2015 F-150 spec comparison

[calgator73]

I was decidedly curious how much advantage the new lighter truck provides over our trucks. Here's what I've found (only care about crew cab standard bed configurations) and links so you can explore yourselves. IMHO...not much difference from where we're currently at.

 

2015 Supercrew/4x4/3.73/3.5 ego boost/max payload and max trailer

Tongue weight 1,220

GCWR 17,000

Max trailer weight 11,400

GVWR 7,850

Max cargo 1728

RGAWR ????

 

Tow rating is derated 2% per 1,000 feet in elevation. Wonder how they used j2807....

 

J2807 assumes any equipment with more than 33% market penetration, driver and passenger of 150lbs each plus hitch equipment allowance of 70lbs according to chevy. Ford says " Maximum Loaded Trailer Weight assumes a towing vehicle with any mandatory options, no cargo, tongue load of 10-15% (conventional trailer) or king pin weight of 15—25% (5th-wheel trailer) and driver only (150 pounds). Weight of additional options, passengers, cargo and hitch must be deducted from this weight." on page 14.

 

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B1M1bd727euATGg3TjlZT3JzNEE&usp=sharing

 

http://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/towingguides/Ford_Linc_15RVTTgde_Sep30.pdf

 

 

Sounds like with all of these caveats that the 6.2 is still better and the 5.3 may be the equal of the ego boost.

 

http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/news.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2014/Jun/0619-silverado1500.html

[MikeNH]

I've said for months the Ford weight savings is blown out of proportion since they were already like 300+ lbs heavier than a GM truck.

[calgator73]

I've felt the same....but I wanted to see data. I think the only slight advantage would be cargo capacity after hitching a heavy tt. Most of the tech features that they are touting are not available on max tow vehicles.

['01LS1]

Thinking the biggest advantage they may have for the avg. buyer is obviously the body will not rust with long term ownership.

The rest is marketing in terms of using aluminum over traditional steel.

 

There is a clip of the first 2015 F150 rolling off the line in Dearborn this past week. At around the 5 minute mark they are

talking about the money Ford spent on updating the mfg plants. They also note that dealers will have to spend $30-$60 thousand

dollars to work on them.

 

 

[foghorn23]

Competition is a good thing, but with that said I think I'd pass on the first (or second) model year of a vehicle with so much new technology. It will be interesting to see what the insurance costs are, body repair costs, durability in a truck, etc. If Ford nailed it then they'll force everyone else to up their game. If not it will be nice to sit back and not have to worry about it.

[DanMan_S]

Thinking the biggest advantage they may have for the avg. buyer is obviously the body will not rust with long term ownership.

The rest is marketing in terms of using aluminum over traditional steel.

 

 

Keep in mind that while Aluminum doesn't rust as easily as steel in the traditional sense (when exposed to water), aluminum definitely oxidizes very quickly when exposed to chlorides, IE, road salt in the winter. I know in some states that the magnesium chloride they use on roads absolutely destroys aluminum wheels.

 

"Technologically important metals and alloys such as aluminum (Al), stainless steels, and nickel-based alloys exhibit corrosion resistance in a wide range of environments due to the presence of protective, passive oxides.1–90 The passive oxides behave as kinetic barriers, which inhibit further oxidation of the underlying thermodynamically reactive metals. However, in environments that contain aggressive anions such as chloride, Cl−, the passive film becomes unstable and degrades locally causing film breakdown and localized corrosion,1–95 which in turn decreases the service life of the materials. The consequence of discrete oxide failure is localized corrosion, which occurs in the forms of crevice corrosion in occluded sites and metastable or stable pitting corrosion on open surfaces. It is generally agreed that localized corrosion occurs in two distinct steps: initiation and propagation."

[calgator73]

 

Keep in mind that while Aluminum doesn't rust as easily as steel in the traditional sense (when exposed to water), aluminum definitely oxidizes very quickly when exposed to chlorides, IE, road salt in the winter. I know in some states that the magnesium chloride they use on roads absolutely destroys aluminum wheels.

 

"Technologically important metals and alloys such as aluminum (Al), stainless steels, and nickel-based alloys exhibit corrosion resistance in a wide range of environments due to the presence of protective, passive oxides.1–90 The passive oxides behave as kinetic barriers, which inhibit further oxidation of the underlying thermodynamically reactive metals. However, in environments that contain aggressive anions such as chloride, Cl−, the passive film becomes unstable and degrades locally causing film breakdown and localized corrosion,1–95 which in turn decreases the service life of the materials. The consequence of discrete oxide failure is localized corrosion, which occurs in the forms of crevice corrosion in occluded sites and metastable or stable pitting corrosion on open surfaces. It is generally agreed that localized corrosion occurs in two distinct steps: initiation and propagation."

If I understand this correctly: If a manufacturer builds something out of aluminum they still must use proper coatings to ensure the metal does not corrode.

[truckofwinandawesome]

If I understand this correctly: If a manufacturer builds something out of aluminum they still must use proper coatings to ensure the metal does not corrode.

 

but if they don't get the coatings right, the paint will be flaking off like they did on the W-Bodys back in the 90s-00s.

[DanMan_S]

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If I understand this correctly: If a manufacturer builds something out of aluminum they still must use proper coatings to ensure the metal does not corrode.

 

The same is true for the galvanic coating on steel. As with any protective coating on a piece of metal, what happens with scratches, rock chips, etc? The big fact to remember is that Aluminum isn't some magic element that is safe from all forms of corrosion, oxidation, etc. Metal is metal.

[calgator73]

Another interesting feature are the frame "windows." I know our frames aren't solid monolithic chunks of steel...but making the frame a skeleton (I know I'm exaggerating) doesn't sound like an awesome plan for keeping the funk out.

 

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2014/01/2015-ford-f-150-frame-and-suspension-first-look.html%20

 

 

Never mind

 

http://g.foolcdn.com/editorial/images/151041/frame_r02_large.jpg

[SnakeEyeSS]

 

but if they don't get the coatings right, the paint will be flaking off like they did on the W-Bodys back in the 90s-00s.

The trucks did it also, they even had a recall it was so bad.

[truckofwinandawesome]

The trucks did it also, they even had a recall it was so bad.

 

you should see the '94 Cheyenne Work Truck my school has; the Paint flaking is so bad, I'm suprised it hasn't rusted out from Lack of Paint.