS said:

I did before. It didn't end well. TL;DR, the owner between me and the builder put the wrong oil in it, so a 15-20k engine went pooey while I had it. I didn't even piece together what happened until it was too late, and I talked to the builder to review what I had been told by the Previous Owner.

Ah.... yeah... that would definitely put a different perspective on things.

 

I bought a 2008 GT500 from someone and I was still "learning" things about the car for MONTHS.

[KARNUT]

I bought someone’s toy for 1/4 of what he had in it. Still driving it eight years later. It helps when they have recipes. I remember when the fastest American production vehicle was a truck. 1979 little red express truck. My brother still races the one he bought new.


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[Jsdirt]

Those were great looking trucks! They've pretty much disappeared the last 10 years. I've only seen one in that time frame.

 

Was a pretty sad state of affairs for performance in '79, when 225HP was king of the hill. ? Although I remember when my buddy bought a '89 Mustang LX brand new - that was about the same HP, and we thought it was a rocket ship.