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The control arms where stock, just ordered ready lift leveling kit with upper control arms designed to change the geometry of the stress on the components especially the control arm and ball joints

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silveradonationfan15
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And that is a leveled trailboss with 35" tires

Ben Berkenpas
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Can't tell if your trying to be a comedian here or if your serious?  It wasn't really very funny and it didn't really make any sense!  If you don't care about this topic, don't follow along.

JR09country
JR09country

To me 2" is 2" no matter how you get it. Wether you put it on the top, bottom or middle it still increases the cv and ball joint angles. Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk

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1 hour ago, Mike may said:

The control arms where stock, just ordered ready lift leveling kit with upper control arms designed to change the geometry of the stress on the components especially the control arm and ball joints

The only modification i did on my truck was the 1" spacer. Scared the hell out of me when that tire folded and locked up !.

So that's 2 trailboss trucks that failed. It appears factory 2" plus 1" for 3" total is to much upper ball joint angle.

Beware trailboss owners with lift  blocks without upgraded upper a-arms ! .

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6 hours ago, Mike may said:

The control arms where stock, just ordered ready lift leveling kit with upper control arms designed to change the geometry of the stress on the components especially the control arm and ball joints

Did you get it professionally installed, curious because I wanted to do a RC, level but now I’m second guessing... did you do an alignment after installing too?

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On 10/12/2020 at 11:25 AM, ALLSTAR said:

Added a Motofab 1" spacer (CH-1LM-TB)  to my 2019 trailboss. after about 8 months passenger side upper ball joint separated.

Normal driving, couple railroad track crossings daily at speed that might have extended suspension.

Lucky i was going only about 25mph when it came apart. Going to go with better angle upper a-arms.

 

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Was your level professionally installed? And did you do an alignment? Curious because I’m second guessing doing it now..

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8 minutes ago, jgjorge44 said:

Was your level professionally installed? And did you do an alignment? Curious because I’m second guessing doing it now..

I installed them myself. Its just a spacer, 2 bolts, Its pretty easy to install, you really cant do it wrong.

I could post a pic when it gets light out. Went right to alignment shop and they had to do a minor adjustment.

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31 minutes ago, ALLSTAR said:

I installed them myself. Its just a spacer, 2 bolts, Its pretty easy to install, you really cant do it wrong.

I could post a pic when it gets light out. Went right to alignment shop and they had to do a minor adjustment.

Here is closer view of ball joint

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I’m not a mechanic.  Bought my truck new off the lot as it sits today.  Can anyone look at my angles and tell me if I’m driving around a ticking time bomb?  If so I’m going to get my suspension fixed.  
 

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9 hours ago, Musgo said:

I’m not a mechanic.  Bought my truck new off the lot as it sits today.  Can anyone look at my angles and tell me if I’m driving around a ticking time bomb?  If so I’m going to get my suspension fixed.  
 

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From my understanding is that every stock is already stretched, but still good if you keep factory settings on it. You only push it if you plan on leveling, if so the consensus seems to be to replace the arm to fix the geometry. Readylift has a kit that includes the arm. 

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1 hour ago, jgjorge44 said:

From my understanding is that every stock is already stretched, but still good if you keep factory settings on it. You only push it if you plan on leveling, if so the consensus seems to be to replace the arm to fix the geometry. Readylift has a kit that includes the arm. 

I agree. MUSGO'S AT4 appears to be factory, and looks good to me .  Can someone with just a 1" or 1.5" level with factory upper a arms get a picture of the ball joint angle like the one Musgo posted for a comparision ?  

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1 hour ago, ALLSTAR said:

I agree. MUSGO'S AT4 appears to be factory, and looks good to me .  Can someone with just a 1" or 1.5" level with factory upper a arms get a picture of the ball joint angle like the one Musgo posted for a comparision ?  

RC’s level is 1.5in but it still apparently caused the same issue. I guess replacing the arm is the only way to fix the geometry, but I don’t know for sure. I would like to see someone’s geo with a professionally installed level, see if it’s still the same. Also some Chevy dealers preload a 1in level on their trucks off the lot. Would like to know where they get their kits 

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7 hours ago, ALLSTAR said:

I agree. MUSGO'S AT4 appears to be factory, and looks good to me .  Can someone with just a 1" or 1.5" level with factory upper a arms get a picture of the ball joint angle like the one Musgo posted for a comparision ?  

Only reason I’m concerned is the truck came with 285/65 20s.  So I was worried there was a level the dealer added to do so.  

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On 10/26/2020 at 12:59 PM, Mike may said:

The control arms where stock, just ordered ready lift leveling kit with upper control arms designed to change the geometry of the stress on the components especially the control arm and ball joints

Hello I have a 2020 at4 with the 1.75” leveling kit with control arms. On these trucks they recommend control arms with a leveling kit. To keep all the angles right for the cv axel joints etc. I’ve had it in for about 2 months now. Zero problems at all, truck might even ride better. I also have the truck sitting on 22x12 -51 offset with Toyo 33x12.5 

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