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MikeNH Senior Enthusiast

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That's fine for what is not a real truck either. A 5.3 Chev or 5.0 liter F150 regular cab isn't much different... and a Tremor would outrun it. I spend enough time at the local track to watch these trucks run real world and the Hemi Rams are always the slowest thing out there for the large engine trucks.

 

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Regular cabs aren't real trucks? lol there goes your credibility.

 

The 5.7 will destroy the common V8 options on GM and Ford trucks. The 6.2 is probably a better motor but GM is continuing their stupid top trim only scheme for selling it. Until GM gets their head out of their ass and offers it across the line the 6.2 is not relevant to this discussion.

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Badass69 Senior Enthusiast

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Regular cabs aren't real trucks? lol there goes your credibility.

 

The 5.7 will destroy the common V8 options on GM and Ford trucks. The 6.2 is probably a better motor but GM is continuing their stupid top trim only scheme for selling it. Until GM gets their head out of their ass and offers it across the line the 6.2 is not relevant to this discussion.

Credibility... lol... like you have any here. No a regular cab 6.5' bed pickup is not a real truck. It's a toy... period.

 

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MikeNH Senior Enthusiast

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Credibility... lol... like you have any here. No a regular cab 6.5' bed pickup is not a real truck. It's a toy... period.

 

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You do realize that prior to 15 or so years ago half ton crews didn't even exist?

 

 

And the majority of the crew buyers today don't even use them as trucks. As you said- it's a SUV with a bed.

 

So in your world, regular cabs are toys and crew cabs are just butch SUVs. Where does that leave us? The extended cab? lol

j-ten-ner Senior Enthusiast

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I think RAM made a good move with this generation of trucks (and the boxy design before that).

They look like a truck, they sound like a truck and they drive like a truck.

If I need a work horse one day I'd consider one of those.

 

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They should have stick with the design idea instead of just "bloating" up the next generations.

 

so long

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Badass69 Senior Enthusiast

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You do realize that prior to 15 or so years ago half ton crews didn't even exist?

 

 

And the majority of the crew buyers today don't even use them as trucks. As you said- it's a SUV with a bed.

 

So in your world, regular cabs are toys and crew cabs are just butch SUVs. Where does that leave us? The extended cab? lol

No you are correct. But you do realize that 2500 crews built 15 years ago or more has less legal capability than a new half ton right? Gm made oodles of 7200 gvwr 3/4 ton trucks that were built lighter duty than half tons now. It wasn't until they started badging an 8600 lb gvwr 3/4 ton in 01 as a half ton that they got in the game. I don't buy crew cabs basically... but with a 6.5' bed that Gm wouldn't build until this body style as an actual half ton they are kind of useless .. and most of the time my 6.5' bed is too small. Either way I like the length for stability towing a trailer.... You won't get that as a regular cab anymore unless you buy the 8 foot bed that is a capable truck nobody wants anymore.

 

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Daly Senior Enthusiast

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Not all trucks are bought to tow… Some of us like the idea of safely putting stuff in the bed, instead of buying a trailer to haul stuff around… Not everyone needs to haul 9000lbs on a regular basis, and just because a truck can't tow 9000lbs, doesn't mean it's not a real truck.This notion of "they aren't real trucks" is just stupid…

 

It's a pretty simple formula for a truck, if it was built from factory with a large exposed place to put things, it's a real truck…

 

If towing is all that makes a truck then I guess the only real truck out there is a 3500 or bigger…

 

The lady down the road that has a little regular cab short box Ranger she uses to do the gardens around the house, has a real truck.

The family that has a crew cab 5" bed beside me, that uses it to haul the kids dirt bikes and camping gear, has a real truck.

My Extended cab short box, that I use to get reno material and take old material to the dump in, is a real truck.

None of these truck tow anything, so they must not be real trucks…

SnakeEyeSS Senior Enthusiast

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Heck, a new V6 is tow rated 7200 and a 95 5.7 chevy is rated 7500. And the new engine is quicker and faster!

 

Times change.

vonshep Enthusiast

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I just traded in my 13 reg cab ram with the 5.7 and the 355 rear it was a rocket it was much quicker than the 15 Silverado ltz with the 5.3 and towed like a dream .Now to why I didn't go with a ram when I needed a 4 door they come mostly with the 3.21 rear and a 8 speed lower tow rating and a lot of the people I know with the 8 speed have had issues with them needing multiple valve body replacements Also even though my truck was only 2 years old it had a lot of rust on the frame ram just paints the frame rails instead of undercoating them any scratch starts rusting immediately and I hate the dial shifter on the 15s.I wouldn't even consider the fords because I not sold on the aluminum body yet and turbos are great until the blow then bend over .I must admit as a life long mopar guy the chevy is growing on me

crafferty Senior Enthusiast

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Honestly I am a GM fan boy when it comes to trucks and will continue to buy as long as the quality and features are on par or better than the rest. But honestly thr big these days are killing it with the new trucks and I would be proud to own any of them. Each truck has its draw backs but thats just life. For me I'd get a Ram with the diesel engine, Ford I would purchase a Eco-boost and make sure the truck had the panoramic sunroof. GM I have to have the 6.2L.

 

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mdrew Enthusiast

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Just go drive one. Bad and downright incorrect "advice" in the majority of posts made in this thread.

 

They have tighter steering, tighter brakes, and have very quick acceleration. You can get the 8 speed with 3.92 or 3.21 gears, and the tranny actually shifts well, unlike the confused GM 8 speed. My friend's 2014 with the 8 speed and 3.92s feels much quicker than my 6.2 Denali. His Ram is MUCH funner to drive.

 

Thats the good. The not so good is general ride quality. They ride stiff, the seats feel like a park bench, and I just can't get used to the steering wheel.

 

Interior of the Ram is more luxurious with more features. U connect is flaky. Keyless entry is a great feature (that I miss dearly).

 

I love the telescopic steering column and mag ride of my Denali. If the Ram had better seats, the GM steering wheel and column, and a better ride - I'd own one.

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I like you have been a GM guy for years. In 2012 I bought my first Ram and in 2013 I bought my 2nd because I liked the updates and wanted 4wd. I unfortunately got a 6 speed and not the 8 speed otherwise I would still be driving it because I never any problems or issues with it except mpg, I averaged about 14.5. I was going to get a 2015 Ram sport but I decided to go back to GM and I told my wife yesterday I miss my Ram and I got a shut the F up look so there you go... I will be driving my 2015 Silverado for a little while.

Ram is supposed to have a complete update in 2017 so maybe I'll have look at them again then...

Hozer Enthusiast

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If I needed a 2500 or 3500, I'd seriously consider a RAM based on price vs GM and Ford.

 

Many people told me I could get a 1500 RAM much cheaper than a GM or Ford but, that really only seemed to hold up on the 'work truck' packages. With mid level trim and the options I wanted on a 4x4 crew cab with 6 1/2 foot box, pricing as pretty close between the three.

 

In the 1500, I like the GM look better and was able to get the configuration I wanted for a very good price. I know the RAM has more horsepower but its power I don't actually need. The RAM gets better fuel economy, either with the new Eco-Diesel or with the 5.7L and 8 speed transmission so I do wish for that but, its not enough of a difference that I'd trade for.

atsbob Enthusiast

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I bought a new Ram with the eco diesel and this was my first ram. Have been with GM all my life but wanted better pulling and fuel millage and I am very happy. It pulls my 5400 Lb enclosed trailer with ease as my 2010 5.3 struggled on hills. My fuel millage with my trailer behind is getting the same millage as my 5.3 was empty around the city.

 

BUT the Ram is ugly compared to the GM In my humble opinion. the ram also does not have blind side awareness like the GM has and that is much more important than a lot of the crap a new vehicle comes with like the adjustable peddles, The Ram also does not have power fold trailer mirrors and that in its self drives me nuts..

 

The four corner air suspension on the Ram is great and the only thing I wish I had that I don't is the Ram Box.

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