Traction slipping on gentle corners

Andy Seibel · December 7, 2016

Wait...i thought it was consensus on this baord that if you need 4wd auto in rain=terrible driver? So 4wd auto in rain is ok now? Nobody wants to be a terrible driver now do they? (Puts on flame suit)

come on man, don't try to start that again. the OP is talking about cornering, not pulling out into traffic from a stop.

Reidan · December 7, 2016

Traction from take off has been fine. Just turning at a light.

Example, approach an intersection where you have a right turn lane which gives you a yield instead of stop. Slow while approaching the intersection. Get a view of cross traffic on the road you are turning on too. If the lane is clear, proceed to merge into the lane instead of coming to a complete stop. And that is when I feel the back end want to slide out to the left. I am not stomping the accelerator. Just a gentle press to merge into the lane. I would estimate speeds have been 20-25 mph when I have felt the traction start to slip.

amxguy1970 · December 7, 2016

Even Goodyear's own site admits the SR-A's aren't good at anything.

https://www.goodyear.com/en-US/tires/wrangler-sr-a/reviews

Huh? it has just under 4 out of 5 (probably 3.8 or 3.9) stars rating. Unless you are talking about another page not on that link.

Wet traction isn't their strong suit but for most people they are fine (they are much better than tires 15 years ago). The general consensus by some people is if they aren't KO2's they are rubbish and dangerous.

Tyler

Reidan · December 7, 2016

KO2's?

Andy Seibel · December 7, 2016

KO2's?

BF Goodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2

The standard tire of people who want to look like they go off roading but never do. (JOKE)

they are very good tires, but you can also get similar performance for less money.

kstruckcountry · December 7, 2016

Huh? it has just under 4 out of 5 (probably 3.8 or 3.9) stars rating. Unless you are talking about another page not on that link.

Wet traction isn't their strong suit but for most people they are fine (they are much better than tires 15 years ago). The general consensus by some people is if they aren't KO2's they are rubbish and dangerous.

Tyler

Look on any forum for pickups that come with SRA's stock and you'll see complaints about traction.

No one cares about tires from 15 years ago, and I definitely am not going to hold anything made today to the same standards for performance as something made decades ago. Junk tires then are no excuse for junk tires now.

My experience with the SRA's was poor. Around a 20,000 mile life, many flats, poor traction, they have little siping, and ride poorly. Maybe some people get along with them ok. I'm just giving the OP some comparison so he isn't worried about his new pickup's capabilities.

You're not wrong about KO2's though. I think they're overrated, already outdated, and not a good value compared to many other tires. But if that's what people are into, good for them. At least they're better than SRA's. Most of the people who run them do it because they always have.

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Jon A · December 7, 2016

Example, approach an intersection where you have a right turn lane which gives you a yield instead of stop. Slow while approaching the intersection. Get a view of cross traffic on the road you are turning on too. If the lane is clear, proceed to merge into the lane instead of coming to a complete stop. And that is when I feel the back end want to slide out to the left. I am not stomping the accelerator. Just a gentle press to merge into the lane. I would estimate speeds have been 20-25 mph when I have felt the traction start to slip.

Auto mode will certainly help you in scenarios like this. It will help any time your foot is on the gas--not just in drag-style launches. Gently accelerating out of a corner, even maintaining a constant speed in a corner with only "maintenance throttle" on a slick surface will be improved with a small amount of torque going to the front tires.

Where it won't help you is off-throttle corners or braking while cornering. People who enter a corner too fast and lift off the gas and/or tap the brakes mid corner will not be helped. On slick roads, try and brake in a straight line slowing the vehicle before entering the corner.

dorkweed · December 7, 2016

Goodyear Tires= Suck

In almost every category IMHO!!

bndawgs · December 7, 2016

I have the el cheap goodyears and I'm not counting on any traction in the snow

Goodyear Tires= Suck

In almost every category IMHO!!

That's why they say they're good for a year

CiscoKid1 · December 8, 2016

My 2015 came with Goodyear SR-A and my 2016 came with Goodyear Eagle LS2's and they both did'nt do well in the rain. I needed 4wd to drive on wet grass in the mornings. They are dangerous in the snow even with 4wd. They don't like to stop on snow.

I just put BF Goodrich TA KO2's which ride like crap compared to the Goodyears. I feel like i'm in a wagon. They weigh a whole lot more that the goodyears but they have way more traction. It requires plenty more gas to spin them out even in the dirt. I lost about 1 to 2 mpg on my fuel economy rating. When I tow with them, they wander more than the Goodyears. I have TA KO2'S on my 2003 2wd Silverado and in the snow they would outperform my 4wd with Goodyears.

The traction issue is probably your tires because I'm in SC and I'm getting the same rain you are. The BF Goodrich tires aren't slipping and sliding but I remember the goodyears were.

LongrangeLauber · December 8, 2016

Look on any forum for pickups that come with SRA's stock and you'll see complaints about traction.

No one cares about tires from 15 years ago, and I definitely am not going to hold anything made today to the same standards for performance as something made decades ago. Junk tires then are no excuse for junk tires now.

My experience with the SRA's was poor. Around a 20,000 mile life, many flats, poor traction, they have little siping, and ride poorly. Maybe some people get along with them ok. I'm just giving the OP some comparison so he isn't worried about his new pickup's capabilities.

You're not wrong about KO2's though. I think they're overrated, already outdated, and not a good value compared to many other tires. But if that's what people are into, good for them. At least they're better than SRA's. Most of the people who run them do it because they always have.

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I run them because I needed tires asap and that was about the best all terrain my shop had. Next time I'm thinking I'll do more research and try something different, because on my 02 when I had the BFG All Terrains they sucked when they got below half tread. So far these have impressed me more than the previous generation ones did

Knotsure · December 8, 2016

Auto mode will certainly help you in scenarios like this. It will help any time your foot is on the gas--not just in drag-style launches. Gently accelerating out of a corner, even maintaining a constant speed in a corner with only "maintenance throttle" on a slick surface will be improved with a small amount of torque going to the front tires.

Where it won't help you is off-throttle corners or braking while cornering. People who enter a corner too fast and lift off the gas and/or tap the brakes mid corner will not be helped. On slick roads, try and brake in a straight line slowing the vehicle before entering the corner.

Some good advice here. Straight line braking[emoji1360]

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Donstar · December 8, 2016

Well i can feel the op's pain. My truck has 10,500 miles on it now and in the rain on wet roads, you do need to be careful. I have the garbage SR-As, and i drive my truck like there's an egg on the gas pedal (like a grandpa)

I'm an old school posi rear guy. I'm NOT impressed at all with the G80 locker in my truck. Most times it does not lock. I'd much rather have a posi rear again. I didn't have this problem in the trucks i had with posi rears

I am a grandpa (x4) and find that the OEM tires on new trucks are usually poor for traction. Pickup trucks by design are light in the back and not great in this regard. My past three GM pickups came with different brands of tires (Goodyear, Firestone, Bridgestone) and I switched them all to Michelin LTX MS's within the first year. The difference has always been outstanding. I am not promoting Michelins as much as promoting the difference between premium aftermarket tires compared to OEM on our pickups. I change to better tires for the safety, not so I can drive less cautiously. If I have grandchildren in "papa's truck" I want all wheels securely planted!

BretD04GMC · January 9, 2017

My 2015 likes to do the same thing – wet road, low speed, taking a corner or making a turn, and the rear tires will occasionally break loose and the truck will skate a little. The factory issue Goodyear's are junk. At under 19k mine are more than half gone already.

I ran Goodyear Duratracks on my old 2004 Sierra 1500 4x4, and was pretty happy with them. I'll probably try a set on my 2015 soon, but keep them close to the factory size rather than up-sizing like I did on the 4x4.