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This site is getting to be nothing but old men trying to feel like their opinion is important. People like the 2.7T, and those who don't need to get over it. It has a market.

 

If we all put on our business caps for two seconds, we would realize that GM would not invest millions into a gimmick. It simply does not make sense. It has been very obvious for years now that turbo charged engines are going to be the future, along with a mix of other options. General Motors is a very very smart company, they would not throw away money for nothing. Hey Mr., it doesn't pull your trailer. That's OK! That's why you get the bigger engine. Your 5.3 doesnt pull a 30,000 lb tractor... doesnt make your 5.3 a gimmick. It just means you need to invest in a bigger engine. These companies produce what the market tells them to, and you know what? If no one was buying them, they would stop making them. 

 

Look guys, if you dont like something - it's simple - DONT BUY IT! But rest assured, these major companies arent making things for gimmicks, they are making things to take advantage of a piece of the market that they might not yet have secured. 

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well said, except the part about the old guys... cause i resemble that statement!

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2 minutes ago, sharkman said:

well said, except the part about the old guys... cause i resemble that statement!

Exactly, and a good thing for the youngins to remember is what old men lack in youth and enthusiasm they make it up with cunning and treachery.

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Me too Sharkman ?. I’m in my seventies and love this 2.7 turbo beast ?
 

My son has a logging business and pulls 30-40 thousand pounds or better. I doubt my 2.7 turbo can pull one of his trailers. Guess what, I didn’t buy my Silverado for that ?

 

There is a definite market for this engine. Die hard V8 old timers better get used to it. This is wave of the future of internal combustion engine. 

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1 hour ago, Nala said:

Me too Sharkman ?. I’m in my seventies and love this 2.7 turbo beast ?
 

My son has a logging business and pulls 30-40 thousand pounds or better. I doubt my 2.7 turbo can pull one of his trailers. Guess what, I didn’t buy my Silverado for that ?

 

There is a definite market for this engine. Die hard V8 old timers better get used to it. This is wave of the future of internal combustion engine. 

Didn't mean to rant, I just get tired of people saying something is stupid just because they dont have a use for it. No one is debating anything here, just talking about their purchase. 

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7 hours ago, 2020SilveradoCC said:

OK BOOMER

A boomer who built a 2002 GTP coup out to 450 hp.  

 

So i know BOOST. 

 

I would not call the 2.7 a gimmick if it towed what the V8 is pulling.

 

Ford did it.. GM dropped the ball...

 

 

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17 minutes ago, BigBadSierra said:

A boomer who built a 2002 GTP coup out to 450 hp.  

 

So i know BOOST. 

 

I would not call the 2.7 a gimmick if it towed what the V8 is pulling.

 

Ford did it.. GM dropped the ball...

 

 

Ford built a completely different engine. Also, why would GM build the exact same thing Ford built?

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If you want moderate towing ability and a bit better fuel mileage the 2.7 is fine.  But it’s of no use to people who need their trucks to pull.heavy trailers.  This is especially crucial with how expensive HD are now.   

Posted
2 hours ago, BigBadSierra said:

If you want moderate towing ability and a bit better fuel mileage the 2.7 is fine.  But it’s of no use to people who need their trucks to pull.heavy trailers.  This is especially crucial with how expensive HD are now.   

Yes, it’s definitely not a heavy duty truck. For a heavy duty truck, you would definitely need the heavy duty :)
 

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On 4/21/2020 at 12:51 PM, 2020SilveradoCC said:

This site is getting to be nothing but old men trying to feel like their opinion is important. People like the 2.7T, and those who don't need to get over it. It has a market.

 

If we all put on our business caps for two seconds, we would realize that GM would not invest millions into a gimmick. It simply does not make sense. It has been very obvious for years now that turbo charged engines are going to be the future, along with a mix of other options. General Motors is a very very smart company, they would not throw away money for nothing. Hey Mr., it doesn't pull your trailer. That's OK! That's why you get the bigger engine. Your 5.3 doesnt pull a 30,000 lb tractor... doesnt make your 5.3 a gimmick. It just means you need to invest in a bigger engine. These companies produce what the market tells them to, and you know what? If no one was buying them, they would stop making them. 

 

Look guys, if you dont like something - it's simple - DONT BUY IT! But rest assured, these major companies arent making things for gimmicks, they are making things to take advantage of a piece of the market that they might not yet have secured. 

Well how about Chevy's opinion? They're not exactly crowing about stuffing a 4 cyl in their full sized trucks. See for yourself in their promo literature and current catalog:

https://www.chevrolet.com/content/dam/chevrolet/na/us/english/index/shopping-tools/download-catalog/02-pdf/2020-silverado-1500-catalog.pdf

 

Nowhere do they mention that their base engine is a four. They hawk that their 4.3l is a V6, the 3.0l is an I6, the 5.3 is a V8 and the 6.2 is a V8.........they only refer to the 2.7l turbo and not a 2.7l I4 turbo. Nowhere! Not arguing performance, a hamster on crack can pull almost as much as a rat, just that I agree, Chevy is likely trying to take advantage of a piece of the market not yet secured, bottom feeders and sucker novice truck buyers who want to buy on the cheap......otherwise why not mention in any of their literature that it is a 4 cylinder which sometimes works as a two. Chevy certainly doesn't have that problem with their Camaros, ditto for the Malibus and Equinox whose literature freely mentions 2.0L Turbo 4-cylinder engine  so apparently they have no problem crowing that they are stuffing a 4 in a car, but forbidden to mention they are selling full sized trucks with a 4cyl. They don't even stuff a 4 in a full sized Traverse....tried it with a 2.0l turbo in one RS which they did advertise as a 4 cyl and buyers stayed away choosing upper and lower lines with the V6. The secondary market not technology will drive the market....true value will be determined as a 3 year trade-in.

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2 hours ago, Thomcat said:

Well how about Chevy's opinion? They're not exactly crowing about stuffing a 4 cyl in their full sized trucks. See for yourself in their promo literature and current catalog:

https://www.chevrolet.com/content/dam/chevrolet/na/us/english/index/shopping-tools/download-catalog/02-pdf/2020-silverado-1500-catalog.pdf

 

Nowhere do they mention that their base engine is a four. They hawk that their 4.3l is a V6, the 3.0l is an I6, the 5.3 is a V8 and the 6.2 is a V8.........they only refer to the 2.7l turbo and not a 2.7l I4 turbo. Nowhere! Not arguing performance, a hamster on crack can pull almost as much as a rat, just that I agree, Chevy is likely trying to take advantage of a piece of the market not yet secured, bottom feeders and sucker novice truck buyers who want to buy on the cheap......otherwise why not mention in any of their literature that it is a 4 cylinder which sometimes works as a two. Chevy certainly doesn't have that problem with their Camaros, ditto for the Malibus and Equinox whose literature freely mentions 2.0L Turbo 4-cylinder engine  so apparently they have no problem crowing that they are stuffing a 4 in a car, but forbidden to mention they are selling full sized trucks with a 4cyl. They don't even stuff a 4 in a full sized Traverse....tried it with a 2.0l turbo in one RS which they did advertise as a 4 cyl and buyers stayed away choosing upper and lower lines with the V6. The secondary market not technology will drive the market....true value will be determined as a 3 year trade-in.

This is easy. Public perception. Your response is case and point why they don’t flaunt it. Because people who have no need for it and have never even driven one think a 4 cylinder shouldn’t be in a truck. Hence, they refer to it as a turbo.... all business. Turbo sells more than 4 cylinder... 

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7 hours ago, 2020SilveradoCC said:

This is easy. Public perception. Your response is case and point why they don’t flaunt it. Because people who have no need for it and have never even driven one think a 4 cylinder shouldn’t be in a truck. Hence, they refer to it as a turbo.... all business. Turbo sells more than 4 cylinder... 

Yeah, I agree. When I was looking for a 2020 Silverado I spotted mine and didn't notice it was a four cylinder. All the others were 5.3.

I went back to the dealer and requested a test drive and fell in love with it. It was so much improved over my 2014 Silverado.

The salesman told me he could tell that I didn't realize it was a four cylinder.

I hadn't. I then read the sticker and saw it. I was shocked.

If I had noticed that before the drive I would have walked away but after I drove it I was in love with it.

Made an offer and now it's mine. I'm really happy with it.

If you are looking for a new truck be sure to test drive the 2.7T. I'm pretty sure you will like it.

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