How many regret leaving....

tnchevy · March 28, 2017

We had a 2003 Tahoe. Loved it. Went to a 2012 Grand Cherokee. Stuck it out for 2.5 yrs. Bought it used with 30k on it. Had more issues with it in 44k than the old Tahoe that had nearly 200k on it. Traded the JGC for a new 2017 Tahoe a few weeks ago. Loving it so far (except the DVD player that doesn't transmit wireless sound, but working on getting that fixed).

Funny how some get bad ones and other get good ones. I also own a 2012 JGC and have 100k miles on it and it has not ever had the first problem. Driven it from TN to Montana twice now plus multiple trips to the gulf coast. Actually gonna miss it when we do decide to get rid of it in the next year or two. My 2014 silverado has had multiple issues since I bought it 2.5 years ago, nothing major just annoying to have to take off work to get it fixed. I've owned 4 silverados in a row with 3 of them bought new (82,92,02,14) and I still regret getting rid of my 02 model.

16LT4 · March 28, 2017

I'll be one of the first to say they regret getting this truck. My last full size truck, a '99 ECSB GMC Z71, was a squeaky, clunky POS despite my maintenance from 40k to 84k miles; every shift from park to drive was followed by an audible clunk that could be felt (felt like the rear moving on the springs) that neither myself nor the dealer could pinpoint. Horrible fit and finish, ride, power, et al., so much so that I swore off GM and their trucks for a decade, and went German. Fast forward and last April my father bought a loaded CCLB Colorado Z71, a truck that thoroughly impressed me, so much so that it planted the seeds of wanting to get back into a newer truck. I'd been daily driving my '08 BMW X3, a vehicle that at 130k still has both this '17 Silverado and Dad's '16 Colorado beat in every qualitative category, from fit and finish, to comfort, to engineering, to features, etc., but after buying a larger spread of land last summer, my '84 GMC just didn't have the comfort or the capability (mostly the capability) for 400 mile round-trip tows/hauls fully loaded with a trailer any more. I went out looking for a Colorado Diesel, but wound up being sold on this Silverado simply because there were better incentives on the Silverado, and I didn't want to pay more for less capability (even though I'd never find myself between the Colorado's and Silverado's max tow ratings).

Now, remorse has set in, and after less than 7k miles, I want to get out of this Silverado and into a Colorado if I can make the numbers work. I thought front coil springs would have helped ail the ride and handling that I loathed about my '99; nope. I thought 18 years of quality upgrades would help the poor fit and finish, and reality is marginal. I find the Colorado to be a better put together vehicle. Not sure why Ford and Ram can put together capable full-size trucks that drive without squeaks and clunks and GM can't, yet the F-450 I drive at work has been through 4 years of obscene abuse, and continues to do so in operational silence. I'm not sure if GM still does it, but in previous generations the ECM would cut engine power when shifting to preserve the transmission, as the transmission couldn't handle the power levels of the 5.3 over a decade ago; I wouldn't doubt they still do, and that's why so many people complain about shifting issues from both the 6 and 8 speeds. The 6L50 of my dad's Colorado and my X3 sure don't exhibit those shifting issues.

Is the Silverado horrible? No, and for some it's probably just fine. Perhaps I've just been spoiled from driving the Roundel for 5 years, but there is cause for concern when the 44 passenger bus I drive at work drives with less clunks, squeaks, and vibrations than a brand new '17 Chevy.

Havvkeye · March 28, 2017

been daily driving my '08 BMW X3, a vehicle that at 130k still has both this '17 Silverado and Dad's '16 Colorado beat in every qualitative category, from fit and finish, to comfort, to engineering, to features, etc.,

You can't compare these to a brand like BMW... there is no comparison at all. As I have said many times before, if BMW or Merc ever came out with a pickup I would buy it in a heartbeat. They are just that much better.

Donstar · March 28, 2017

Is the Silverado horrible? No, and for some it's probably just fine. Perhaps I've just been spoiled from driving the Roundel for 5 years, but there is cause for concern when the 44 passenger bus I drive at work drives with less clunks, squeaks, and vibrations than a brand new '17 Chevy.

It sounds to me like your truck fell of the top deck of the transport truck and your dealer did a poor job of putting it back together. I have a 15 GMC Sierra and the fit and finish is outstanding. It drives and rides quietly and smoothly. I once had to take in for service when the left front signal light needed replacing. If my truck made noises or rode worse than a bus, I'd take it back for service. I do appreciate and recognize a nice riding vehicle. Your particular vehicle as you describe it is not an accurate representation of the brand, imo

dasimmon · March 28, 2017

You can't compare these to a brand like BMW... there is no comparison at all. As I have said many times before, if BMW or Merc ever came out with a pickup I would buy it in a heartbeat. They are just that much better.

exactly

sallenthornton · March 29, 2017

It sounds to me like your truck fell of the top deck of the transport truck and your dealer did a poor job of putting it back together. I have a 15 GMC Sierra and the fit and finish is outstanding. It drives and rides quietly and smoothly. I once had to take in for service when the left front signal light needed replacing. If my truck made noises or rode worse than a bus, I'd take it back for service. I do appreciate and recognize a nice riding vehicle. Your particular vehicle as you describe it is not an accurate representation of the brand, imo

Agreed! My 2016 Silverado rides nice a quiet. Much quieter than the 2015 Honda CRV my wife drives and much quieter than my old Honda Ridgeline. This truck is probably one of the quietest vehicles I have ever owned.

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tnchevy · March 29, 2017

I have to second that, my 2014 is extremely quiet no matter what road or speed I am travelling.

mookdoc6 · March 29, 2017

Never left GM.....Just turned 25,000 miles on GMC Sierra 2016 and I have put new Wiper blades on it and had the trans flushed and filled on my dime! This thing is driving more solid than when I picked it up....pretty impressed!

twoheeldrive · March 29, 2017

Maybe I had a bunch of BMW lemons, but my Silverado is quieter and rides better than any of those German machines I used to have. And I had a bunch of them. From the smallest to the largest.

BMW's are great if you like to drive aggressively and push it to the limit. You have to pay to play though, BMW's are expensive to fix and they need a lot of fixing.

I'm way past the days of pushing cars to the limit, so I really enjoy driving my truck.

Knightfall · March 30, 2017

I will bet any day of the week that a Tahoe (or Expedition, or even the Armada or Sequoia) will outlast an X5 or whatever the big BMW SUV is with half the maintenance. Not comparing apples to apples, any Chevy/Ford/Dodge/Nissan/Toyota truck I would be pretty willing to put money on as being more durable than any German car except MAYBE that Mercedes squarebody SUV who's name escapes me right now, especially when put under severe duty. German cars might be "fancier" or faster, I totally understand the market for luxury. But they're not made to be beat on.

j-ten-ner · March 30, 2017

I'd take a BMW any day and drive it like what it is designed for.

Cruising with 250km/h on the Autobahn.

so long

j-ten-ner

Havvkeye · March 30, 2017

BMW's are great if you like to drive aggressively and push it to the limit. You have to pay to play though, BMW's are expensive to fix and they need a lot of fixing.

I'm way past the days of pushing cars to the limit, so I really enjoy driving my truck.

I will bet any day of the week that a Tahoe (or Expedition, or even the Armada or Sequoia) will outlast an X5 or whatever the big BMW SUV is with half the maintenance. Not comparing apples to apples, any Chevy/Ford/Dodge/Nissan/Toyota truck I would be pretty willing to put money on as being more durable than any German car except MAYBE that Mercedes squarebody SUV who's name escapes me right now, especially when put under severe duty. German cars might be "fancier" or faster, I totally understand the market for luxury. But they're not made to be beat on.

I've been driving my BMW hard (like it is meant to) for 10 years now and I have not done anything but regular maintenance. I would pit it's reliability against any other manufacturer. Same story with my ex's 6 year old Merc SUV.

Sure there are some exceptions (i.e. e92 with the HPFP) but that was ultimately covered under warranty for anyone with issues, as are most of the issues with BMW. That is one of the reasons BMW does the 3 year all inclusive warranty (was 4 years until this past year - and is really all inclusive since it covers oil and wiper blades and other "normal wear" items)

KARNUT · March 30, 2017

Older pre cylinder deactivation GM full sized I'd put up against just about anything. But sadly GMs testing doesn't seem to be complete regarding new products when let out to the public. Direct injection and cylinder deactivation isn't ready for prime time. I still remember the famous 5.7 deisel, ouch!

dasimmon · March 30, 2017

I've been driving my BMW hard (like it is meant to) for 10 years now and I have not done anything but regular maintenance. I would pit it's reliability against any other manufacturer. Same story with my ex's 6 year old Merc SUV.

Sure there are some exceptions (i.e. e92 with the HPFP) but that was ultimately covered under warranty for anyone with issues, as are most of the issues with BMW. That is one of the reasons BMW does the 3 year all inclusive warranty (was 4 years until this past year - and is really all inclusive since it covers oil and wiper blades and other "normal wear" items)

+1. Entire family has driven BMW for years, amazing machines

EFLine · March 30, 2017

I figured I would chime in here. I have been GM branded since my first car, 1988 Corvette, 1995 S10 blazer, 2003 Suburban Z71 and now my 2014 Sierra SLT CCSB. The only regret I have had honestly is getting rid of the 2003 Suburban with 200k miles for my Sierra.

Bought the sierra with 20,000 miles, CPO in 2015 and have had more issues with it than any of my other GM's combined.

1) Trailer brake shorted out twice

2) Heated seat element failed 3 times

3) AC condenser cracked

4) AC seat blower motor shorted out 4 times

5) Burns over a quart of oil every 4,000 miles

6) Navi screen has died

7) radiator leaking

8) numerous AFM issues

this is just to name a few of the bigger items. I am out of warranty now and deciding if I should trade up to a 2016 Sierra, get a 2015 F250/F350 SuperDuty SRW CCSB or cross my fingers that the issues have stopped as I cant afford to keep replacing these things out of warranty.