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This oil runs $49 for 5qt jug and &12 a quart at Walmart. No way in hell I'd pay that much for this oil. I'll stick with Mobile 1 AFE or Quaker State Ultimate Durability. Incidentally, they also got rid of Mobil 1 Extended Performance Filters with the Extended Performance Gold color match and replaced them with Extended Performance with Annual Protection Green color match and say the filter will now do 20,000 mile OCI's as well. A cut open look at BITOG shows oddly spaced pleats, no synthetic media, and no change from the old filter to the new. I think Mobil is playing people big time with these two products.

That's disheartening. If they play with regular Mobil 1, I'll switch back to Schaeffers.

 

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My 2 cents, again on oil and filters.

Cowpie seems to have a good handle on this area.

That being said I use Quaker State semi-synthetic Dexos 1 and fleet filters. The oil I buy at Walmart, $17.00 for 5 quart jug. The filters at any auto store by the dozen. The last dozen cost me $28 I think. Same filter used by fast lube joints. 3k mile oil changes.

 

I just don't like long oil change intervals, not worth it to me. At 3k miles my oil is plenty dirty. I sleep better. :happysad:

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May want to invest in an oil analysis. My oil doesn't start to show color till at least 7K miles. It's been proven by scores of oil companies going extended does no harm. Many major automakers have gone extended. I don't go 25K miles anymore, I go once a year I don't drive that many miles a year now. In the decades I did the oil analysis always came back fine.

 

 

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May want to invest in an oil analysis. My oil doesn't start to show color till at least 7K miles. It's been proven by scores of oil companies going extended does no harm. Many major automakers have gone extended. I don't go 25K miles anymore, I go once a year I don't drive that many miles a year now. In the decades I did the oil analysis always came back fine.

 

 

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Mine has some miles on it, so oil tends to get black in less than 5k miles...but, of the hundred or so UOAs I did over the years on multiple vehicles, I never had one come back bad or even questionable, even with extended drains.

 

This truck was the only one that raised red flags, high copper from the wrist pin keepers I think I remember (common occurance in the 6.0l anyhow).

 

 

 

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I have a hunch that this annual oil change thing is just a marketing gimmick from Mobil and that the oil is just the same full synthetic regular stuff that you can get for less.

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Similar things have happened before.

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I tend to agree on the 'marketing' hunch. But to charge $50 for it versus something else? It better be different than everything else.

 

I remember many many years ago - buying Mobile 1 75w-90 gear old. Some bottles would say LSD compatible while others didn't. People would get sooo hung up on this. If you compared the bottles side by side, the backside labeling was exactly the same. I even called up Mobile 1 directly and they said its the same stuff. Just 'marketing'.

 

Personally - I've always gone 5K miles on oil changes even with Mobile 1. The oil gets 'dark' / dirty in that time. I certainly wouldn't pay that much for 'annual' oil. Give me the basic Mobile 1 and I'm happy.

I don't put a lot of miles on my truck. I've owned my Canyon for only 14 months and only have 8400 miles on it.

 

Granted - I'm not used to having such a high-tech oil change management system. I've had my first free oil change at the dealer at 4500 miles. I've only put about 4,000 miles and my 'Change oil soon' warnings are coming on everyday. My oil percentage is 7%. Really? Only 4,000 miles?

 

What oils does the dealership use? Is it regular oil? Syn blend? or syn? The oil management system doesn't know what type of oil that you use (syn vs reg) - but does using synthetic change the data the system is reading to give you longer intervals?

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So who checked their new truck oil dip stick level and found the oil level way past the hatched marks for full? Is the dip wrong or did the dealer over fill?

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