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Can we call it a failure yet, will GM continue to make a dead end product like this? It is not just nitch but because it is now EV, it is an ultra nitch vehicle! A way over priced and valued one at that! Insane some of the story's you can see on YouTube with guys trying to unload these things but are so far upside down that they are stuck with them, the depreciation on these are insanity. Remember the multiple cheaper models that were suppose to already be released, GM do the right thing and end this monstrosity that no one cares about anymore! 

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There’s advertising here for the Lightning at 299 per month lease. Leasing is the only way I’d do electric. I thought about for about 3 seconds. Not long enough to see what the down payment is. Electric could work for my wife. The mustang isn’t that expensive. I imagine the lease wouldn’t be bad. My garage is detached so ifs there’s a fire ( a real concern) I’d just lose the garage. She said nope. 

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If I could afford a third car for commuting duty, I wouldn't mind electric. But since it would only be for commuting it would have to be at a price point. 

 

Instead, the pricing structure on EV's is at the other end of the spectrum.

 

They can't be the everything to everyone kind of vehicle because no one wants to sit for hours at (unreliable) public chargers while on any drive that doesn't end at your home that night. 

 

It is NOT range anxiety - its who has time for this?

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On 9/25/2025 at 1:15 PM, BIGDOGx said:

Can we call it a failure yet, will GM continue to make a dead end product like this? It is not just nitch but because it is now EV, it is an ultra nitch vehicle! A way over priced and valued one at that! Insane some of the story's you can see on YouTube with guys trying to unload these things but are so far upside down that they are stuck with them, the depreciation on these are insanity. Remember the multiple cheaper models that were suppose to already be released, GM do the right thing and end this monstrosity that no one cares about anymore! 

 

It's "niche". Since the underlying investment is shared with the EV trucks, it's probably still worth producing even if it still sells slowly.

 

5 hours ago, asilverblazer said:

If I could afford a third car for commuting duty, I wouldn't mind electric. But since it would only be for commuting it would have to be at a price point. 

 

Instead, the pricing structure on EV's is at the other end of the spectrum.

 

They can't be the everything to everyone kind of vehicle because no one wants to sit for hours at (unreliable) public chargers while on any drive that doesn't end at your home that night. 

 

It is NOT range anxiety - its who has time for this?

 

What I'm seeing is all the newer, low-mile, heavily depreciated USED ev's are being purchased as commuters. You can pick up a gently used Tesla for $20k.

 

In my experience, the operating costs for an EV are truly much lower than an equivalent gasoline car for duties like a commute and if you can charge at home.

 

It's not going to be tax credits that increases EV adoption, it's going to be these little cars becoming affordable and making their way into the hands of the people who truly need cheap, safe, and reliable transportation.

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I think it’s better at a slow roll. Forcing it before there’s enough charging stations was a mistake. They should produce smaller cheaper vehicles with about 200 miles range as commuter vehicles. If they can do at around 30K they would sell. Just enough charging capacity to fill overnight. 

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I think it is an issue. 

It seems to be an unrealistic product too, just like the original Hummer H2.

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On 9/30/2025 at 7:22 PM, KARNUT said:

I think it’s better at a slow roll. Forcing it before there’s enough charging stations was a mistake. They should produce smaller cheaper vehicles with about 200 miles range as commuter vehicles. If they can do at around 30K they would sell. Just enough charging capacity to fill overnight. 

 

The Chevy Bolt has long been available with a ~250 mile range and ~30k price.

 

It's returning for the 2027 model year at just under $30k, similar range, but should be capable of fast charging.

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9 minutes ago, Atlas said:

 

The Chevy Bolt has long been available with a ~250 mile range and ~30k price.

 

It's returning for the 2027 model year at just under $30k, similar range, but should be capable of fast charging.

The problems are it’s ugly. And the civic among others are cheaper with the cost differential pays for a lifetime of gas. They’ll get there in time. That’s my point.

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Yeah, the resale and depreciation on these things is wild, definitely not looking like a smart buy for most people. It’s crazy that they’re still pushing it when cheaper, more practical EVs are already out there. Feels like GM really misjudged the market with this one.

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22 hours ago, Olivia Grace said:

Feels like GM really misjudged the market with this one.

I think we've come to see that EVERYONE miss-judged the market.

 

Are there any main stream EV's doing well?

 

Wonder how that Cadillac Celestiq Hail Mary (figuratively and literally) is doing?

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What a surprise! A pricey vehicle that restrains you to rarely working charging stations. Because the actual distance you can drive on a charge. Is dependent on pristine weather conditions. We never saw that coming. Actually we did, they didn’t.

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I bet EV's are looking a lot better now that gas prices are going way up again We never saw that coming -- except we did, they didn't. There are plenty of good used EV's on the market at really reasonable prices for those who want them.

 

We're starting to shop for our next EV. Hoping the BMW iX3 is available to order soon.

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1 minute ago, Atlas said:

I bet EV's are looking a lot better now that gas prices are going way up again We never saw that coming -- except we did, they didn't. There are plenty of good used EV's on the market at really reasonable prices for those who want them.

 

We're starting to shop for our next EV. Hoping the BMW i3 is available to order soon.

Not all of us live where gas is 5$ a gallon. Well actually most of us don’t. Gas prices will probably be down before I need my next fill up. Being I have detached garage. I wouldn’t mind having a performance electric vehicle for local driving for my wife. She says no, never. Detach garage you ask? Fires.

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Just now, KARNUT said:

Not all of us live where gas is 5$ a gallon. Well actually most of us don’t. Gas prices will probably be down before I need my next fill up. Being I have detached garage. I wouldn’t mind having a performance electric vehicle for local driving for my wife. She says no, never. Detach garage you ask? Fires.

 

Probably not. But yeah, if you actually owned an EV maybe some of your perceptions would change...

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