OCI, not when but why?

[Chuck FB]

2 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

I don’t know if it’s my beautiful imposing physical appearance.Or my knowledge of everything automotive. Or my vetting process. Or my ability to spot B.S. That’s definitely been sharpened after joining this website. Or I’m just lucky. I’ve had very good luck with dealerships.

 

Hang on there for a sec, so your not going to admit that the dealerships you go to just happens to have extremely attractive young women that know just how to smile and batt their fake eye lashes at the older gentlemen and that the the young lady servicing .... your vehicle that is, is wearing the latest in women's cover next to nothing alls 

[KARNUT]

Just now, Chuck FB said:

 

Hang on there for a sec, so your not going to admit that the dealerships you go to just happens to have extremely attractive young women that know just how to smile and batt their fake eye lashes at the older gentlemen and that the the young lady servicing .... your vehicle that is, is wearing the latest in women's cover next to nothing alls 

I’m a normal male of the human species. But luckily for me I married the prettiest girl in the room almost 52 years ago. And she’s weathered well. My father said to me at a young age. You want to see how your future wife will turn out? Look at her mother. Her mother still looks good and both have great personalities. Her brothers are my best friends. 

[Atlas]

1 hour ago, KARNUT said:

I get a chuckle when people say they don’t trust the dealer. The fact that can do things themselves for service. Should make checking on service centers easy for mistakes. 

 

I have a lift and tools, so it makes most work easy. If it's something I can't do, or don't want to do, then it goes to a dealer. I can usually save myself time, hassle, money by doing my own work. And there's some enjoyment or satisfaction for me in the process.

 

I don't urge others to absolutely trust or distrust dealers. Best thing you can do is arrive with knowledge of the manufacturer's recommended maintenance schedules, and knowing the health of your own vehicle. Dealers are there to make money, techs are only human and they're racing a clock to make a bigger paycheck. It's not a model that puts safety or perfection first.

[KARNUT]

21 minutes ago, Atlas said:

 

I have a lift and tools, so it makes most work easy. If it's something I can't do, or don't want to do, then it goes to a dealer. I can usually save myself time, hassle, money by doing my own work. And there's some enjoyment or satisfaction for me in the process.

 

I don't urge others to absolutely trust or distrust dealers. Best thing you can do is arrive with knowledge of the manufacturer's recommended maintenance schedules, and knowing the health of your own vehicle. Dealers are there to make money, techs are only human and they're racing a clock to make a bigger paycheck. It's not a model that puts safety or perfection first.

Funny you mention that. 20 years ago while I was deep into collecting cars. I had the garage monopolized. My 94 Impala was in there and a 65 elcamino. Where the rent house is now was going to be a three car shop with a small apartment. My wife was big into eBay. Garage sales on Saturday then eBay during the week. The apartment was going to be for eBay work and a big window overlooking the garage. Where I’d be working on my toys. We had a builder sitting at the kitchen table planning all this out. All the sudden my wife said let’s make this into our retirement home and rent it out until then. You can just keep going in the garage next to the house. Twenty some years later I lost interest in collecting cars and restoring. She has the collector car and sports sedan. Along with the garage. I now drive Hondas. How the heck did that happen? I always thought my wife sees the future. 

Edited December 22, 2025 by KARNUT

[customboss]

1 hour ago, KARNUT said:

I don’t know if it’s my beautiful imposing physical appearance.Or my knowledge of everything automotive. Or my vetting process. Or my ability to spot B.S. That’s definitely been sharpened after joining this website. Or I’m just lucky. I’ve had very good luck with dealerships.

It’s your legs.  

[OnTheReel]

2 hours ago, KARNUT said:

I get a chuckle when people say they don’t trust the dealer. The fact that can do things themselves for service. Should make checking on service centers easy for mistakes.

Finding their mistakes is easy but that doesn’t make it any more convenient to do repeat visits so they can correct them. I guess I don’t value the free coffee and popcorn enough to put myself through that anymore.

The vast majority of these dealers don’t care one bit about anyone no matter how much you’ve spent. Look how they’ve acted over the last 5+ years and tell me you do trust them without chuckling.

Edited December 22, 2025 by OnTheReel

[KARNUT]

Just now, OnTheReel said:

Finding their mistakes is easy but that doesn’t make it any more convenient to do repeat visits so they can correct them. I guess I don’t value the free coffee and popcorn enough to put myself through that anymore.

The vast majority of these dealers don’t care one bit about anyone no matter how much you’ve spent. Look how they’ve acted over the last 5+ years and tell me you do trust them without chucking.

I’ve been going to the same ones for over 20 years. I used to buy Fords. I left because of the service and switched to GMC-Hyundai. My wife bought a 2001 Acura that put me at Honda. The service at those are pretty good. Both places I can watch them work. The coupons they send make it a no brainer. I must be lucky.

[customboss]

50 minutes ago, OnTheReel said:

Finding their mistakes is easy but that doesn’t make it any more convenient to do repeat visits so they can correct them. I guess I don’t value the free coffee and popcorn enough to put myself through that anymore.

The vast majority of these dealers don’t care one bit about anyone no matter how much you’ve spent. Look how they’ve acted over the last 5+ years and tell me you do trust them without chuckling.

That’s because the manufacturers don’t care about dealers and they both are separated by law. 

[customboss]

46 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

I’ve been going to the same ones for over 20 years. I used to buy Fords. I left because of the service and switched to GMC-Hyundai. My wife bought a 2001 Acura that put me at Honda. The service at those are pretty good. Both places I can watch them work. The coupons they send make it a no brainer. I must be lucky.

Find a good dealer use em. Leave the bad ones. Good medicine. 

[Atlas]

3 hours ago, KARNUT said:

Funny you mention that. 20 years ago while I was deep into collecting cars. I had the garage monopolized. My 94 Impala was in there and a 65 elcamino. Where the rent house is now was going to be a three car shop with a small apartment. My wife was big into eBay. Garage sales on Saturday then eBay during the week. The apartment was going to be for eBay work and a big window overlooking the garage. Where I’d be working on my toys. We had a builder sitting at the kitchen table planning all this out. All the sudden my wife said let’s make this into our retirement home and rent it out until then. You can just keep going in the garage next to the house. Twenty some years later I lost interest in collecting cars and restoring. She has the collector car and sports sedan. Along with the garage. I now drive Hondas. How the heck did that happen? I always thought my wife sees the future. 

 

Well when your wife keeps your balls in her purse for that long, I guess that's what happens.

[KARNUT]

31 minutes ago, Atlas said:

 

Well when your wife keeps your balls in her purse for that long, I guess that's what happens.

Gee, you must be going for the nasty man title. I got everything I wanted. She was partly responsible. It’s called a partnership.

[customboss]

3 hours ago, KARNUT said:

nasty

Oh lord 

[Grumpy Bear]

12 hours ago, diyer2 said:

 

I like a good echo  

[customboss]

On 12/22/2025 at 8:03 PM, Grumpy Bear said:

 

I like a good echo  

As long as you agree with “ the science” 

[Grumpy Bear]

On 12/31/2025 at 1:05 PM, customboss said:

As long as you agree with “ the science” 

 

An alligator is wearing a green suit and shades. I laugh and remark on how difficult it must be for the gator to dress himself and comment so. Everyone knows what an alligator is and yet fully half the respondents will declare it to be a kangaroo. Will rasp on for pages in some ridiculous irrational attempt to 'Say a thing in to Truth'. Create 'new' science, redefine natural law.... Attempts to discredit anyone who plainly sees the gator (truth)...Very popular these days in all circles. Figures don't lie but liars figure and if you can't tell the difference it's felt that it's worth promoting for who know what reasons. I am no longer interested in exploring those irrational reasonings. 

 

 That's some serious cray-cray.