Coronavirus

[KARNUT]

48 minutes ago, Ithan Henry said:

I don't mind the playoffs, but the whole playoff point system annoys me.  So you're a fan of having them do pit road like qualifying for the All-Star race.  That would be interesting to see.

It used to be that way. One person gets hurt they stop it. It’s all about car control. Part of racing. They used to able to change engines too. Stopped that too. They’re making it like a video game. I like the format for the next few races. No practice or qualifying. That will be exciting.

[JimCost2014]

3 hours ago, KARNUT said:

pit road speed limits

Like it or not, kind of a necessary evil to save life's

 

Agree with the playoff's and the stage crap 100 percent, don't need, nor do I like it, makes it way to confusing even for veteran fans.

[Grumpy Bear]

5 hours ago, KARNUT said:

I don’t like the play offs, stages or pit road speed limits. They haven’t lost me yet.

They lost me when they were no longer 'stock cars'. So it's been awhile since I Oggled over NASCAR.  Same with NHRA "Pro Stock" has nothing to do with stock but a look. Use to have rules that stated motors needed to be based on CURRENT stock configurations. Use factory platforms and so on. 

 

Still I loved T/F and AA/FC...that is until they started forcing payment above the premium. That is, you buy a dish package to get the channel. Then you have to pay for a premium channel to watch that channel which goes to the final round then you have to pay again to watch final rounds on a web based channel. Yea...greed kills it all eventually. 

 

I watch none of it anymore. The death of Indy was about all I could take. Cookie cutter cars and everyone gets a participation trophy. Children throwing tantrums.....buzzzzzz killerrrrrrrrrrrrrr 

[Ithan Henry]

So on a side note, it looks like Georgia's numbers have been staying steady since their re-opening.  That's a positive.  Looks like the warmer weather is helping keep it under control.  Maybe we'll get lucky up here in the northeast and have some consistent warmer weather so we can open up soon.

[j-ten-ner]

"muzzle full, I'm leaving..."

 

 

"...sh*t, forgot the mask"

 

so long

j-ten-ner

Edited May 16, 2020 by j-ten-ner

[Grumpy Bear]

Why does no one argue over flu death counts? Or any other death count for that matter?  

 

Never heard anyone argue over deaths counts assigned to smoking.

[CamGTP]

Because it's not blown up into the media??

 

What's the avg up to now, like 7,000-8,000 death per day in the US from various causes. We don't know how much more or less that avg has changes because there are less deaths from work related causes, car crashes etc etc. But on the other hand we also don't know how many deaths could have been prevented as this country shifted everything towards covid patients.

 

On the topic of smoking. If you smoked, you knew what you were doing to yourself. People I know never argue about people that die from it, that's their own damn fault. We just argue about why someone that did that to themselves doesn't have to pay a higher price to get health care and things of that nature. They brought the health problems onto themselves and the people that rarely or never have to go to the doctor or hospital still pay what they do.

 

Maybe it could be like car insurance. You drive a Corvette, you are considered a higher risk because it's value is greater and it goes pretty damn fast. The guy in the Civic won't pay what he does. So the smoker is higher risk and should pay more.

[KARNUT]

Some states are changing the way they add the covid 19 deaths. Instead of everything being because of. There’s with or because of.  With so many people, they are learning have it and don’t know it. So if you get hit by a cement truck and have covid 19. You probably died from the truck. 

[Grumpy Bear]

So we trust the CDC to report every other method of death correctly but not COVID-19?

[Turd Ferguson]

Colorado amends coronavirus death count - says fewer have died of COVID-19 than previously thought

https://www.foxnews.com/us/colorado-lowers-coronavirus-death-count

[Cpl_Punishment]

On 5/15/2020 at 2:09 AM, davester said:

So, which "Bible" did you prove to yourself to be "perfect and without error"?  There's the original text, written in a variety of languages, then there are a variety of translations of those texts into other languages, and then some translations of those translations.

 

And I'll just give you the bits that involve predictions of what happens in the future.

Don't forget all the books that didn't make it into the Bible because their theology didn't align with the Council of Nicea's.

[Cpl_Punishment]

On 5/15/2020 at 5:47 AM, Silverado4x4 said:

Tell me all these numbers aint bull$hit, man dies from alcohol poisoning listed as covid due to him having it but it wasn't the cause of death the numbers are being inflated so bad.  Read on.  https://www.foxnews.com/health/colorado-man-died-alcohol-poisoning-death-classified-coronavirus-report

 

One more thing, lets keep religion out of this and stay on topic.

A man gets shot in the chest. He runs back into his burning house, inhaling smoke and carbon monoxide as he goes. The roof collapses on top of him. What killed him? 

[Cpl_Punishment]

8 hours ago, CamGTP said:

Maybe it could be like car insurance. You drive a Corvette, you are considered a higher risk because it's value is greater and it goes pretty damn fast. The guy in the Civic won't pay what he does. So the smoker is higher risk and should pay more.

Don't they already do it that way? My health/ life insurance plan through work has a question on the form for if I'm a smoker or not. 

[CamGTP]

Of course some do but you could assume maybe some don't. Say you didn't have life insurance and just health insurance, to me it's easy to lie about being a smoker. A doctor and lie detector test isn't in the room with you when you look at those papers or computer screen. A smoker could just say no they don't smoke and end up saving money. Doing that would be at their own risk and I'd think some would do it.

 

My work has that question and if you say no you get a slight discount, so instead of $90 per pay check it's $65. But it's so easy to lie and that's the problem. I realize the enforcement of this and figure out exactly who does and doesn't would be tough but I think most get what I am after here.

[Cpl_Punishment]

44 minutes ago, CamGTP said:

Of course some do but you could assume maybe some don't. Say you didn't have life insurance and just health insurance, to me it's easy to lie about being a smoker. A doctor and lie detector test isn't in the room with you when you look at those papers or computer screen. A smoker could just say no they don't smoke and end up saving money. Doing that would be at their own risk and I'd think some would do it.

 

My work has that question and if you say no you get a slight discount, so instead of $90 per pay check it's $65. But it's so easy to lie and that's the problem. I realize the enforcement of this and figure out exactly who does and doesn't would be tough but I think most get what I am after here.

But then as soon as you end up in hospital with lung cancer, your insurance company realizes you lied and takes away your coverage.