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Loco-diablo Senior Enthusiast

Loco-diablo

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Hid projector is what it says i have. Lt all star edition with added stuff

 

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HID’s on the LT’s, not LED. I have the same. 2017 LT with allstar/midnight package. I was out driving around in the snow last night but didn’t notice a problem with snow building up on the headlights. HID do not put out the heat that halogens do. Same with LED. Not much you can do about as far as I know.

I’ll probably run into this at some point.

 

 

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Bash74 Enthusiast

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I can say I have never had this problem at all driving in the snow and can't say I know anyone that it has happened to. Seems odd to me.

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sdeeter19555 Senior Enthusiast

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I can say I have never had this problem at all driving in the snow and can't say I know anyone that it has happened to. Seems odd to me.

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Common problem...especially if you drive sloppy interstates.

Steve
2012 2500hd 6.0l

truckguy82 Senior Enthusiast

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Halogen, LED, HID, doesn't matter. When you guys are picturing the heat output of the bulb your picturing your scorching hot 500watt halogen construction lamp.

 

energy consumption = heat

wattage = energy consumption

 

So a 25watt LED, a 25watt HID, and a 25 watt halogen all make the same heat. They might have different light outputs, but the heat is the same.

 

A 1500 watt space heater

(15) 100 watt bulbs

an entertainment system drawing 1500 watts

(10) 150 watt computer monitors

 

all emit exactly 5,118.2 btu's of heat

sdeeter19555 Senior Enthusiast

sdeeter19555

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Halogen, LED, HID, doesn't matter. When you guys are picturing the heat output of the bulb your picturing your scorching hot 500watt halogen construction lamp.
 
energy consumption = heat
wattage = energy consumption
 
So a 25watt LED, a 25watt HID, and a 25 watt halogen all make the same heat. They might have different light outputs, but the heat is the same.
 
A 1500 watt space heater
(15) 100 watt bulbs
an entertainment system drawing 1500 watts
(10) 150 watt computer monitors
 
all emit exactly 5,118.2 btu's of heat
But the beam (and "heat") of a bulb is focused through lense...not radiating in all directions. I think most of it has to do with the plastic lense being an insulator. The bulbs are similar wattage to the old sealed beams, so "heat" should be similar.

For what it's worth, I ran a set of incandescent sealed-beam plow lights on my trucks when I lived in the snow belt for this very reason. The truck's lights would be covered, the plow lights would be clear of snow as they got warm enough to melt it off. And back when I traveled cross country, I would pull the LED tails off my Dodge and swap over to the OE housing with incandescent bulbs in winter for the same reason. It does help...

Steve
2012 2500hd

Arch Angel Enthusiast

Arch Angel

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So dealership said they never had this problem lol and i should use rainx and if ut ruins my headlights plastic just say they yellowed for no apparent or known reason....and warranty would vmcover it..seems odd

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truckguy82 Senior Enthusiast

truckguy82

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14 minutes ago, sdeeter19555 said:

But the beam (and "heat") of a bulb is focused through lense...not radiating in all directions. I think most of it has to do with the plastic lense being an insulator. The bulbs are similar wattage to the old sealed beams, so "heat" should be similar.

For what it's worth, I ran a set of incandescent sealed-beam plow lights on my trucks when I lived in the snow belt for this very reason. The truck's lights would be covered, the plow lights would be clear of snow as they got warm enough to melt it off. And back when I traveled cross country, I would pull the LED tails off my Dodge and swap over to the OE housing with incandescent bulbs in winter for the same reason. It does help...

Steve
2012 2500hd
 

The light output itself is actually an extremely small percentage of the heat.

 

I think even a modern LED light still only converts 10% of it’s energy into light and 90% is converted into heat

Sierra706 Senior Enthusiast

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Halogen, LED, HID, doesn't matter. When you guys are picturing the heat output of the bulb your picturing your scorching hot 500watt halogen construction lamp.
 
energy consumption = heat
wattage = energy consumption
 
So a 25watt LED, a 25watt HID, and a 25 watt halogen all make the same heat. They might have different light outputs, but the heat is the same.
 
A 1500 watt space heater
(15) 100 watt bulbs
an entertainment system drawing 1500 watts
(10) 150 watt computer monitors
 
all emit exactly 5,118.2 btu's of heat


Good point. But where that heat is being generated will make a difference. LEDs tend to make heat in the ballast and electronics, not the filament. Halogen have no electronics at the back of the housing, so all heat generated is closer to the surface of the lense.


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truckguy82 Senior Enthusiast

truckguy82

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6 minutes ago, Bushleaguechew said:

 


Good point. But where that heat is being generated will make a difference. LEDs tend to make heat in the ballast and electronics, not the filament. Halogen have no electronics at the back of the housing, so all heat generated is closer to the surface of the lense.


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Well right back at you with the good point

grizz_wi Enthusiast

grizz_wi

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7 hours ago, greenfire said:

So dealership said they never had this problem lol and i should use rainx and if ut ruins my headlights plastic just say they yellowed for no apparent or known reason....and warranty would vmcover it..seems odd

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I would use a paint sealant, shit makes plastic/paint/glass so much the stuff slides right off. I use wolfgang on my truck , no issues thus far with the headlights in wisconsin , granted looking back at my winter pic from last month they were pretty close to being covered, this was a 2 hour drive with extremely heavy snowfall 65to3PGl.jpg

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Arch Angel

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I would use a paint sealant, shit makes plastic/paint/glass so much the stuff slides right off. I use wolfgang on my truck , no issues thus far with the headlights in wisconsin , granted looking back at my winter pic from last month they were pretty close to being covered, this was a 2 hour drive with extremely heavy snowfall 65to3PGl.jpg
Do u have a link tp the product u use?

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grizz_wi Enthusiast

grizz_wi

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35 minutes ago, greenfire said:

Do u have a link tp the product u use?

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I use this stuff:  https://www.amazon.com/Wolfgang-WG-5500-Gloss-Paint-Sealant/dp/B01AGELUJE/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1513259948&sr=1-1&keywords=wolfgang+sealant

 

Could probably use the jetseal or the highly rated colinite 845 which is much cheaper.

Nick The Great Senior Enthusiast

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I'm going have to keep my eyes peeled for this.  I've been driving in snowy winters for 20 years and never had this issue.  But I've not driven this truck in snow yet.  

Bash74 Enthusiast

Bash74

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Common problem...especially if you drive sloppy interstates.

Steve
2012 2500hd 6.0l

I don't do much of that up in Alaska. Most of my driving is dirt roads and some short highway trips but it's not ever sloppy snow.

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