Cummins producing V8 5.0L Diesel engine.

LaserBlueZ71 · October 6, 2013

http://www.trucknews.com/news/cummins-to-launch-five-litre-v8-engine/1002636550/

BlackZ71Silverado · October 6, 2013

Interesting, should be a great engine.

SouthCo · October 7, 2013

I think its great. Would love GM to put one in the suvs or 1500s. Even if it were a scaled down 6.6.

LaserBlueZ71 · October 8, 2013

If anything I think it's good to give GM some competition. I don't like Cummins, never have, likely never will. However, competition like this is healthy. GM has no choice but to step up their game, even if it comes late like always! Dodge has already promised a diesel in the half tons, the other 2 will have to fall in line as well.

KMGZ400 · October 8, 2013

the van could be a potential great seller... if it gets good MPG.... there is a desperate need of a fullsize van that gets 20+MPG that isnt a crappy sprinter. closest thing is a nissan NV right now which dosent get the best MPG

Bassboats · November 1, 2013

GM had a small-block "Duramax" ready for production in 1/2-tons back in 2008 (supposedly for 2009 models) but, like the other manu's, they put it back on the to-do shelf when the economy tanked. With Nissan and Ram coming into the 2014/2015 market with their 1/2-ton diesels it pushes GM to do the same--and sooner than later.

Junkyard33 · November 6, 2013

As much as I dig Cummins, their reputation when it comes to V8s isn't sterling. The words "Triple Nickel" ring in my head, but perhaps Cummins has changed their approach.

'01LS1 · November 7, 2013

In the class 8 truck market, if you want a factory Paccar product (Peterbilt, Kenworth) you have the choice of either Cummins or the in house Paccar MX motor. The latter is new to the US market & there are a lot of Cummins powered trucks with 2-3 hundred thousand miles on them that have already been opened up for new cylinder packs/rings/valves etc. This is mostly due to issues with ever increasing EPA regs in addition to raising cost to purchase.

While the pick up & class 8 market are different applications, I would wait YEARS to see what the track record before being on the hook to fix one.

Daryl LBZ · November 7, 2013

In the class 8 truck market, if you want a factory Paccar product (Peterbilt, Kenworth) you have the choice of either Cummins or the in house Paccar MX motor. The latter is new to the US market & there are a lot of Cummins powered trucks with 2-3 hundred thousand miles on them that have already been opened up for new cylinder packs/rings/valves etc. This is mostly due to issues with ever increasing EPA regs in addition to raising cost to purchase.

While the pick up & class 8 market are different applications, I would wait YEARS to see what the track record before being on the hook to fix one.

Detroit Diesel engines no longer available?

'01LS1 · November 8, 2013

Detroit Diesel engines no longer available?

Yes, but you have to buy a Freightliner/Western Star product to get it. Somewhere around 2004 the mfg's started the switch to in house motors for their trucks. CAT & Cummins were the sole engine mfg's that were a option amongst the physical truck mfg's. CAT was fed up with the EPA regs & announced they were leaving the on highway market in 2007/08 at that round of elevated emission regs.

All that said, a interesting "what if" question is that GM orginated Detroit Diesel. What if they had NOT sold it to Daimler Chrysler & put a Detroit instead of a Duramax in its trucks? If they only would have produced a 6 liter version of the series 60, the notoriety alone would have gained mass market share. Again it is a what if...

http://www.demanddetroit.com/about/history.aspx

Daryl LBZ · November 8, 2013

Detroit Diesel engines no longer available?

Yes, but you have to buy a Freightliner/Western Star product to get it. Somewhere around 2004 the mfg's started the switch to in house motors for their trucks. CAT & Cummins were the sole engine mfg's that were a option amongst the physical truck mfg's. CAT was fed up with the EPA regs & announced they were leaving the on highway market in 2007/08 at that round of elevated emission regs.

All that said, a interesting "what if" question is that GM orginated Detroit Diesel. What if they had NOT sold it to Daimler Chrysler & put a Detroit instead of a Duramax in its trucks? If they only would have produced a 6 liter version of the series 60, the notoriety alone would have gained mass market share. Again it is a what if...

http://www.demanddetroit.com/about/history.aspx

Oh that's right. I remember now watching something on Speed Channel about the manufacturing of Freightliners at their plant, and they mentioned that Freightliner actually owns Detroit Diesel.

As for CAT I remember them announcing back then that they were leaving the over the road diesel market. I understand why, but it sucks that they left the market. Dad owned an 03 T-600 with a 500 CAT in it, and that truck was a beast!

kstruckcountry · November 8, 2013

I'm not a Cummins fan. The Dodge trucks aren't put together that great, and the Cummins is an expensive diesel engine to work on IMO. Everyone has them for reliability, but they sure spend a lot of time in the shop for being reliable.

KMGZ400 · November 8, 2013

I'm not a Cummins fan. The Dodge trucks aren't put together that great, and the Cummins is an expensive diesel engine to work on IMO. Everyone has them for reliability, but they sure spend a lot of time in the shop for being reliable.

they are good engines but a lot more hyped up then they really are.. hopefully no cummins owner sees this or they will probably go nuts..

sdeeter19555 · November 8, 2013

I'm not a Cummins fan. The Dodge trucks aren't put together that great, and the Cummins is an expensive diesel engine to work on IMO. Everyone has them for reliability, but they sure spend a lot of time in the shop for being reliable.

They don't have any more issues than any of the other diesels currently offered by the Big 3...I had several Cummins' prior to this Silverado, only the common rail gave me any real issues (injectors)...the others (12-valves and early 24-valves) went 300k+ without a single repair. They all have their quirks. Cummins' don't cost that much to repair, if you take them to a Cummins shop...forget taking them to Dodge, or you WILL pay for that engine.

Its funny that you hear this kind of dribble on the Dodge forums too...Duramax's suck, PowerStrokes suck, etc. I'm sure the Ford guys talk dribble about the Cummins and Duramax too.

Again, they all have their quirks...picking the one that has quirks you're willing to live with is the key.

MikeNH · November 8, 2013

they are good engines but a lot more hyped up then they really are.. hopefully no cummins owner sees this or they will probably go nuts..

The Cummins guys do seem to be extra passionate about their motor.

A friend of mine with an LBZ Duramax says a guy where he works actually said "six in a row, good to tow" while preaching about the superiority of Cummins.