Does anyone regret getting the 5.3L over the 6.2?

TNTSierra · September 10, 2020

Back to reality for everyone else. Spend your money the way you want too. The FACTS are that adding performance exhaust and CAI does improve performance. Read up. There are tons of articles out there proving me right.

Also the new 5.3 and 10 spd are very nice. GM shoulda came out with this from the get go and by passed the 8 spd.

TXGREEK · September 10, 2020

Funny I call your bluff. You stated no fact. You stated a stealership claims no HP/TQ bump without reprogramming the computer. That’s the biggest LIE I’ve ever heard. Better read up buttercup. Read the article. Those are true facts!

On my 2018 SLT 6.2L I gained a half a truck length on my fathers eco bust after adding the 2. I then tuned it and gained over truck and half. Now after getting my new 19 HC with a 6.2L. I gained .3 secs by adding my exhaust and intake.
say what you want but there are others on here that will also prove you wrong because they have added the performance package or another after market exhaust and intake and have seen gains.

That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever read in these forums! So your presumption of gains is based off of that lmao! Real world is through Dyno testing it, lmao. Anyway, Whatever helps you feel better for throwing away your money but no tunes are available for your 19 or newer that I’m aware of so add on all you want, still going to get yourself embarrassed running up against something that’s actually tuned and without any add ons.

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TNTSierra · September 10, 2020

1 minute ago, TXGREEK said:

That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever read in these forums! So your presumption of gains is based off of that lmao! Real world is through Dyno testing it, lmao. Anyway, Whatever helps you feel better for throwing away your money but no tunes are available for your 19 or newer that I’m aware of so add on all you want, still going to get yourself embarrassed running up against something that’s actually tuned and without any add ons.

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Lol. Truth hurts. Actual data and logging a race doesn’t count?? So what do you think benefitted my gain?? It was basically same temp. Half tank of gas and no headwind. Come tell me old man??
I’ll take my 19 up against your 18 anyday with that terrible 8 spd that clunks all day long. I’ve had one and it was also tuned and my 0-60 times are better in this 19. Facts!! Go get some rest old man. Your age and crankiness are showing.

TNTSierra · September 10, 2020

6 minutes ago, TXGREEK said:

That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever read in these forums! So your presumption of gains is based off of that lmao! Real world is through Dyno testing it, lmao. Anyway, Whatever helps you feel better for throwing away your money but no tunes are available for your 19 or newer that I’m aware of so add on all you want, still going to get yourself embarrassed running up against something that’s actually tuned and without any add ons.

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There are tunes available for the 19s. Also another thing you are wrong about. Man get into the game old man. You are falling way behind.

TXGREEK · September 10, 2020

Lol. Truth hurts. Actual data and logging a race doesn’t count?? So what do you think benefitted my gain?? It was basically same temp. Half tank of gas and no headwind. Come tell me old man??
I’ll take my 19 up against your 18 anyday with that terrible 8 spd that clunks all day long. I’ve had one and it was also tuned and my 0-60 times are better in this 19. Facts!! Go get some rest old man. Your age and crankiness are showing.

Hey, I’m in my early 50’s, worked hard, played even harder (still playing), owned very large amounts of just about every make vehicles, I’ve just got a whole lot more experience than you do. You can say what you want but Tunes work bolt ons don’t, Dyno test is what professionals do in order to see real gains and losses.

I’m outta here, hope you all remember what I’ve said here, “Don’t believe everything you read on the internet” go to a real custom tuner shop, that’s the best start to awaken your engine, unless of course it’s not tunable yet.

Sent from above....

TNTSierra · September 10, 2020

1 minute ago, TXGREEK said:

Hey, I’m in my early 50’s, worked hard, played even harder (still playing), owned very large amounts of just about every make vehicles, I’ve just got a whole lot more experience than you do. You can say what you want but Tunes work bolt ons don’t, Dyno test is what professionals do in order to see real gains and losses.

I’m outta here, hope you all remember what I’ve said here, “Don’t believe everything you read on the internet” go to a real custom tuner shop, that’s the best start to awaken your engine, unless of course it’s not tunable yet.

Sent from above....

Where do u think they get the actual hp and tq gains. They dyno them. Corsa. Borla. Gibson.
Yes you need to be outta here. Get some sleep and do some research. It’s terrible. You don’t even know HP Tuners offered a tune at a ridiculous price but it’s still a tune. Geez.

take care, good chat

TXGREEK · September 10, 2020

Where do u think they get the actual hp and tq gains. They dyno them. Corsa. Borla. Gibson.
Yes you need to be outta here. Get some sleep and do some research. It’s terrible. You don’t even know HP Tuners offered a tune at a ridiculous price but it’s still a tune. Geez.

take care, good chat

I’m aware that each company does their own independent Dyno testing but each one is subjective and currently it’s not illegal for companies to post their “subjective” results as part of their marketing. I’ve been looking into a full Stainless Borla exhaust myself, not for added power but for a smoother sound as well rust control. The 6.2’s are well known to exert a louder than normal sound at times low and high so I’ve been on the undecided especially since I HATE in cabin exhaust noise. Last year I installed a drop in K&N engine air filter and noticed nothing but got worried after a few buddies had negative experiences as well as bad filtration reported by independent testing. I’d install only the best but everything is subjective. Most CAI’s have reported zero gains with possible decrease in hp and or torque. I’ve got an abundance of experience, always looking for the next big thing and this is why it doesn’t matter what someone else’s hp and torque listing are, test yours independently cause without your computer telling your engine to open up more air and fuel there’s no chance you’re going to do anything but go against your current computer program.

Maybe you’ll be able to understand it this way.
If you use a bigger straw, does that mean you get more oxygen? Not unless you tell yourself to suck harder and then you’ll get dizzy cause that’s not how we’re designed. Getting more air in and more fuel is computer related, NOT add on parts related.

I’m not interested in the new GM trucks, completely turned off by major issues throughout the forums, in addition, stop start is bs in my opinion and would seem to wear on the engine.

If you think you’re getting more power by your add ons, more power to you [emoji6]go buy a tuner, that’s the only thing that’s going to turn your 6.2 into a beast, your computer will draw more air and adjust proper fuel mixture.

CYA!

TNTSierra · September 10, 2020

14 minutes ago, TXGREEK said:

I’m aware that each company does their own independent Dyno testing but each one is subjective and currently it’s not illegal for companies to post their “subjective” results as part of their marketing. I’ve been looking into a full Stainless Borla exhaust myself, not for added power but for a smoother sound as well rust control. The 6.2’s are well known to exert a louder than normal sound at times low and high so I’ve been on the undecided especially since I HATE in cabin exhaust noise. Last year I installed a drop in K&N engine air filter and noticed nothing but got worried after a few buddies had negative experiences as well as bad filtration reported by independent testing. I’d install only the best but everything is subjective. Most CAI’s have reported zero gains with possible decrease in hp and or torque. I’ve got an abundance of experience, always looking for the next big thing and this is why it doesn’t matter what someone else’s hp and torque listing are, test yours independently cause without your computer telling your engine to open up more air and fuel there’s no chance you’re going to do anything but go against your current computer program.

Maybe you’ll be able to understand it this way.
If you use a bigger straw, does that mean you get more oxygen? Not unless you tell yourself to suck harder and then you’ll get dizzy cause that’s not how we’re designed. Getting more air in and more fuel is computer related, NOT add on parts related.

I’m not interested in the new GM trucks, completely turned off by major issues throughout the forums, in addition, stop start is bs in my opinion and would seem to wear on the engine.

If you think you’re getting more power by your add ons, more power to you go buy a tuner, that’s the only thing that’s going to turn your 6.2 into a beast, your computer will draw more air and adjust proper fuel mixture.

CYA!

Now you're just scrambling and rambling. You don't have valid argument for HP/TQ gains because you do get them when you add them. SO YOU ARE WRONG!!! If you add that Borla to your truck you WILL gain HP/TQ and YOU will feel it. K&N was nice like 20 years ago, they have fallen way behind in the CAI category. There are tons of research that states S&B, Rotoafab, and cold air inductions are better. Plus, they have the research to back up their claims.

Then you switch to say you don't like the T1's....that's your opinion. My 19 is FAR SUPERIOR than my 18 ever dreamed of being. FACT!!! I owned both! And I have raced both and my aftermarket CAI plus Corsa exhaust is quicker than my tuned 18 with the terrible 8 spd!

Third, then you shift to tuning. DUH, I know tuning is the best, but currently it costs a ton of money, and this isn't what started this conversation. Stay on track! I stated that GM's performance package or an aftermarket CAI and exhaust add HP/TQ and you can feel it when you drive and it improves performance. This is a fact and I have shown you FACTS. You still couldn't answer my question on how I gained my numbers???

Fourth, you LOSE!! Move along save your money if you want too, Others will choose to spend it on nice upgrades for their trucks that they can hear and feel!!

Take care

Edited September 10, 2020 by TNTSilverado

TXGREEK · September 10, 2020

Now you're just scrambling and rambling. You don't have valid argument for HP/TQ gains because you do get them when you add them. SO YOU ARE WRONG!!! If you add that Borla to your truck you WILL gain HP/TQ and YOU will feel it. K&N was nice like 20 years ago, they have fallen way behind in the CAI category. There are tons of research that states S&B, Rotoafab, and cold air inductions are better. Plus, they have the research to back up their claims.

Then you switch to say you don't like the T1's....that's your opinion. My 19 is FAR SUPERIOR than my 18 ever dreamed of being. FACT!!! I owned both! And I have raced both and my aftermarket CAI plus Corsa exhaust is quicker than my tuned 18 with the terrible 8 spd!

Third, then you shift to tuning. DUH, I know tuning is the best, but currently it costs a ton of money, and this isn't what started this conversation. Stay on track! I stated that GM's performance package or an aftermarket CAI and exhaust add HP/TQ and you can feel it when you drive and it improves performance. This is a fact and I have shown you FACTS. You still couldn't answer my question on how I gained my numbers???

Fourth, you LOSE!! Move along save your money if you want too, Others will choose to spend it on nice upgrades for their trucks that they can hear and feel!!

Take care

Looks like you’re developing a complex, you’re unable to have a positive discussion, I’ve informed you that the computer dictates fuel mixture and air intake, you’re still lost in your made up thoughts. You’re not capable of having a logical discussion, you resort to name calling when you don’t get your way. You think new trucks are the bees knees, they’re not. I don’t buy trucks for speed, I’ve got other vehicles setup for that, my truck has been the best GM vehicle I’ve owned, buy new truck every 2-3 years and hell no will I buy a new truck, especially with all the crap on the forum. Yes, the 8 speed has been known to have issues, I’ve got zero issues, have dealership switched fluid out twice as preventative with zero current issues which is the only thing the K2’s have been the known to have. The day I get rid of this truck will be the day I quite possible will be getting into a factory lifted performance truck, Raptor as I don’t tow but hunt every weekend at the ranch which requires a lift. You can go off as you normally do when you’re not correct but doesn’t matter as your opinions are subjective to a full Dyno testing. Only a tuned computer can adjust your power ratio, everything else is just subjective and only your guess as to what you may feel and experiencing.

I’m not interested in going back and forth with you, just got off the phone with the GM of a National Off Road Company, first wonders why I’m even on these forums but completely agrees with me, says it’s unregulated marketing and doesn’t recommend add ons without an engine tune, only the inexperienced will fall for the marketing.

Well, you do know there are topic pages on these forums for parts add ons but guess they put you in your place without Dyno testing as your guessing is extremely irrelevant and seriously inadequate for the professionals, so now you’re in this “6.2 or 5.3 topic“ to this mess. Ok. good luck with your T1 and all your strap on’s.

This old man [emoji23] with lots more experience and knowledge knows better than to further a discussion with someone unwilling to have a productive and educational discussion with someone that’s stuck on an advertisement, I’m outta here......

Good luck and God Bless The United States of America!

TNTSierra · September 10, 2020

21 minutes ago, TXGREEK said:

Looks like you’re developing a complex, you’re unable to have a positive discussion, I’ve informed you that the computer dictates fuel mixture and air intake, you’re still lost in your made up thoughts. You’re not capable of having a logical discussion, you resort to name calling when you don’t get your way. You think new trucks are the bees knees, they’re not. I don’t buy trucks for speed, I’ve got other vehicles setup for that, my truck has been the best GM vehicle I’ve owned, buy new truck every 2-3 years and he’ll no will I buy a new truck, especially with all the crap on the forum. Yes, the 8 speed has been known to have issues, I’ve got zero issues, have dealership switched fluid out twice as prevents with zero current issues which is the only thing the K2’s have been the known to have. The day I get rid of this truck will be the day I quite possible will be getting into a factory lifted performance truck, Raptor as I don’t tow but hunt every weekend at the ranch which requires a lift. You can go off as you normally do when you’re not correct but doesn’t matter as your opinions are subjective to a full Dyno testing. Only a tuned computer can adjust your power ratio, everything else is just subjective and only your guess as to what you may feel and experiencing.

I’m not interested in going back and forth with you, just got off the phone with the GM of a National Off Road Company, first wonders why I’m even on these forums but completely agrees with me, says it’s unregulated marketing and doesn’t recommend add ons without an engine tune, only the inexperienced will fall for the marketing.

Well, you do know there are topic pages on these forums for parts add ons but guess they put you in your place without Dyno testing as your guessing is extremely irrelevant and seriously inadequate for the professionals, so now you’re in this “6.2 or 5.3 topic“ to this mess. Ok. good luck with your T1 and all your strap on’s.
This old man with lots more experience and knowledge knows better than to further a discussion with someone unwilling to have a productive and educational discussion with someone that’s stuck on an advertisement, I’m outta here......

Good luck and God Bless The United States of America!

You have stated 3 times you are outta here, yet you keep coming back!

If you don't wanna be on the forums, get off!

You started this conversation stating that it doesn't add power, yet it does and there are facts that show it. You don't even own a T1, so why the HECK ARE YOU ON THE T1 section. GTFO!!

I gave you numerical data on how my trucks have improved, yet all you state is they don't work, and you talk to some GM stealerships, and GM OFF Road Company..blah, blah, sure old man!! I gave you an article to read that backed up my claim. you have given me nothing but ramblings.

You keep going back to tuning, so I'll answer it for you. If you tune your truck but keep the stock intake and exhaust, then switch out the the stocks for aftermarket, do you think you will produce more HP/TQ.....the answer is YES because you are allowing the truck to breathe better.

It's no different then unhooking the battery for 2 hours on a nontuned truck for the aftermarket CAI, and adding an aftermarket exhaust. It allows the COMPUTER to relearn the amount of air flow coming in and out!!! thus, adding more HP/TQ. DO THE RESEARCH and judging by your responses you are truly lacking the knowledge!! Please follow your own directions and keep off the T1 forum... you said it, not me, so follow your own advice!

Stay on your K2 site!

Good luck and stay safe.

Edited September 10, 2020 by TNTSilverado

TXGREEK · September 10, 2020

You keep going back to tuning, so I'll answer it for you. If you tune your truck but keep the stock intake and exhaust, then switch out the the stocks for aftermarket, do you think you will produce more HP/TQ.....the answer is YES because you are allowing the truck to breathe better.

Lol, my point is made, strapping your add ons requires tuning in order for your engine to benefit from them.

Ok, be safe.

TNTSierra · September 10, 2020

15 minutes ago, TXGREEK said:

You keep going back to tuning, so I'll answer it for you. If you tune your truck but keep the stock intake and exhaust, then switch out the the stocks for aftermarket, do you think you will produce more HP/TQ.....the answer is YES because you are allowing the truck to breathe better.

Lol, my point is made, strapping your add ons requires tuning in order for your engine to benefit from them.

Ok, be safe.

Again, you come back!! So now your a liar who is also lacking knowledge. Thanks for proving my point again.

Strapping my add on ADDS MORE POWER, whether you tune or not tune...that's the point and it flew right over your head

Also, I never called you any names, this is the first time i called you anything, but you should be calling yourself that.......you stated you shouldn't be on here!! SOOOOO blame yourself

Edited September 10, 2020 by TNTSilverado

amxguy1970 · September 10, 2020

18 hours ago, TNTSilverado said:

The gains are 12 hp and 6 lbs ft of tq for the GM performance package with duals. I just got done reading that you can tell the difference from stock unit.
I put a Corsa and CAI on mine and I can tell a huge difference. To each their own. The facts point to an increase in HP/TQ

here is the article. https://www.offroadxtreme.com/engine-tech/exhaust/adding-power-to-a-next-gen-silverado-with-chevrolet-performance/

The article clearly states "Up To", you aren't getting the full set in their specific test environment results. The intake and exhaust aren't particularly restrictive in these things so you aren't getting big gains, especially those that are measurable in a 3 ton brick; that 15 hp won't register on the old butt dyno but it does in the old ears "AKA placebo dyno". The proper term is you can hear the difference. I bet those numbers they provide are engine dyno numbers and not wheel numbers.

17 hours ago, TNTSilverado said:

Funny I call your bluff. You stated no fact. You stated a stealership claims no HP/TQ bump without reprogramming the computer. That’s the biggest LIE I’ve ever heard. Better read up buttercup. Read the article. Those are true facts!

On my 2018 SLT 6.2L I gained a half a truck length on my fathers eco bust after adding the 2. I then tuned it and gained over truck and half. Now after getting my new 19 HC with a 6.2L. I gained .3 secs by adding my exhaust and intake.

say what you want but there are others on here that will also prove you wrong because they have added the performance package or another after market exhaust and intake and have seen gains.

In what world is 0.3 tenths a "huge difference"? In a 20 foot long truck trapping in the mid to upper 90's that is less than two truck lengths over a 1/4 mile. How did you measure your 0.3? Same day same time and same temp? Weather has big impacts on performance, so if you ran stock on an 87 degree day then ran with the mods on a 73 degree night that right there is your 0.3 in the 1/4.

17 hours ago, TNTSilverado said:

Back to reality for everyone else. Spend your money the way you want too. The FACTS are that adding performance exhaust and CAI does improve performance. Read up. There are tons of articles out there proving me right.

Also the new 5.3 and 10 spd are very nice. GM shoulda came out with this from the get go and by passed the 8 spd.

It does add performance, a very negligible amount. In the performance car world you don't see the full gains without a tune to take advantage of it, no one does that to gain performance if they know what they are doing, they add it to compliment other parts. Putting an intake and exhaust on a stock truck is done pretty much for sound and to add to that look at me factor. What is funny is adding those parts to a lifted or leveled truck with larger wheels, tires or E-rated tires and you are still slower than a stock truck without those goodies. I would much rather get a tune for less than half the $2k price and actually gain some power and change how it drives, though that is not warranty safe. To each their own, I can find a much better way to spend 2 grand that actually makes an impact for me to notice.

Tyler

KARNUT · September 10, 2020

I added exhaust an open air cleaner to all my trucks since the 70s. Cars too. Yes the performance increases did decrease over time because the manufacturers finally got a clue by going cold air and less restrictive exhaust. It didn’t matter to me I still loved the sound. That made it feel faster. That was all that matter to me. How many people are taking these trucks to the track? Not many. Sound makes it seem faster, that’s all that matters.

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TNTSierra · September 10, 2020

35 minutes ago, amxguy1970 said:

The article clearly states "Up To", you aren't getting the full set in their specific test environment results. The intake and exhaust aren't particularly restrictive in these things so you aren't getting big gains, especially those that are measurable in a 3 ton brick; that 15 hp won't register on the old butt dyno but it does in the old ears "AKA placebo dyno". The proper term is you can hear the difference. I bet those numbers they provide are engine dyno numbers and not wheel numbers.

In what world is 0.3 tenths a "huge difference"? In a 20 foot long truck trapping in the mid to upper 90's that is less than two truck lengths over a 1/4 mile. How did you measure your 0.3? Same day same time and same temp? Weather has big impacts on performance, so if you ran stock on an 87 degree day then ran with the mods on a 73 degree night that right there is your 0.3 in the 1/4.

It does add performance, a very negligible amount. In the performance car world you don't see the full gains without a tune to take advantage of it, no one does that to gain performance if they know what they are doing, they add it to compliment other parts. Putting an intake and exhaust on a stock truck is done pretty much for sound and to add to that look at me factor. What is funny is adding those parts to a lifted or leveled truck with larger wheels, tires or E-rated tires and you are still slower than a stock truck without those goodies. I would much rather get a tune for less than half the $2k price and actually gain some power and change how it drives, though that is not warranty safe. To each their own, I can find a much better way to spend 2 grand that actually makes an impact for me to notice.

Tyler

The article states you can tell a noticeable difference. If you have ever taken off the stock exhaust, the flapper restriction is almost 50%. It's unreal how restrictive it is. The dyno numbers are for the flywheel not rear wheel, but any gain is better than none at all. You can tell the difference between the too, and that's what the article states.

As a stated I ran the truck on days with almost same temp, and no head wind, half tank of gas, and did it with an app. The .3 secs is in 0-60 times. I agree weather has not a big impact but a HUGE impact on performance. I enjoy racing my truck and going against my family who is mainly Furd owners, makes it even better.

I totally agree that a tune WAKES an engine up, but with the cost so high, many don't do it. I have a total of $1650 in my S&B CAI and Corsa Exhaust and it made a huge difference on performance. I don't have over $2k into it like GM charges and no-where near the $3k+ it needs to be tuned. Anyone can buy the parts directly through GM parts direct for about $1800. I wanted more performance, no more flappers---restrictions, more sound, and overall better driving truck. I do have that know with this setup. It performs better now then my tuned 2018 with a 6.2L and 8 spd. That tranny killed the performance of that truck. This new 10 spd is amazing. If I choose to I can always tune it for more power, but I'm leaning towards keeping my warranty and just buying my kids a new jet-ski instead. They come before me know.

I agree, I am not into lifted trucks at all, never liked them, and it truly kills the performance of the vehicle. It's not for me, many like it, and it's their money they can do what they want with it. I've said that also, "to each their own"

Take Care