New Timney Trigger - Remington 700

[CapitalTruck]

I finally broke down and bought (and had installed) a new trigger on my Remington 700 deer rifle. I have to tell you, I wish I would have done it ages ago. This Timney trigger is just awesome.

 

When my Remington came b​ack from the recall it had a trigger pull of 7 pounds! Yes, can you believe that!

 

The Timney is at 3.5 and feels great. When I went to shoot a deer a couple of weekends ago with the old trigger I had to confirm that the safety was off the pull was so bad.

[BlackZ71Silverado]

The new Remington XMP trigger is a little heavy out of the box but it is very adjustable. Remington had to deal with some legal issues in the past due to people firing their rifles due to improper handling of a firearm, that's why the rifle comes with a heavier trigger, to please the lawyers.

 

An XMP trigger adjusted properly by someone that knows what they are doing with firearms is about as good as it gets.

I have the XMP trigger in several of my model 700's and every one breaks clean with zero creep at 3lbs.

I also have a few older 700's with the old style Remington trigger and they also breaks like glass at 3lbs.

 

No need to spend so much money on an aftermarket trigger when the rifle comes with a really good trigger. All Remington XMP triggers can be adjusted to perfection in about 5 minutes. Learn how to properly adjust a trigger and save yourself about $130 or more on something you don't need!

[CapitalTruck]

I'm glad you're pleased with yours. I had mine backed down to 4.5 by a gunsmith (who knows if he knew what he was doing) and the thing got hinky on me. Here's the scenario:

 

Trigger would take 4 +/- lbs to pull. However, when taking the safety off if there was 0.25 lbs on the trigger the thing would fire. This startled the living piss out of me one day deer hunting. Literally, if there was anything touching the trigger when the safety was taken off it would fire. Now obviously ideally there would never be anything on it, but still. I had the very tip of my glove inadvertently on it one year, kablam. Now I know that this is a typical mistake, but when I tell you ANY amount of weight on the trigger would result in a firing I mean any. Maybe the gun shop f'ed up.

 

Try yours just for kicks (unloaded). Pull trigger, feel how much pull is required, then just lightly rest finger on trigger and disengage safety. See if it fires.

[Tattooo]

I have one on my 700 also & agree it is amazing

[BlackZ71Silverado]

There lies your problem. Finger on trigger while moving from safe to fire. That's not a trigger problem, it's an incorrect & unsafe firearms handling problem.

 

There is nothing wrong with any Remington triggers. They all function as designed.

 

There is no aftermarket trigger that is going to help you keep your finger off the trigger, no matter how much money you spend on one. Timney makes a good product but it will fire just like the Remington trigger if your finger is on it when it shouldn't be.

 

 

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[kstruckcountry]

There were problems, I believe they recalled them up to a couple years ago.

 

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[kstruckcountry]

Here it is: http://xmprecall.remington.com

 

The 700s have issues with triggers on and off through the years.

 

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[BlackZ71Silverado]

Here it is: http://xmprecall.remington.com

 

The 700s have issues with triggers on and off through the years.

 

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There are no current issues with any new rifles. The issued recall took care of the problem Remington had due to the supplier of parts they were using. I was under the assumption that 'gun guys' were all aware of the recall issued by Remington, it's been known for quite some time now.

 

The current model 700's have zero trigger issues in current production rifles, they are fine and there is no need to worry.

If you have a model 700 rifle and serial number fits the recall, all you need to do is contact Remington and they will send you a rifle box with prepaid postage addressed to a certified Remington repair station (The one I used was out of NY and had all of my rifles returned within a seven day period). When you receive the box, set up UPS pickup and it will be taken care of free of charge with the updated parts.

 

This past trigger issue was actually caused by a parts supplier Remington was using was incorrectly assembling their trigger groups and using far too much of their bonding material within the trigger group. We see the same type of recalls with vehicle manufacturers and they are also mainly because of the parts suppliers.

I had three rifles sent out for the recall and they all came back with a new, updated XMP trigger with external adjustment screw. I didn't have trouble from any of those rifles but sent them to a Remington repair facility just to have the newest XMP trigger design installed.

 

If anybody is looking to purchase a new model 700, there is nothing to worry about. All rifles currently being sold have had the recall work completed and already have the updated XMP trigger. There is nothing wrong with purchasing an aftermarket trigger for your rifles and there are several to choose from. If an aftermarket trigger is what you want, then by all means go for it, I just view it as an unnecessary expense that's all.

There are a lot of quality aftermarket triggers designed for the model 700. The good triggers I am aware of are manufactured by Timney, Jewel, Jard, and Shilen. There are more out there, those are just the ones I am familiar with and have used in the past.

 

 

Trigger issues, negligent discharge issues with rifles are not specific to Remington, not by a long shot. There are many people having trouble with their rifle triggers and they are all of the adjustable triggers in several different manufacturers rifles. The discharge problem is happening with these rifles due to people improperly adjusting their triggers when there really is no need to touch it. Triggers are being adjusted well beyond recommended and safe specs. With the rifle triggers being adjusted down to 1-2lbs (not safe), there are many having negligent discharges when clicking the safety into the fire position. Because the trigger is adjusted incorrectly and being far out of spec., the slightest bump or vibration is tripping the sear firing the rifle. This is happening with Remington, Weatherby, and Browning as far as I know and from what I read, they are all user caused problems.

[CapitalTruck]

It goes without saying that you can't have a finger on the trigger when taking the safety off. I was trying to indicate what I believe was an issue with my previous trigger. It seems to me, and I could be wrong about this, that a person should still have to have the prescribed amount of pull applied to the trigger to fire the weapon if the safety is moved from "safe" to "fire". With my 700, the trigger pull was set to about 4 pounds. However, if even 1/16th of that amount of "pull" was applied to the trigger during the actual act of moving the lever from "safe" to "fire" the gun would fire. Obviously a person should never have their finger on the trigger unless they are planning on firing the gun. Fortunately everything else about my firearms handling was safe when the very tip of my glove was on the trigger. (ie safety doesn't come off until you are shooting).

 

After I had the recall completed on my gun and the trigger came back set to 7 pounds I just decided the hell with it all and bought a Timney. Honestly, even the actual trigger itself feels great on the finger.

[Spurshot]

I had a late 70s Rem 700 that I was able to adjust that trigger down to 2.5 lbs reliably. You can bang the butt or jiggle the bolt without it slipping the sear. It's still at that setting with a friend who's owned it for the past 15 years.

[sourdough44]

Yep, even though I've seen older 700 triggers that adjusted OK, my two have aftermarket triggers. One has a Tmney, the other a Shilen.

 

I'm off to IL later this week. I'll be using my Knight muzzle-loader, which has a fantastic trigger. It's a 45 cal Elite, for those interested.

[sprayed99]

I have both old school remmys and timneys. I prefer my timneys not because of pull weight, but for the shoe design. I like wide shoe triggers on my bolt guns.

[waumo1]

I have older Remington 700s with the triggers properly adjusted and they are great and will not go off no matter how the bolt or gun is slammed. I also have one that I bought used and it came with a Timney trigger. It is excellent.

[Spurshot]

The overall quality of M700s declined over the years. You can see it in the machining quality if you know much about machining. All that stuff custom rifle builders advertise for smoothing and truing a M700 is more about a later gun. A 60s-70s M700 is a much different animal than a ~2000+ on just about every piece of the gun. I bought an BDL action around 2000 to build an extreme long range gun. I sold it and bought an early rifle to strip the action out of. The machining was pretty ugly and bolt to barrel thread concentricity was off more than I was willing to mess with.

 

I have to admit I haven't looked at what's being made today.

 

When it came time to chose actions for three custom rifles for friends of mine, I chose L61 Sako actions. Even they had cheapened their actions by the 90s. They had eliminated the integral recoil lug and simply provided a cheap extruded aluminum angle that sandwiched between the stock and receiver with the front screw. But the machining was still top notch. I tossed the aluminum angle and simply used a Remington style lug sandwiched between the barrel and receiver, when I chambered and threaded the barrels. The factory Sako triggers were pretty decent.

[tnchevy]

I own 5 early to mid 70's remington 700's and love them all. I also have a Rem 788 in 22.250 with a timney trigger in it set at 1.5 lbs. The original trigger was worked on in the mid 80's but was not functioning well when it was given to me by my dad about 10 years ago. Triggers for 788's at the time were hard to come by and timney had quit making them for 788's due to lack of demand. I finally got one and glad I did. My 788 is my favorite rifle (I have two other 22.250's) and it is a tack driver.