Thinking about selling

duquephart · August 9, 2017

New TLX is ~32k on up.

And is hardly a luxury car.

amxguy1970 · August 9, 2017

Interesting discussion. I prefer driving a pickup to a luxury car. Trucks can be equipped with features found in very nice automobiles. The downside to having a truck as a daily driver has been the high cost of fuel but GM has substantially resolved this issue. The visibility, comfort, ease of getting in/out, roominess, durability and muscle cannot be found in a sedan. Perhaps a '64 Ford Galaxy wagon would be a strong competitor for my choice as a daily driver!

I guess you haven't been in a powerful large luxury sedan? Tons of cars that severely out muscle a truck, have more room (all around) and ride a 100 times better and handle a 1000 times better.

I don't believe anyone that says they actually enjoy driving a truck if they are at all a car guy that enjoys driving. They like the thought of what it portrays, being high up, the room in many cases (but not all) and the thought of capability but actually enjoying the drive, no. They just tolerate it, who wants to wallow around turns, lag behind V6 sedans in a race, pound and plop over broken pavement or any of the other side effects of driving a truck; that just sucks every day. Anytime I drive a nice luxury car or sports car (or a combination) it makes me loathe my truck sometimes, I really want a second vehicle; but a luxury sports sedan wouldn't have done the trails I did a few weeks ago, it wouldn't tow the jetskis now or boat in the future. It wouldn't handle all our trips to home depot, handle side pool business stuff or do many of the other things this tool has been used for. Which BTW that is exactly what trucks are, tools, many people driving them seem to not know that...

The Buick lacrosse I had as a rental recently had tons of room, rode so nice, handled better, was faster, cheaper with a much higher quality and softer leather with many more bells and whistles (that wasn't even a high powered performance luxury sedan either). Who in their right mind enjoys driving a truck? They must have never driven an engaging car that had awesome steering feedback, brakes that would stop a locomotive or handling that makes you not want to slow down for a turn; and to do all that in a car wrapped in soft "leather" (truck leather is chintzy) and capable of sprinting from corner to corner on a back road puts a big ole shit eating grin on your face.

Maybe in a few years when I build a house with a bigger garage I can get an nice and engaging daily driver, maybe a lightly used Chevy SS with magnetic suspension, I really enjoyed that test drive unless I can afford something with V from Cadillac. BTW this all wasn't directed at you Donstar, just the first sentence in response, the rest was just me yapping away.

Tyler

amxguy1970 · August 9, 2017

And is hardly a luxury car.

Really? Milano Leather with Alcantara trim, adaptive cruise, humidity control, rain sense wipers, voice activated everything, surround view camera, advance all wheel drive and most every safety feature you can think of including agile assist and rear wheel steering, 10 speaker sound system; sounds like a luxury sedan to me that puts your LTZ to shame. In the sense of comparing it to a loaded S-class maybe not but a luxury sedan it is.

Been a fan of Acura for years, lots of bang for the buck and are reliable. Add in the V6 with an excellent all wheel drive system and you have a great sport sedan for a good price.

Tyler

pickmeup · August 9, 2017

Average price of new trucks people are buying is probably 42,000 average . Can you get a new car of various mfgs that will out handle , out ride and be way more fun to drive ? My opinion hell...YES. You can do it for a lot less than 42,000 too. If you are not hauling or towing trucks are expensive daily drivers that are nothing special to drive imo.

redwngr · August 9, 2017

Drive what you like to drive (and can afford to drive).

Uhaul has rental trucks here for $20/day if one is needed for a weekend warrior job. (even better if you have a buddy with a truck that can lend bring the truck and the back muscles to help).

I'm in the camp that prefers to drive a truck.

We often (usually) take the truck and leave the perfectly good full size car in the driveway (even though it gets 150% better fuel mileage)

Don't worry about what me or the others think -- your opinion is the only one that matters.

If the extra cost is bothering you, then it's likely time for a change.

Heavy 5.7 · August 9, 2017

If you are not hauling or towing trucks are expensive daily drivers that are nothing special to drive imo.

True this. Even better I find it humorous that some urban cowboys will spend an entire weekend detailing a pickup truck and freak out at the mere thought of driving it on the other side of the curb. Of course it goes without saying they have to buy a trailer to haul anything so they don't scratch the bed. I've even seen a hammock contraption posted on this site to manage dog hair, yikes! If a truck is simply used to haul a couple of fat ass around, it's not necessary. In the end buy something one can actually afford with cash, because any type of payment sucks.

truckguy82 · August 10, 2017

I guess you haven't been in a powerful large luxury sedan? Tons of cars that severely out muscle a truck, have more room (all around) and ride a 100 times better and handle a 1000 times better.

I don't believe anyone that says they actually enjoy driving a truck if they are at all a car guy that enjoys driving. They like the thought of what it portrays, being high up, the room in many cases (but not all) and the thought of capability but actually enjoying the drive, no. They just tolerate it, who wants to wallow around turns, lag behind V6 sedans in a race, pound and plop over broken pavement or any of the other side effects of driving a truck; that just sucks every day. Anytime I drive a nice luxury car or sports car (or a combination) it makes me loathe my truck sometimes, I really want a second vehicle; but a luxury sports sedan wouldn't have done the trails I did a few weeks ago, it wouldn't tow the jetskis now or boat in the future. It wouldn't handle all our trips to home depot, handle side pool business stuff or do many of the other things this tool has been used for. Which BTW that is exactly what trucks are, tools, many people driving them seem to not know that...

The Buick lacrosse I had as a rental recently had tons of room, rode so nice, handled better, was faster, cheaper with a much higher quality and softer leather with many more bells and whistles (that wasn't even a high powered performance luxury sedan either). Who in their right mind enjoys driving a truck? They must have never driven an engaging car that had awesome steering feedback, brakes that would stop a locomotive or handling that makes you not want to slow down for a turn; and to do all that in a car wrapped in soft "leather" (truck leather is chintzy) and capable of sprinting from corner to corner on a back road puts a big ole shit eating grin on your face.

Maybe in a few years when I build a house with a bigger garage I can get an nice and engaging daily driver, maybe a lightly used Chevy SS with magnetic suspension, I really enjoyed that test drive unless I can afford something with V from Cadillac. BTW this all wasn't directed at you Donstar, just the first sentence in response, the rest was just me yapping away.

Tyler

I agree with all of that except in the straight line category. 6.2 will rip anything that isn't a dedicated sports car. Especially off the line.

Silverado Steve · August 10, 2017

Most people who drive trucks don't really need a truck. Something line 90% of truck owners rately tow or haul according to Edmunds and KBB. I really dont need a truck but like having the utility to move bikes and larger objects in a pinch. I have friends who have got rid of their trucks and bought SUVs and CUVs like Highlanders, Pilots and even Jeep GCs, all with V6s and none of them get significantly better mpgs than my truck which makes it pointless to trade in if mpgs are a concern. Now if you are moving over to a car that gets high 20s, low 30s that might be worthwhile and if you needatruck for those rare occassions, rent one from Home Depot or U-Haul.

diyer2 · August 10, 2017

If it's all about the payment, sell it buy something cash. Depending on the age of your purchase, cheap insurance, plates, but may need maintenance. If your capable the repairs can be cost effective.

T1Kaiju · August 10, 2017

Not just about the utility, but thats worth a lot to me when I want to buy something big on the fly. I like being able to jump a curb to park at a crowded event or pop 4wd for weather purposes. Around here in dfw more people drive a truck than not, and its a pita trying to see ahead in a car when traffic is bad (I laugh as all the little cars dart around lane to lane when I can clearly see the way to go). I know that tlx will lose badly in a head on collision, and my experience with acura has been no better than gm trucks (acura dealerships like to blame owners for their car's issues where classic just gives me a loaner and fixes me up). If you want a car to save that much money then do it, but I will never 'go down' again...

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Loco-diablo · August 10, 2017

I agree in that a nice luxury sedan is way more capable in handling than my truck. More fun to drive too. Not my cup of tea. The wife has a new Volvo s90 sedan. Beautiful sedan with exceptional power and handling. If I feel the urge it's at my disposal.

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duquephart · August 10, 2017

Really? Milano Leather with Alcantara trim, adaptive cruise, humidity control, rain sense wipers, voice activated everything, surround view camera, advance all wheel drive and most every safety feature you can think of including agile assist and rear wheel steering, 10 speaker sound system; sounds like a luxury sedan to me that puts your LTZ to shame. In the sense of comparing it to a loaded S-class maybe not but a luxury sedan it is.

Been a fan of Acura for years, lots of bang for the buck and are reliable. Add in the V6 with an excellent all wheel drive system and you have a great sport sedan for a good price.

Tyler

Marketing is one thing --- reality is another. Milano "leather" is a corrected grain product of the type found mainly in cheap shoes whereas luxury cars will use top grain hides. Alcantra is a "suede like" material of dubious origin. The various amenities and nannies are widely found elsewhere and do not necessarily define the TLX. The Acura (I own one) is a really nice, good bang for the buck car. Maybe even a "premium" car. But, bottom line, German car wannabe. Drive a real luxury car --- then come back and talk to us

j-ten-ner · August 10, 2017

...but a luxury sports sedan wouldn't have done the trails I did a few weeks ago, it wouldn't tow the jetskis now or boat in the future. It wouldn't handle all our trips to home depot, handle side pool business stuff or do many of the other things this tool has been used for...

I think this is what Donstar was referring to with "muscle".

so long

j-ten-ner

KARNUT · August 10, 2017

I used a truck all my working life for work. As soon as I retired my DD is a car with an old Chevy around just in case. Reminded though that back in the day people had hitches on their cars and trailer for trips that require hauling. People's gravitation towards trucks and SUVs is a product of good marketing by auto companies to push vehicles with better profit margins. I drive cars that are loaded at a price that wouldn't get me in a modestly equipped truck, the cost per mile is much less than a truck. I never considered a truck anything more than a tool for work.

truckguy82 · August 10, 2017

I used a truck all my working life for work. As soon as I retired my DD is a car with an old Chevy around just in case. Reminded though that back in the day people had hitches on their cars and trailer for trips that require hauling. People's gravitation towards trucks and SUVs is a product of good marketing by auto companies to push vehicles with better profit margins. I drive cars that are loaded at a price that wouldn't get me in a modestly equipped truck, the cost per mile is much less than a truck. I never considered a truck anything more than a tool for work.

I'm kinda argueing both sides of the coin. But with the rise of the luxo crew crab short bed, it's more than just a truck these days.

It essentially can replace the family suv/sedan now. It's basically everything you get with a suburban or yukon xl but you save $20k if you opt out of the 3rd row seating, and don't mind looking like working class with bad credit.