Silvern Sentry Posted September 8, 2016 Posted September 8, 2016 (edited) Wax is NOT a sealant. Two different animals.carnuba wax is a sealant. Been detailing for years it is most used type. http://www.autogeek.net/qude101 ammo nyc does a good video on the difference between carnuba wax and a synthetic sealent. A good wax is better overall imo if you do it yourself. better finish and easier to redo, just wash with dish soap or another that will strip the wax and reapply in a couple hours. Make sure to use an auto soap that says will not strip wax between. Not knocking the sealants depending on your mileage is may be better for you if you want a longer lasting and dont care about finish aka do not want that showroom look. But generally you should use one or the other not both as they are both a final step. Edited September 8, 2016 by Alpine Truck Life
bwilloby46 Posted September 8, 2016 Posted September 8, 2016 carnuba wax is a sealant. Been detailing for years it is most used type. http://www.autogeek.net/qude101 Congratulations on the long time detailing gig. Everyone details differently. Being a longtime detailer this should be a given as new technologies, techniques, and formulas are introduced. I use a "sealer" such as chemical guys jet seal after polishing and prior to waxing, or straight from claying depending on the finish of the vehicle. Adds longer life protection than just traditional waxing. It's preference and allows me to go longer between details. I as well have detailed for years but understand there is more than traditional ways to detail vehicles. To each there own. Back on topic, that's "what I did to MY k2 today."
cbrsilv15 Posted September 8, 2016 Posted September 8, 2016 carnuba wax is a sealant. Been detailing for years it is most used type. http://www.autogeek.net/qude101 ammo nyc does a good video on the difference between carnuba wax and a synthetic sealent. A good wax is better overall imo if you do it yourself. better finish and easier to redo, just wash with dish soap or another that will strip the wax and reapply in a couple hours. Make sure to use an auto soap that says will not strip wax between. Not knocking the sealants depending on your mileage is may be better for you if you want a longer lasting and dont care about finish aka do not want that showroom look. But generally you should use one or the other not both as they are both a final step. What's your deal man? You're always splitting hairs trying to be correct. I've been detailing for years also. Wax is not a sealant. They are different. A wax typically adds a layer of gloss for a couple of weeks, where as a sealant adds a layer of chemical protection that typically lasts 3-6 months. 3
Silvern Sentry Posted September 8, 2016 Posted September 8, 2016 (edited) What's your deal man? You're always splitting hairs trying to be correct. I've been detailing for years also. Wax is not a sealant. They are different. A wax typically adds a layer of gloss for a couple of weeks, where as a sealant adds a layer of chemical protection that typically lasts 3-6 months. dafaq. so sorry for having an opinion different from yours. And showing you some sources. feel free to ignore it if you like but perhaps others like correct info. For the record if you have been waxing on top of sealant you have been doing it wrong for years but do not take my word for it go ask a pro. It is your truck though afterall and just a truck you can paint it hot pink and use spray on turtle wax or none for all I care. Edited September 8, 2016 by Alpine Truck Life
cbrsilv15 Posted September 8, 2016 Posted September 8, 2016 Not only do I detail my own vehicle, but I do others as a side thing and have been doing it for years. No need to ask a "pro". I know the difference, because there is one. There's nothing wrong with stripping a vehicle, clay bar, polish, sealant on the paint and follow up with wax last. A sealant is supposed to go onto the bare paint as a protective coating. Depending on which sealant you use, you let it haze up in 30 mins and wipe off. Wait 12-24 hrs and then apply another coat of sealant OR wax to top it off. 1
cbrsilv15 Posted September 8, 2016 Posted September 8, 2016 (edited) "Can wax be applied over a sealant? Yes, if you have allowed the sealant to air dry for a few hours to let the cross linking molecules form. But why do it? The only possible reason would be to fill the spider scratches and possibly increase the depth of the shine on a black or dark car. So which is better, a wax or a sealant? If you are looking for durability, then a sealant must be your choice. The best waxes will last maybe 50-60 days, tops. A paint sealant will last up to six months under the best conditions. From a shine point of view, a wax might provide a deeper shine on a dark car because of the greater oil content. This is not to say that a sealant will not shine. Personally, I prefer a paint sealant. Why? It goes on faster, comes off easier, and lasts longer. There is more value for the motorist and it is easier for the detailer to use. In some instances, you can put a coat of good wax over the sealant if you want to fill in spider line scratches on the paint. So, my conclusion is that a paint sealant is a better product to use than a wax in most instances." Check out this too in the "ask a pro" section. http://www.detailedimage.com/Ask-a-Pro/blackfire-wet-diamond-paint-sealant-product-review/ Edited September 8, 2016 by cbrsilv15
Abearclaw Posted September 8, 2016 Posted September 8, 2016 dafaq. so sorry for having an opinion different from yours. And showing you some sources. feel free to ignore it if you like but perhaps others like correct info. For the record if you have been waxing on top of sealant you have been doing it wrong for years but do not take my word for it go ask a pro. It is your truck though afterall and just a truck you can paint it hot pink and use spray on turtle wax or none for all I care. For someone who follows Larry from ammo nyc on detailing practices I'm astonished at your ignorance.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2
Half_ton Posted September 9, 2016 Posted September 9, 2016 I'd stay away from dish soap to strip coatings as well, I'd go with a citrus based wash that wont remove plasticizers and oils from your trim. 2
Robinson99 Posted September 9, 2016 Posted September 9, 2016 Tonneau cover Tuxedo Lo Pro Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk 2
LongrangeLauber Posted September 9, 2016 Posted September 9, 2016 Picking up truck from body shop soon. Then straight to tire dealer to get new wheels installed, then home to install my low beam HID Morimoto kit, LMZ hi beam LED's and then some Amazon special LED fog lights bulbs for color matching purposes. Also installing the filler plugs for the frame I got months ago for her. If need be I will clean her up and FINALLY be able to use my foam cannon 2
old coons Posted September 9, 2016 Posted September 9, 2016 (edited) Not today but a few weeks ago. Traded my 15 High Country 5.3L for this 15 6.2L. Added Rough Country 3.5" lift with new control arms/shocks and struts. also put on Air Lift loadlifter 5000's in the rear. Love the torque in the 6.2! Kept my wheels and tires from the other truck and put them on this. I'm going test fit 35's because I feel like I have a lot more room from the 2.5" level I had on the High Country. If they don't fit I will add 295-60's instead. Anyway here is a pic of the new truck. Edited September 9, 2016 by old coons 2
cbrsilv15 Posted September 9, 2016 Posted September 9, 2016 Bought some like new LT headlights today for cheap!! Gonna paint the chrome trim black and clear them. Possibly do a retrofit too. 2
Toxicgoober Posted September 10, 2016 Posted September 10, 2016 Just put on the 2.5" Suspension Maxx level. I'll take pics tomorrow during daylight. I only used the 2" option (you can choose a few different heights) because I didn't want to deal with the ball joints and whatnot. Probably should have just done the 2.5" because the bottom spacers were complete hell to get in there with everything still assembled. Guess you live and learn right? Well anyway, love the look. Getting an alignment in the am. Happy with the finished product but probably will just pay someone to do it next time haha. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Toxicgoober Posted September 10, 2016 Posted September 10, 2016 (edited) Top before, bottom after 2" level. Pretty happy with the outcome. Next I need to make up my mind on wheels/tires and sizes on both. I might be completely out of my mind but I could swear the truck rides better since the level. I drove it over some of the same roads I frequent and did not feel half the bumps and potholes I normally do. Do y'all think having the suspension already extended more would make for a better ride, or maybe the reposition of the MRC sensor arms did it? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited September 10, 2016 by Toxicgoober 1
Archaic2021 Posted September 10, 2016 Posted September 10, 2016 (edited) Installed RC 2.5" lift. Stock tires have maybe 2 months left....gotta decide what size tires to go with. Edited September 10, 2016 by Archaic2021 1
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