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Theyve been talking about resurrecting the bronco for years, it would be pretty sweet, but ill believe it when i see one.

 

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There would be a demand but nothing close to the 4 door tahoe yukon demand. I would guess 20%. However i think if built in lower quantities and advertised properly they would have no problem moving them.

I'd guess lower, something closer to regular cab volumes on current-gen Silverado and Sierra, which wavers right around the 10% mark.

 

As for the Bronco talk -- my understanding is it's not going to be a two-door SUV but an "Americanized" version of the Ranger-based Everest, which is a five-door (but body-on-frame) SUV. The closest approximation in the GM global portfolio would be the Thai-market Trailblazer. Really wish those would join the US portfolio, but completely understand why there isn't a completely solid business case for it.

Lgetz Senior Enthusiast

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I would trade my 15 AT for a 2 door full size Blazer/Tahoe/Jimmy/Yukon with the 6.2 V- 8. Older brother had a 97 Z- 71 2 door Tahoe for 9 years in Indigo Blue and I drove it whenever I had a chance. Great combination of interior room and maneuverability. If GM builds a 4X4 model with a 6.2 and prices it in the high 40's or low 50's sign me up.

MikeNH Senior Enthusiast

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i hate to say it , ,but the new ford bronco is bad ass.... i love the look.

 

The photos aren't real. They're all renderings or pics of a 12 year old concept vehicle. So we don't know the look yet.

WilliamBos Senior Enthusiast

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I would trade my 15 AT for a 2 door full size Blazer/Tahoe/Jimmy/Yukon with the 6.2 V- 8. Older brother had a 97 Z- 71 2 door Tahoe for 9 years in Indigo Blue and I drove it whenever I had a chance. Great combination of interior room and maneuverability. If GM builds a 4X4 model with a 6.2 and prices it in the high 40's or low 50's sign me up.

It could be built in the high 30's easily if they left all the cushy options in the Caddy's.

Someone at GM needs a heads game, no reason to bundle the 6.2 with leather.

 

I'd take a 2 door with the max trailer package.

Lgetz Senior Enthusiast

Lgetz

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I feel that with a 6.2 and 2 doors less mid to high 40 to low 50 is what they would sticker for. Keep in mind 4 door Yukon/Tahoe 4wd SLE/LT models sticker in high 50 range so a couple of doors less will take about 6- 7 grand off price but than 2500 would get added back with the 6.2 engine. Agree that leather shouldn't be compulsory to get the big engine but I will take what they give me as long as I get a 6.2.

Rock1500 Senior Enthusiast

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I don't see this happening. First by the time they design and develop one it will take a few years and who knows what the prices of gas will be and in return the demand for them. Truck demand only started when the price of gas was dropping. When i bought my truck in early 2014, over half the lot was v6 trucks and they tried to sell me one of them. I went by the lot a few months back for an oil change and it was almost all v8s.

 

Also the epa regulations are still in effect. The fleet average mpg have to / need to go up in the next few years to hit their goals. The companies have asked for a extension but I don't think that will happen nor should it.

 

So having another truck base will have an effect of the fleet average.

 

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The photos aren't real. They're all renderings or pics of a 12 year old concept vehicle. So we don't know the look yet.

aww.... thanks homie!!!...

WilliamBos Senior Enthusiast

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I don't see this happening. First by the time they design and develop one it will take a few years and who knows what the prices of gas will be and in return the demand for them. Truck demand only started when the price of gas was dropping. When i bought my truck in early 2014, over half the lot was v6 trucks and they tried to sell me one of them. I went by the lot a few months back for an oil change and it was almost all v8s.

Also the epa regulations are still in effect. The fleet average mpg have to / need to go up in the next few years to hit their goals. The companies have asked for a extension but I don't think that will happen nor should it.

So having another truck base will have an effect of the fleet average.

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Even when it was above $6/gallon up here truck sales never slowed down, nor did suv sales. Fuel may cost more, still better off then buying a car.

Silverado Steve Senior Enthusiast

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Canada doesnt drive the North American truck market sales...never has and never will. Toyota reintroduced the FJ to much fanfare a few years back, how did it do in sales and is Toyota still building it? People always say they would buy it if they build it, we know that that is mostly false.

 

 

Even when it was above $6/gallon up here truck sales never slowed down, nor did suv sales. Fuel may cost more, still better off then buying a car.

WilliamBos Senior Enthusiast

WilliamBos

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Canada doesnt drive the North American truck market sales...never has and never will. Toyota reintroduced the FJ to much fanfare a few years back, how did it do in sales and is Toyota still building it? People always say they would buy it if they build it, we know that that is mostly false.

My point is you guys have no clue what expensive gas is. If you let the price of gas force you out of a truck, then chances are you had no business buying one in the first place.

 

When it was $6/gallon up here selling never crossed my mind. My truck is a necessity. Regardless of what fuel costs, that's all I will own.

Silverado Steve Senior Enthusiast

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We do, we just dont tolerate high prices like many parts of the world. Consumers here in the US drive the market based on gas prices, which is why there is a fine balance of building cars Americans want and keeping gas prices steady and low and why Canada pays more for gas, you you guys dont let gas prices sway your decisions as much. You guys accept high prices eventhough you have your own oil and gas; here politicians get voted out of office over soaring energy prices.

 

Oddly enough the truck market in Canada pales in comparison to the US. Heck the Tacoma sales # in the US outsells the #1 F150 in Canada by a health margin. The full sizes dwarf the full size sales in Canada too.

http://cars.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b3c669e201b8d224bd9f970c-pi

http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2016/10/canada-pickup-truck-sales-figures-september-2016-ytd.html

 

My point is you guys have no clue what expensive gas is. If you let the price of gas force you out of a truck, then chances are you had no business buying one in the first place.

WilliamBos Senior Enthusiast

WilliamBos

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We do, we just dont tolerate high prices like many parts of the world. Consumers here in the US drive the market based on gas prices, which is why there is a fine balance of building cars Americans want and keeping gas prices steady and low and why Canada pays more for gas, you you guys dont let gas prices sway your decisions as much. You guys accept high prices eventhough you have your own oil and gas; here politicians get voted out of office over soaring energy prices.

Oddly enough the truck market in Canada pales in comparison to the US. Heck the Tacoma sales # in the US outsells the #1 F150 in Canada by a health margin. The full sizes dwarf the full size sales in Canada too. http://cars.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b3c669e201b8d224bd9f970c-pihttp://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2016/10/canada-pickup-truck-sales-figures-september-2016-ytd.html

Well of course. USA is physically smaller with 10x the population. The sales difference is obvious.

Silverado Steve Senior Enthusiast

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Again, that is why Canada will never determine what GM, Ford ir Chrysler builds. If gas goes up too high here, gone will be the Bronco and other gas guzzling bohemouths, and you willing to pay $6/gallon will have nothing to do with that decision by the Big-3. Which was my initial point 5 posts back.

 

 

Well of course. USA is physically smaller with 10x the population. The sales difference is obvious.

WilliamBos Senior Enthusiast

WilliamBos

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Again, that is why Canada will never determine what GM, Ford ir Chrysler builds. If gas goes up too high here, gone will be the Bronco and other gas guzzling bohemouths, and you willing to pay $6/gallon will have nothing to do with that decision by the Big-3. Which was my initial point 5 posts back.

Sales up here and vehicles sold up here are not dictated by what's happens in USA. They are separate entities for a reason. GM Canada is entirely separate from GM USA.

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