Gas Prices

[KARNUT]

13 minutes ago, Atlas said:

 

If migrants are stealing all your jobs and buying up all the houses, they're not contributing to poverty in Texas. Sorry, can't have it both ways in fantasyland pal.

 

America has been weakened, our nation is ridiculed, unemployment has risen and job creation is negative, inflation is still above target and was above target all year, GDP is downtariffs have cost us all, and we have a demented clown for a president... bUt aT lEaShT gAs PriCeS are LoWeR.

 

Things are fine for me, but I'm not some fake-ass Christian, I actually worry what this does to our poor and vulnerable.

 

 

Nice little fantasy world you live in of negativity. I’m sorry you live in such a depressing situation of high prices and Taxes. My son sells homes for builders. He recently went from selling solar panels back to real estate. He had several builders wanting him. They all say business is booming. Next year is going to be a record year. It took him less than two days to get his new job. My old equipment company is booming. It’s nationwide. So where ever you’re depressed area may be. Sorry about that. 

[customboss]

2 hours ago, KARNUT said:

It’s coming down where it matters to me

Believe it or not it’s not about YOU. 
Thank Yaweh 

[customboss]

1 hour ago, KARNUT said:

Nice little fantasy world you live in of negativity. I’m sorry you live in such a depressing situation of high prices and Taxes. My son sells homes for builders. He recently went from selling solar panels back to real estate. He had several builders wanting him. They all say business is booming. Next year is going to be a record year. It took him less than two days to get his new job. My old equipment company is booming. It’s nationwide. So where ever you’re depressed area may be. Sorry about that. 

@Atlas Stan is a reasonably good person but he’s not capable of intelligent discussions that don’t impact his little world. Outside that he’s pretty much a stuffed monkey doll. 

[KARNUT]

21 minutes ago, customboss said:

@Atlas Stan is a reasonably good person but he’s not capable of intelligent discussions that don’t impact his little world. Outside that he’s pretty much a stuffed monkey doll. 

Nasty man continues. He continues to pollute threads when the OP asks him to stay original to the theme. Nasty man. At least he found a new Debbie Downer to play with. They’ll soon will be at odds, a common theme. Entertaining it is.

[Atlas]

5 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

Nasty man continues. He continues to pollute threads when the OP asks him to stay original to the theme. Nasty man. At least he found a new Debbie Downer to play with. They’ll soon will be at odds, a common theme. Entertaining it is.

 

Doubt it. I don't agree with everyone on everything. That would be boring. I tend to get along with people who can spot obvious lies and deception, from all walks of life.

[KARNUT]

6 minutes ago, Atlas said:

 

Doubt it. I don't agree with everyone on everything. That would be boring. I tend to get along with people who can spot obvious lies and deception, from all walks of life.

Or make them up to serve their narrative.

[customboss]

1 hour ago, Atlas said:

 

Doubt it. I don't agree with everyone on everything. That would be boring. I tend to get along with people who can spot obvious lies and deception, from all walks of life.

Same 

[Atlas]

2 hours ago, KARNUT said:

Or make them up to serve their narrative.

 

Like an inflation report that only includes gas prices and car sales?

 

[KARNUT]

42 minutes ago, Atlas said:

 

Like an inflation report that only includes gas prices and car sales?

 

And the beat goes on 

[Atlas]

Woke up and gas still isn't $2.

 

Gas tax in CA is 0.61 per gallon. I wonder where the extra cost goes?

 

[customboss]

6 minutes ago, Atlas said:

Woke up and gas still isn't $2.

 

Gas tax in CA is 0.61 per gallon. I wonder where the extra cost goes?

 

Oh stop reality! The earth is the sun didn’t you know? 🫩

[txab]

 

Also:

 

As of July 2025, the gasoline tax in California is 61.2 cents per gallon. Additionally, Californians pay various other taxes and fees, bringing the total tax burden on gasoline to nearly 90 cents per gallon.

 

 

abc7.com California State Portal

 

California Gasoline Tax Rates

Current Tax Rates

Type of Tax	Rate (per gallon)
State Excise Tax	$0.612
Federal Motor Fuel Tax	$0.184
Sales Tax	2.25% (plus local district taxes)

Additional Costs

• Low Carbon Fuel Standard: Adds approximately $0.47 per gallon.
• Cap-and-Trade Program: Adds about $0.30 per gallon.

Total Tax Burden

Californians pay nearly $0.90 per gallon in taxes and fees, which includes the state excise tax, federal tax, sales tax, and additional costs from environmental regulations.

These taxes contribute to funding road maintenance and infrastructure projects across the state.

 

 

So there is $0.90 that will never change.

 

I wish they would give the prices on the news or other services broken down.

Cali retailers have to try and make more off each gallon to pay for all the higher costs of Cali than say some other areas. Having been in the retail fuel dispensing business, it's not easy to make a buck. You make  money on the price changes. The big jump and the slow slide back down

 

For nationwide comparison, I'd like to see just the base cost for fuel product. Only way to do apples to apples, imo

[Atlas]

8 minutes ago, txab said:

 

Also:

 

As of July 2025, the gasoline tax in California is 61.2 cents per gallon. Additionally, Californians pay various other taxes and fees, bringing the total tax burden on gasoline to nearly 90 cents per gallon.

 

 

abc7.com California State Portal

 

California Gasoline Tax Rates

Current Tax Rates

Type of Tax	Rate (per gallon)
State Excise Tax	$0.612
Federal Motor Fuel Tax	$0.184
Sales Tax	2.25% (plus local district taxes)

Additional Costs

• Low Carbon Fuel Standard: Adds approximately $0.47 per gallon.
• Cap-and-Trade Program: Adds about $0.30 per gallon.

Total Tax Burden

Californians pay nearly $0.90 per gallon in taxes and fees, which includes the state excise tax, federal tax, sales tax, and additional costs from environmental regulations.

These taxes contribute to funding road maintenance and infrastructure projects across the state.

 

 

So there is $0.90 that will never change.

 

I wish they would give the prices on the news or other services broken down.

Cali retailers have to try and make more off each gallon to pay for all the higher costs of Cali than say some other areas. Having been in the retail fuel dispensing business, it's not easy to make a buck. You make  money on the price changes. The big jump and the slow slide back down

 

For nationwide comparison, I'd like to see just the base cost for fuel product. Only way to do apples to apples, imo

 

Those prices are from Palm Springs which does not add any additional tax on the base other than 0.61 state and 0.18 federal. This is true, CA participates in Cap and Trade and they require low carbon fuels.

 

0.61 state + 0.18 federal + 0.47 LCFS + 0.30 CT = $1.56 in state/federal and carbon programs.

 

So subtract $1.56 from $4.39 (lowest price in the list I posted). Gas is still $2.83 gallon base price. Add 0.18 back because all states pay federal tax and the base is then $3.01.

 

The math ain't mathin' when it's still a dollar higher in the World's 4th Largest Economy compared to Texas.

 

 

[KARNUT]

17 minutes ago, Atlas said:

 

Those prices are from Palm Springs which does not add any additional tax on the base other than 0.61 state and 0.18 federal. This is true, CA participates in Cap and Trade and they require low carbon fuels.

 

0.61 state + 0.18 federal + 0.47 LCFS + 0.30 CT = $1.56 in state/federal and carbon programs.

 

So subtract $1.56 from $4.39 (lowest price in the list I posted). Gas is still $2.83 gallon base price. Add 0.18 back because all states pay federal tax and the base is then $3.01.

 

The math ain't mathin' when it's still a dollar higher in the World's 4th Largest Economy compared to Texas.

 

 

I personally haven’t seen under 2$. I paid 2.19 yesterday. Two miles down the road I’ve seen 2.49. At the interstate I saw 2.11. Do I believe in some areas it’s under 2$. Sure. Do I think those stations are using gas as a lost leader? No. Generally do I believe cost overall are trending down, yes. The current formula has always paid off in about 13 months from the initial inception. 

[Atlas]

4 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

I personally haven’t seen under 2$. I paid 2.19 yesterday. Two miles down the road I’ve seen 2.49. At the interstate I saw 2.11. Do I believe in some areas it’s under 2$. Sure. Do I think those stations are using gas as a lost leader? No. Generally do I believe cost overall are trending down, yes. The current formula has always paid off in about 13 months from the initial inception. 

 

The stations reporting the lowest prices in the nation (rumored to be Lubbock, Tx) do use fuel as loss leaders. It's Walmart and Costco and they subsidize the price of fuel as part of their memberships and store models. But OK, you're right.