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I can't argue with your reasoning. If I was in your position I'm sure I'd make the same choice if I could. As I realized only when it was upon me, growing old is tough work. And not for sissies.

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On 10/10/2024 at 10:02 AM, TrueBlue said:

Corn cob, Sears & Roebuck Catalogue, Charmin, water. I'll stick with door number three for the few years I have left. Barring any physical limitations brought on by injury or surgery. Glad you found a workable solution.

You haven't lived unless you've had to resort to cheat grass or bunch grass. I grew up on a small dry-land wheat and cattle ranch in e. wash. state. In my preteen years it was often my responsibility to "ride fence" to check on the cattle while Dad was on the tractor. After a couple of episodes of grass in the ass it dawned on me why dad always threw a roll of toilet paper in a saddle bag before he ever left the barnyard on horseback. Now you know where the term "just fell off the turnip truck" emanated from.

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On 9/29/2024 at 2:02 PM, KARNUT said:

But the problem is they want to be taken seriously when it comes to research and knowledge. Why in the hell would someone pick a vehicle that’s obviously a turd. So, with a chuckle I’ll follow along.

 

:crackup:Interesting word OBVIOUSLY. Says, "Without looking", I know it's a turd and it's the 'without looking' part that makes me smile when we are so picky about the word 'research'. :crackup:It also assumes I didn't do any and yet I spent a year researching this car BEFORE I bought it. 

 

Joint the Mirage/Space Star Forum and poke around. You will find this worldwide enthusiast forum full of these little cars with well over 300K miles on them. One particular Canadian has a FLEET of them for a delivery service.

CANDADA? Big Bear Mitsubishi in the Twin Cites has on display one of them at the dealership at 400K. :rollin:

 

The 3A9* motor line is as simple as it gets. MPFI. No GDI. Water pump is not located inside the crankcase area. Carries more oil per liter displacement than any GM Ecotec 3 motor and has an ingenious cooling system. Coil on plug ignition. Mikuni Throttle body. A two speed CVT rated at 180 pounds feet torque behind a motor that makes about 80. Falling off a log 50 mpg. Seat is more comfortable than a new Silverado. Cheapest models have Climate control and cruise control, ABS, EPS, T/C and forward braking and Apple car play/Android and... and... and... AND I can buy three for the price of a new WT. 

 

What is OBVIOUS after doing my research is that you have spoken without knowledge about both the car and me. 🫣 

 

How serious should I take you? 🤔

 

 

 

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:crackup:Interesting word OBVIOUSLY. Says, "Without looking", I know it's a turd and it's the 'without looking' part that makes me smile when we are so picky about the word 'research'. :crackup:It also assumes I didn't do any and yet I spent a year researching this car BEFORE I bought it. 

 

Joint the Mirage/Space Star Forum and poke around. You will find this worldwide enthusiast forum full of these little cars with well over 300K miles on them. One particular Canadian has a FLEET of them for a delivery service.

CANDADA? Big Bear Mitsubishi in the Twin Cites has on display one of them at the dealership at 400K. :rollin:

 

The 3A9* motor line is as simple as it gets. MPFI. No GDI. Water pump is not located inside the crankcase area. Carries more oil per liter displacement than any GM Ecotec 3 motor and has an ingenious cooling system. Coil on plug ignition. Mikuni Throttle body. A two speed CVT rated at 180 pounds feet torque behind a motor that makes about 80. Falling off a log 50 mpg. Seat is more comfortable than a new Silverado. Cheapest models have Climate control and cruise control, ABS, EPS, T/C and forward braking and Apple car play/Android and... and... and... AND I can buy three for the price of a new WT. 

 

What is OBVIOUS after doing my research is that you have spoken without knowledge about both the car and me. 🫣 

 

How serious should I take you? 🤔

 

 

 

I’m always researching. It’s what I do. I check every entity has done test on vehicles. Then I price compare. I mostly buy certified pre owned from dealers that give me extended warranty. My track record is no failures ever. The oldest still around is a 2005 Elantra GT that’s driven now by my grandson. Through my research the Nissan versa is head and shoulders above the Mirage. And has a lower starting price according to car and driver. Twice the horsepower etc. you can load them up and be at the starting price of the Mirage or very close to it. I would buy a CPO Sentra, Mazda 3, Civic, Corolla if I wanted that size vehicle. In my research your choice is the worse. No doubt you’ll get the most out of it. I hope all your mergers are down hill. At what 80 horse power you’ll need it. I’d just save the money to keep my stuff going rather than drive that probably most boring vehicle ever. I can live with most anything. I rode trip a minivan. At least it does 0-60 in reasonable time. At least in my travels it does matter. Yes you did lose credibly with that purchase. I’m sure you don’t care. I don’t. I wouldn’t drive it, give it away or take it for free. My research bares that out. You can take me seriously, down me, I don’t care. That the worst choice ever.

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^^ You two have a love/hate relationship!  I bet you'd get along well in real life!  I think I'd fit in the mix.  Next time I'm in Texas we should arrange to have coffee and test my theory!   

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Yes you did lose credibly with that purchase. I’m sure you don’t care.

 

Now you're catching on 😉 

 

All your 'research' proved is that you value DIFFERENT things that I do. If I lose credibility with YOU over that, no sir, I don't care. 

 

You failed to notice in your research that ONLY the Versa S manual transmission is significantly cheaper and somewhat of a Unicorn.  And you failed to notice that for the other CVT models it uses the EXACT same transmission as the G4 and yes at twice the torque and power breaks four times more often. Consumes 20% more fuel and last about half as long as noted by ACTUAL users and not some paid for magazine reviewer. 

 

I got this same sort of public flogging when I bought Pepper and for the same reasons. The 4300 was considered a dog. How's that working out for the 5.3/6.2 crowd with their chronic transmission failures and lifter issues. I've spent nothing on breakdown maintenance and get better fuel economy on alcohol than the masses do on gasoline. I don't read those rags. 

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Now you're catching on 😉 

 

All your 'research' proved is that you value DIFFERENT things that I do. If I lose credibility with YOU over that, no sir, I don't care. 

 

You failed to notice in your research that ONLY the Versa S manual transmission is significantly cheaper and somewhat of a Unicorn.  And you failed to notice that for the other CVT models it uses the EXACT same transmission as the G4 and yes at twice the torque and power breaks four times more often. Consumes 20% more fuel and last about half as long as noted by ACTUAL users and not some paid for magazine reviewer. 

 

I got this same sort of public flogging when I bought Pepper and for the same reasons. The 4300 was considered a dog. How's that working out for the 5.3/6.2 crowd with their chronic transmission failures and lifter issues. I've spent nothing on breakdown maintenance and get better fuel economy on alcohol than the masses do on gasoline. I don't read those rags. 

I have family members with Nissans even the Versa. I don’t buy vehicles based on they don’t have enough power to hurt themselves. That’s up to my right foot. Maybe you never see an interstate road. You can tool along at 45 miles per hour. That’s not my life. I don’t see many if any of your brand in my travels. I see many Nissans. I don’t consider a 300hp vehicle a dog. Far from it. When you give your stamp of approval on a product it would do the uninformed a service if you state its intended use. Interstate driving that car at speed would be a miserable experience for most. The engine would be screaming and shaking trying to maintain speed. As noted by test drivers at some of those rags you dismiss. That’s as new. Where while in Orlando I rode around in a cousin’s Versa with zero gravity seats I was impressed. He has 3. Himself, wife and son all have one. My son has a Altima, his daughter has the SUV. All with those zero gravity seats. All with the ability to merge on to an interstate without be tracker trailer meet. Enjoy it. I can’t even imagine. 

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2 hours ago, Donstar said:

^^ You two have a love/hate relationship!  I bet you'd get along well in real life!  I think I'd fit in the mix.  Next time I'm in Texas we should arrange to have coffee and test my theory!   

I guess it ticks me off when someone holds a product as top rated because they have one. I call out the flaws in the stuff I deal with so people can be informed. And make reasonable decisions. That’s the grandfather in me. When someone goes out of their way to build credibility and deserving so. Then drops a turd, I’m thinking what the hell was that. I just express here’s what I would do and why. The piece he’s pushing would put people in jeopardy in my area. Probably why there’s non. Put in the reason why it works for you. Back roads, slow speeds. The rags he dismisses does that. They paid to do the review he says. Well no kidding. 

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KARNUT Senior Enthusiast

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^^ You two have a love/hate relationship!  I bet you'd get along well in real life!  I think I'd fit in the mix.  Next time I'm in Texas we should arrange to have coffee and test my theory!   

You wouldn’t be surprised. I call it as I see it. I’m known and respected for that.

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Grumpy Bear Senior Enthusiast

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I have family members with Nissans even the Versa. I don’t buy vehicles based on they don’t have enough power to hurt themselves. That’s up to my right foot. Maybe you never see an interstate road. You can tool along at 45 miles per hour. That’s not my life. I don’t see many if any of your brand in my travels. I see many Nissans. I don’t consider a 300hp vehicle a dog. Far from it. When you give your stamp of approval on a product it would do the uninformed a service if you state its intended use. Interstate driving that car at speed would be a miserable experience for most. The engine would be screaming and shaking trying to maintain speed. As noted by test drivers at some of those rags you dismiss. That’s as new. Where while in Orlando I rode around in a cousin’s Versa with zero gravity seats I was impressed. He has 3. Himself, wife and son all have one. My son has a Altima, his daughter has the SUV. All with those zero gravity seats. All with the ability to merge on to an interstate without be tracker trailer meet. Enjoy it. I can’t even imagine. 

 

Once again, you define 'better' as whatever your preferences are. In that world the only things that are 'good' are those you say are "good".

 

Ever look up that word Good? Means desirable, and I find it exceedingly selfish to insist on a matter than has zero impact on you that you define what another should desire or find so. Defining them by YOUR expectations. Childlike name-calling and labeling another and their possessions by your scale. Insisting on behaviors meeting your expectations. I didn't realize I was speaking to a god. :wtf: Find a corner and take a timeout. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Once again, you define 'better' as whatever your preferences are. In that world the only things that are 'good' are those you say are "good".

 

Ever look up that word Good? Means desirable, and I find it exceedingly selfish to insist on a matter than has zero impact on you that you define what another should desire or find so. Defining them by YOUR expectations. Childlike name-calling and labeling another and their possessions by your scale. Insisting on behaviors meeting your expectations. I didn't realize I was speaking to a god. :wtf: Find a corner and take a timeout. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I just pointed out the obvious. Not wishful thinking. I only want to know what it’s good for. It’s definitely not everything. I will believe the rags on that one. You seem to buck conventional wisdom. You always have a reason. I don’t see a good one here. I listen about oil change intervals. Because it makes sense. This not so much. 

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As True Blue said, Old Age sneaks up on you. Boy does it ever. I am 68, retired at 57 or I might have done something dangerous to the HR Dept.

 

Have never regretted early retirement and kept busy for several summers mowing roadside ditches for local county. Now for the last 5 years I have ran a combine harvesting in the fall. I just love it and getting back to my roots in agriculture.

 

I don't consider myself real old for sure but I can sure see it over the knoll I am standing on. lol

 

Yesterday I helped an old fellow in Home Depot look for something he couldn't find. Together we found what he was looking for. Kind of made me feel good that I just spontaneously helped him. 

 

Hope someone is there to help me when I am older!

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7 hours ago, Grumpy Bear said:

 

:crackup:Interesting word OBVIOUSLY. Says, "Without looking", I know it's a turd and it's the 'without looking' part that makes me smile when we are so picky about the word 'research'. :crackup:It also assumes I didn't do any and yet I spent a year researching this car BEFORE I bought it. 

 

Joint the Mirage/Space Star Forum and poke around. You will find this worldwide enthusiast forum full of these little cars with well over 300K miles on them. One particular Canadian has a FLEET of them for a delivery service.

CANDADA? Big Bear Mitsubishi in the Twin Cites has on display one of them at the dealership at 400K. :rollin:

 

The 3A9* motor line is as simple as it gets. MPFI. No GDI. Water pump is not located inside the crankcase area. Carries more oil per liter displacement than any GM Ecotec 3 motor and has an ingenious cooling system. Coil on plug ignition. Mikuni Throttle body. A two speed CVT rated at 180 pounds feet torque behind a motor that makes about 80. Falling off a log 50 mpg. Seat is more comfortable than a new Silverado. Cheapest models have Climate control and cruise control, ABS, EPS, T/C and forward braking and Apple car play/Android and... and... and... AND I can buy three for the price of a new WT. 

 

What is OBVIOUS after doing my research is that you have spoken without knowledge about both the car and me. 🫣 

 

How serious should I take you? 🤔

 

 

 

I love your minimalist is more thinking. That’s value. 

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4 hours ago, Donstar said:

^^ You two have a love/hate relationship!  I bet you'd get along well in real life!  I think I'd fit in the mix.  Next time I'm in Texas we should arrange to have coffee and test my theory!   

We all, geezers,  have that relationship. We are entertaining and some reader might learn something.  


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56 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

d. :wtf: Find a corner and take a timeout. 

That’s what @txab does to me frequently!! lol 😂 

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