More quality out of my 2013 Sierra(Rust)

[VMaxtastic]

Yes, I'm really trying not to bash the brand here. I've erased a lot that I've. But I've seen the differences first hand. They are hard to ignore.

[GuyGene]

I appreciate the guys that are not just telling me to shrug it off. It really seems unacceptable to me. I'd expect these kinds of things from a Kia or Hyundai, not a GM. The cheap leather kills me too. I suppose it will catch up to them eventually, if they keep selling vehicles with sub par quality.

It WILL catch up, VM! It's really simple - basic quality, that's all. Do quality, treat customers fairly, hey, we'll be back! That's all it takes, and is within the realm of truck makers to do at a fair price too.

[bogeypro]

Mine ticks. Annoys the hell out of me. The cab of the truck?!?! My '07 sunroof leaked constantly, but they changed the design. Still avoided a sunroof on this one. What is leaking on your cab???

 

the stop light .... oh that reminds me, the bed lamp on my previous 2011 didn't work. LOL

[VMaxtastic]

Ah yeah. The light on my '07 leaked too. As well as the seal around the onstar antenna AND the sunroof.

[Hilltopper]

I'm starting to think that these trucks just aren't going to hold up in northern climates. My '01 never had any rust whatsoever at the tailgate bottom, even after 10 years and 160,000 miles. Something has surely changed.

[VMaxtastic]

Well the salt on the roads doesn't help, but there is definite premature rust. My '07 had 200,000 km and barely had any rust on the frame

[f5fstop]

Where was your GMC manufactured? Is the first character of the VIN 1 or 3?

If the first character is a 1, is the 11th VIN character a 1 or a Z (1-Flint MI Assembly; Z-Ft. Wayne IN Assembly)

If the first character is a 3, the 11th VIN character should be a G, denoting Silao Mexico Assembly.

 

I'm just curious....

[VMaxtastic]

It's Silao Mexico then.That would explain the lack of quality control.

 

Chinese parts, and built in Mexico.... I probably wouldn't care if I was getting paid in Pesos either.

[Sir Dan]

According to the VIN, my 2008 GMC was built in Canada. Wonder if they still do of if they are all either Indiana or mexico now.

[RyanbabZ71]

You do know the Silao Mexico plant has most of the highest quality ratings right? It has been posted before.

[MikeNH]

According to the VIN, my 2008 GMC was built in Canada. Wonder if they still do of if they are all either Indiana or mexico now.

 

The trucks aren't. The Camaro is and I think the Impala and some of the crossovers maybe?

[SLong]

Sucks your having problems, but the boys down in Silao did a good job putting mine together.

['01LS1]

I hate that you are having all the issues on this truck. May be a good reason to push your dealer for a deal on a 14 & sell yours out right once fixed up under warranty?

 

Before getting my 13 I was bound & determined to buy a F150 or Ram. Well kept going back & forth each week between the three brands. But the more looking & reading in all the places the fan boys were absent, nothing was different. All had some rust issues, electronic glitches(major), knocking/ticking engines, trans issues, leaking third brake lights, body panels/bumpers not aligned at the factory, paint popping/too much dirt in the paint, non responsive dealers to complaints & on & on...

 

There was not one perfect branded truck, turns out to be a crap shoot in terms of quality. You can go to JD Powers & see complaints per 100 per brand for reference as well.

 

So all that said, I have owned four GM trucks previous to this one & only one ever shut down on the road. A 1992 that got some moisture in the distributor cap. The last two were duallys('04.5 LLY & a '07LBZ) that were used in a transport business. Both made trips anywhere between New Jersey to California. Not one mechanical failure with exception to some crap fuel & a road side fuel filter in New Mexico one time.

 

Are GM trucks perfect? No

Could quality be better? Yes

 

Do I trust them mechanically to not leave me stranded or on a hook? Yes, & that is why a '13 is in my garage. That & fear of the 14/15 increasing in real world out the door price.

[f5fstop]

It's Silao Mexico then.That would explain the lack of quality control.

 

Chinese parts, and built in Mexico.... I probably wouldn't care if I was getting paid in Pesos either.

I was curious, but the Silao MX plant has higher quality than either the Ft. Wayne and especially the Flint plant (and Oshawa ON had...sorry). And those Chinese parts are on all silverados; regardless of where it was made. This has been pretty common theme. Saturn VUE, originally manufactured in Springhill was sent to Ramos Arizpe MX and the quality went up considerably.

 

Oshawa truck assembly was closed in 2009.

 

Not knocking any plant, just saying that it does not matter where an item is made, it depends on how well QC is at the plant. And for some reason, in the past six to seven years, GM has had better QC, as a norm, in their USA/Canadian plants. This is not per outside studies, this was and is due to inside GM quality studies. Probably one reason why many of us think GM will end up, in ten or so years, back where they were before their BK. They really have not learned. (Hope that is not true, but....).

 

A good example is Saturn Corp. When Skip Lefauve was President Saturn had great QC, in the later years when Hudler took over for a short time quality started to fall; then Cynthia Trudell came in and quality started going up, but then GM slammed down the heavy hammer and Saturn started to fall like a lead brick. And Saturn, although an actual separate corporation wholly owned by GM, was small enough to say the President was actually involved pretty heavily in day-to-day operations since his office was across the Parkway, in the Northfield office building, from the Spring Hill Plant.. .

 

 

 

[VMaxtastic]

Interesting. Well I have a feeling the dealer its going to tomorrow is going to get everything done right. Haven't really been a fan of the one I bought the truck from since day 1. It's more how it all played out. I haven considered trying to use this experience as leverage on a '14, but I doubt it'll work. I'll lose a ton of money.