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Reason i added the spindles was because the alignment guy told me he wouldn’t align the truck without the spindles because they are “the right thing” and wouldnt touch it if i cut the droop stops
my control arms werent touching my coil before the spindles now they are 
these are the spindles 
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The higher you go the closer the arms come to the droop stops and the coil. It’s geometry. Either remove the spindles or better yet one of the spacers under or above the shock.


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Fix29 Enthusiast

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And find a new alignment guy while your at it

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12 minutes ago, Bushleaguechew said:

 


The higher you go the closer the arms come to the droop stops and the coil. It’s geometry. Either remove the spindles or better yet one of the spacers under or above the shock.


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Ok thanks i will do this tomorrow morning and will get back with results

6 minutes ago, Fix29 said:

And find a new alignment guy while your at it

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You sir are correct!!!

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Your alignment guy is wrong. The whole point of a spindle drop or lift is that is has zero effect on alignment geometry. Does change CV angle but zip on the alignment (4X4). If you have a 2" spindle lift remove all the coil over blocks. Remove the rear leaf spacer and realign. Your stock springs and struts are now in mid range and will clear your stops. Your truck will have about or under a 1" rake. 

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Your alignment guy is wrong. The whole point of a spindle drop or lift is that is has zero effect on alignment geometry. Does change CV angle but zip on the alignment (4X4). If you have a 2" spindle lift remove all the coil over blocks. Remove the rear leaf spacer and realign. Your stock springs and struts are now in mid range and will clear your stops. Your truck will have about or under a 1" rake. 

I have a 3” rough country spindle
A 1” rough country block under the shock
And a 2.5” rough country spacer on top of strut
Nothing in the rear that i know of
When they installed the spacer on top of strut the arm hit the droop stop
Now with the spindle the arm hits both the coil and droop stop, it got worse lol


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7 minutes ago, 14cris said:


I have a 3” rough country spindle
A 1” rough country block under the shock
And a 2.5” rough country spacer on top of strut
Nothing in the rear that i know of
When they installed the spacer on top of strut the arm hit the droop stop
Now with the spindle the arm hits both the coil and droop stop, it got worse lol


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In that case the spindle is all you need for a level. The butt of the truck is normally 3-1/2 higher than the front. Correct measurement method is spindle center to wheel well lip. 

 

Recheck you CV joint angles. Call the boys at Filthy Motorsport for the nitty gritty. :seeya:

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In that case the spindle is all you need for a level. The butt of the truck is normally 3-1/2 higher than the front. Correct measurement method is spindle center to wheel well lip. :seeya:

But could i get away with just removing the bottom 1” spacer and be done?


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Nasty Senior Enthusiast

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1 hour ago, 14cris said:


But could i get away with just removing the bottom 1” spacer and be done?


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Hold on  you have 3" spindles and 3.5" worth of leveling kits parts just on front on a 4wd with no diff drop?

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Hold on  you have 3" spindles and 3.5" worth of leveling kits parts just on front on a 4wd with no diff drop?

I have a diff drop installed


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3 minutes ago, 14cris said:


I have a diff drop installed


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Ok.  Remove the 1" spacer.  If that doesnt help. Reinstall the 1" and remove the 2.5

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Ok.  Remove the 1" spacer.  If that doesnt help. Reinstall the 1" and remove the 2.5

I can get pics tomorrow
So are the spindles lifting the truck any?
I havent put the tires on so idk


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Nasty Senior Enthusiast

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They are ut it might not be good.  Do you have a drop bracket for the lower control arms or just a diff drop

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They are ut it might not be good.  Do you have a drop bracket for the lower control arms or just a diff drop

Just a diff drop
But what i don’t understand is how were my upper arms not hitting the coil before the spindle
I thought the spindle was to raise the upper arms up some more
I got the spindles thinking it would fix my issue of hitting bumpstop


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Just now, 14cris said:


Just a diff drop
But what i don’t understand is how were my upper arms not hitting the coil before the spindle
I thought the spindle was to raise the upper arms up some more
I got the spindles thinking it would fix my issue of hitting bumpstop


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More stress is my guess. You have to much lift for just a diff drop.  Im surpised your front wheels or axle havent grenaded

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