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One steps on the brakes and all trailer's brakes also are applied.

Comprende.

Post up a video of this wagon train stopping from 70 to 0 in a straight line in under 200'. If your saving money and following my truck when I have to stop I'd like to make sure you won't kill me & mine.

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Since we are having a pissing contest show any of these trucks with a 6000 lb trailer stop in 200'. The little dingy is going to be irrelevant in additional stopping distance when I'm already at 7 tons.

 

 

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Point taken through. Just because you can do it doesn't mean you should

 

 

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Comprende.

Post up a video of this wagon train stopping from 70 to 0 in a straight line in under 200'. If your saving money and following my truck when I have to stop I'd like to make sure you won't kill me & mine.

That is not a worry. But slamming on the brakes of your vehicle in front of my 80,000 lb semi truck might. It will not stop in 200' at highway speed either. In either case, following distance is critical. And you can't fix stupid.

 

And what we are talking about is hardly a wagon train. I have pulled double 53' trailers and triple 28' trailers many times. Now that is more of a wagon train.

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Put a hitch on the TT and pull a small trailer behind it with golf cart on it. I see people frequently pulling a boat behind their TT. Tongue weight doesn't apply then. Actually, might take a few pounds off the tongue weight on the truck hitch.

except it is illegal in some states.

 

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That is true. One has to look at doing something like this on a state by state basis.

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"At payload"?

 

 

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Did you read the article? Good info on all the big 3.

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Did you read the article? Good info on all the big 3.

Yes I read the article and really wanted to see a test amongst 3 trucks that are in the conversation. Which they aren't and to exercise the one persons point of braking ability of a tandem pull that shows the truck pulling at capacity and a payload that is the same. I'm glad that Chevy can out brake a ram truck. Doesn't really mean that a 1500 truck can stop 5 ton trailer in a safe fashion.

 

It's good information if I'm comparative shopping but not much more in my opinion.

 

 

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Yes I read the article and really wanted to see a test amongst 3 trucks that are in the conversation. Which they aren't and to exercise the one persons point of braking ability of a tandem pull that shows the truck pulling at capacity and a payload that is the same. I'm glad that Chevy can out brake a ram truck. Doesn't really mean that a 1500 truck can stop 5 ton trailer in a safe fashion.

It's good information if I'm comparative shopping but not much more in my opinion.

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I was a little more impressed than you were I guess. Only adding a few feet to the stopping distance at max payload is impressive to me.

 

I agree, a 1/2 ton truck probably won't stop 10000 lbs and shouldn't be towing it either, no matter what the manual and advertisement that week on TV says.

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I was a little more impressed than you were I guess. Only adding a few feet to the stopping distance at max payload is impressive to me.

 

I agree, a 1/2 ton truck probably won't stop 10000 lbs (especially a GM) and shouldn't be towing it either, no matter what the manual and advertisement that week on TV says.

I was impressed by that, i admit. But the 2 takeaways from that is that the truck should be engineered to brake well at payload and 4 feet with 2000lbs additional makes me grin. However, with a stiffer suspension and larger brakes with better compound for that kind of stop is one of the things that makes an HD different than a 1500. Second point is that the whole braking in tandem (in my opinion) a different scenario than braking at payload. An additional 2k lbs in the chassis and 5tons bearing down inertia is compounded differently because it's no in the chassis. Much like a bumper pull is going to have a different force in the truck in tow and braking than a 5w.

 

Personally, I don't think my rig is equipped to tandem a 7500lb trailer, 800lbs of kids and gas, and an additional 2200lbs of golf cart in tandem. Maybe if the world was flat...

 

 

 

 

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I was impressed by that, i admit. But the 2 takeaways from that is that the truck should be engineered to brake well at payload and 4 feet with 2000lbs additional makes me grin. However, with a stiffer suspension and larger brakes with better compound for that kind of stop is one of the things that makes an HD different than a 1500. Second point is that the whole braking in tandem (in my opinion) a different scenario than braking at payload. An additional 2k lbs in the chassis and 5tons bearing down inertia is compounded differently because it's no in the chassis. Much like a bumper pull is going to have a different force in the truck in tow and braking than a 5w.

Personally, I don't think my rig is equipped to tandem a 7500lb trailer, 800lbs of kids and gas, and an additional 2200lbs of golf cart in tandem. Maybe if the world was flat...

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I agree, you are asking to much of your current truck. Since you were raised in CO/UT area, knowing what mountain passes can do to a tow rig is a good thing. I have friends that laugh I went 1 ton, and I just smile when I get there driving the speed limit, relaxed, usually hours ahead of them (added fuel stops, not even towing close to speed limit, worn out on arrival).

 

Maybe it is time to put up the idea of a golf cart until you get a more suitable truck for the job. I would recommend a TT like mine with a toy hauler option in the front, but that isn't going to help you out in the payload department. I couldn't imagine towing 7500 lbs with a 5.3L, especially where I live.

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I would recommend a TT like mine with a toy hauler option in the front

CO, what TT is yours with the front toy hauler?

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