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I’m really digging the Trail Boss, looks like it means business.


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4 hours ago, TXGREEK said:

But, that said, the 6.2 isn’t as you’ve described, there have been numerous tests performed between the two and the 6.2 always came out with flying colors.

 

For anyone on the border line between the two, here’s a video on both, towing experiences on the 5.3 versus 6.2

Watched that TFL video, thought I had seen them all but I guess not that one. In this particular video, that test was pretty subjective though, getting it up the Ike challenge would be a better comparison as they time it. Not sure they do one with the 5.3 and 6.2 both with a 10 speed. TFL has a habit of not comparing apples to apples when doing their comparison tests which always irks me.

 

However, getting back to the 6.2, it tows less however it is quicker and yet more costly (both in terms of gas cost and engine pricing). Not sure that counts as "flying colors". Its definitely a great engine, but it really doesn't offer anything except being a bit faster getting up to speed. Too many downsides and not enough upsides IMO.

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I had a 2012 F150 FX4  3.5 Ecoboost for many years before trading it on my 6.2- Midnight edition Trail Boss.  Driving the 6.2 after first driving a 5.3 Trail Boss was all I needed to convince me that I wanted the 6.2. 

The 5.3 ran respectably but the 6.2 felt much more aggressive and responsive...authoritative.  Coming from a stage 1 built Ecoboost the 6.2 swayed me to the other side!!

 

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I had a 2012 F150 FX4  3.5 Ecoboost for many years before trading it on my 6.2- Midnight edition Trail Boss.  Driving the 6.2 after first driving a 5.3 Trail Boss was all I needed to convince me that I wanted the 6.2. 
The 5.3 ran respectably but the 6.2 felt much more aggressive and responsive...authoritative.  Coming from a stage 1 built Ecoboost the 6.2 swayed me to the other side!!
 

That’s it! The word “Authoritarian” best fits the 6.2. Both are great motors for what they are but the 6.2 demands more respect as it’s a much more “Authoritarian” motor setup.


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2 hours ago, TXGREEK said:

That’s it! The word “Authoritarian” best fits the 6.2. Both are great motors for what they are but the 6.2 demands more respect as it’s a much more “Authoritarian” motor setup.

Honestly that sounds like a child trying to justify their purchase. I'm not saying you're a child, just sounds like it, especially the "demands more respect" part. It sounds like someone who isn't comfortable in their own skin and lacks confidence. And reading through the multiple pages of comments here (I hadn't earlier when I first posted), I wonder why TXGREEK you seemed to be so worked up about the 6.2?

 

Anyways, I don't buy trucks to be "authoritarian" or "authoritative" or to "demand respect". I buy them to do the job I need done. For me that's offroad capability so I can get to my cabin in the mountains and eventually once I've broken in the truck, I'll be getting a 6K-7K lb travel trailer for camping elsewhere. I've had my fair share of racing at stoplights when I was younger and a scare when I got pulled over for doing that (here in NC that's as bad as getting a DUI). I don't race anyone anymore and I laugh at people who want to try to do that with me.

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Honestly that sounds like a child trying to justify their purchase. I'm not saying you're a child, just sounds like it, especially the "demands more respect" part. It sounds like someone who isn't comfortable in their own skin and lacks confidence. And reading through the multiple pages of comments here (I hadn't earlier when I first posted), I wonder why TXGREEK you seemed to be so worked up about the 6.2?
 
Anyways, I don't buy trucks to be "authoritarian" or "authoritative" or to "demand respect". I buy them to do the job I need done. For me that's offroad capability so I can get to my cabin in the mountains and eventually once I've broken in the truck, I'll be getting a 6K-7K lb travel trailer for camping elsewhere. I've had my fair share of racing at stoplights when I was younger and a scare when I got pulled over for doing that (here in NC that's as bad as getting a DUI). I don't race anyone anymore and I laugh at people who want to try to do that with me.

That’s fine but when all is said and done, you bought a V8 and not a 4 or 6 cylinder because it is much more authoritarian than the 4’s or 6’s, the 5.3 is a great motor, both have been around a while, one just has much more hp and torque than the other and does cost more and prefers Pwemium too. There’s no reason not to buy either.


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How much power does it take to haul a half a ton? Wait, there is no such thing as a half ton truck anymore. It's just a name. Well how much power is 'overkill'? I'm not talking about the amount required to satisfy your ego. The amount required to 'do the job" What's the job? Match the power train to the job and that is the right motor. If you regret buying the motor matched to the job the problem isn't the motor. It's the ego. IMHO of course.  

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Mashing the gas in “auto 4x4” from stop lights to amuse myself is sometimes the only job. And the 6.2 does that the best.
 

The 19 5.3 8 speed LT I drove for a few days did it pretty well too though. I won’t dog on the 5.3 in this generation, they tuned it nice and the diet helped. Keeping the options light also helps. I betcha the stripped down 6.2s are real rockets. Either a no option RST NHT or even a Custom TB with street tires...probably just a few hairs over 5 seconds to sixty if I had to guess.

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For most of us, the 0-60 time difference between the 5.3L and the 6.2L isn’t as big of a deal as 40-80mph. 


I’ve not been at all disappointed with my 5.3L from take off. It’s snappy. But the 40-80 range getting on the highway for a fast merge leaves a little to be desired with the 5.3L, IMO. 

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How much power does it take to haul a half a ton? Wait, there is no such thing as a half ton truck anymore. It's just a name. Well how much power is 'overkill'? I'm not talking about the amount required to satisfy your ego. The amount required to 'do the job" What's the job? Match the power train to the job and that is the right motor. If you regret buying the motor matched to the job the problem isn't the motor. It's the ego. IMHO of course.  

Coming from ownership of both, the 5.3 and 6.2, there’s no such thing as having to much or more than required, the problem facing most is, what can one afford. Having an ego doesn’t push someone to buy a larger motor or a larger gun, having the ability to get much much more done does.


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For most of us, the 0-60 time difference between the 5.3L and the 6.2L isn’t as big of a deal as 40-80mph. 

I’ve not been at all disappointed with my 5.3L from take off. It’s snappy. But the 40-80 range getting on the highway for a fast merge leaves a little to be desired with the 5.3L, IMO. 

Absolutely correct, you’ve gotta own one to really appreciate the big differences. Most look to less is good enough but for us that load and lift or just enjoy not hearing the motor strain, the 6.2 is definitely the right choice. My 14 5.3 was a dog compared to my 18 6.2, especially now that it’s tuned, gotta watch the acceleration as it’s constantly breaking lose when I get after it, NO 5.3 I’ve driven has ever done that and while lifted with heavier tires. I’d imagine changing out the gears would bald my tires lol. I did drive both, the 2020 5.3 and 6.2, noticed the smoother transmission but also the quicker acceleration in the 6.2 from the 5.3, didn’t strain as much either.


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Sorry, a bit off topic, I saw a really pretty grey Trail Boss yesterday, I know, having experiences with both, I’d never go back to the smaller motor and happy that the 6.2 is now offered in the Trail Boss

 

 

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23 minutes ago, econometrics said:

For most of us, the 0-60 time difference between the 5.3L and the 6.2L isn’t as big of a deal as 40-80mph. 


I’ve not been at all disappointed with my 5.3L from take off. It’s snappy. But the 40-80 range getting on the highway for a fast merge leaves a little to be desired with the 5.3L, IMO. 

By this logic Honda Civic like cars should be ban from the Interstates. 

 

I was followed up an on ramp today by a semi tractor on a clover leaf exchange. The semi already in the lane I'm merging into gave the lane shifting left. Semi and semi is a tough tangle. I've done this merge countless times. Had I been alone this fellow would not have given me a foot breadth of lane. What to do. 4500 pound SUV with a 2.4 liter NA motor? Brakes work as well as the loud pedal. Egos kill more people than a lack of power. Imagine a world where every vehicle on the road is a Dodge Hellcat. OMG. 717 hp and it's still not enough?

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I can get safely on and off the Interstate in a 50 Ford with a 60 hp flathead pulling an airstream or a 36 hp VW bug.

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By this logic Honda Civic like cars should be ban from the Interstates. 

 

I was followed up an on ramp today by a semi tractor on a clover leaf exchange. The semi already in the lane I'm merging into gave the lane shifting left. Semi and semi is a tough tangle. I've done this merge countless times. Had I been alone this fellow would not have given me a foot breadth of lane. What to do. 4500 pound SUV with a 2.4 liter NA motor? Brakes work as well as the loud pedal. Egos kill more people than a lack of power. Imagine a world where every vehicle on the road is a Dodge Hellcat. OMG. 717 hp and it's still not enough?

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I can get safely on and off the Interstate in a 50 Ford with a 60 hp flathead pulling an airstream or a 36 hp VW bug.

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Ignorance kills more people than ego. I believe one having an ego would rather flaunt it than run it but when that’s all said and done it’s not just that switching lanes kills far more people than going straight line, it’s having the power to go, get out of the way or passing power on interstates with 75 mph speed limits, that’s the problem. Having the extra power and not needing it is far better than not having enough power but needing it.

 

In the 90’s, I was driving my full size bronco doing about 70 in a 65, out of no where an elderly woman decided to enter the freeway just as I was getting onto the right lane to exit. I slammed into her, tossing her old four door mercury into the air and later she said she knew she should’ve been going faster when getting onto the freeway but she said her car wouldn’t go faster. Having the power when needed is always a plus, usually a life saver.

 

Btw, speed doesn’t kill, stupidity does. Knowing your limits keeps you in the safe zone and there’s always the chance someone in a CRV will pull out in front of you as they usually do, stupid is as stupid does, just got to be prepared for anything out there.

 

 

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21 hours ago, OnTheReel said:

Mashing the gas in “auto 4x4” from stop lights to amuse myself is sometimes the only job. And the 6.2 does that the best.
 

The 19 5.3 8 speed LT I drove for a few days did it pretty well too though. I won’t dog on the 5.3 in this generation, they tuned it nice and the diet helped. Keeping the options light also helps. I betcha the stripped down 6.2s are real rockets. Either a no option RST NHT or even a Custom TB with street tires...probably just a few hairs over 5 seconds to sixty if I had to guess.

I agree.  I’m still a kid at heart sometimes and love mashing on it

Also I’ve owned 2 K2 5.3L and they were hindered by the transmissions. The new 5.3L 10 spd combo and weight loss really wakes the 5.3L. Drove stepfathers all weekend at cabin and it’s nice and peppy. He is also averaging 21 mpgs with just over 2k miles.  The best he ever achieved with his eco bust was 17 mpgs 

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