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L86 All Terrain Senior Enthusiast

L86 All Terrain

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14 hours ago, amxguy1970 said:

Gone? Because you see a few cases on the forums of failures? That is called making a mountain out of a mole hill. No design flaw, the system is extremely reliable and most everyone has not had an issue. Don't make it more than it is, as the iterations go on they get more and more reliable, this isn't 2007. I know you may have a skewed vision because of an issue happening to you but the failure rate is in the decimal percent. 

 

Tyler

I haven't had a lifter issue. But there are certainly enough online to say that the new LT motor's systems, be it AFM or DFM, seem to have lost reliability when compared to the LS engine family with AFM. 

 

I've been on this forum for about a decade, I don't recall seeing collapsed lifter threads on the LS motors like we are now with the LT's. Surely they happened, but seeing a new "collapsed lifters" thread nearly weekly doesn't inspire confidence in terms of longevity in my mind. I have felt the harsh kick downs when V4 mode kicks in, anyone of those hard engagements could collapse a lifter at any time. If I planned to keep an AFM truck for over 5 years I would do the full delete and oil pump replacement. But personally, I have 3 AFM trucks in the past and only have issues with the 2014, no collapsed lifters, but when it kicks in it can cause the trans to drop 3 gears and lock in second, often screeching the tires. An engine without these lifters is obviously more reliable than OHV small blocks with DOD/AFM systems, a little early to tell with the 7.3L

wforrest08 Senior Enthusiast

wforrest08

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This is just more proof of why you don’t but a first year anything...

 

I fail to understand why this is such a hard concept for people?

NE18 Enthusiast

NE18

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Given the 7.3 is replacing the venerable v10, furd will make it right. This engine will be in many commercial platforms so they can’t afford to mess it up. On a related note I read furd spent $5 billion dollars last year in warranty claims. By the end of 2020 all of their vehicles will have modems and be “connected” and they’re hoping to catch minor problems before they grow into expensive ones. My guess Is they’ll be denying some warranties with the collected info. 

j-ten-ner Senior Enthusiast

j-ten-ner

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On 2/25/2020 at 3:08 PM, Colossus said:

Notice it said owner letters will not be mailed out? 

 

On 2/25/2020 at 3:27 PM, RE1 said:

They’re gonna wait for the warranty claims on blown engines. 

'The affected vehicles may have had..."

 

I guess that's exactly what they're doing. Waiting it out.

 

so long

j-ten-ner

9c1fanatic Enthusiast

9c1fanatic

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17 minutes ago, NE18 said:

Given the 7.3 is replacing the venerable v10, furd will make it right. This engine will be in many commercial platforms so they can’t afford to mess it up. On a related note I read furd spent $5 billion dollars last year in warranty claims. By the end of 2020 all of their vehicles will have modems and be “connected” and they’re hoping to catch minor problems before they grow into expensive ones. My guess Is they’ll be denying some warranties with the collected info. 

No doubt.  I heard a Ford presentation on their upcoming "Ford Telematics".  Scary stuff in my opinion.  All of the OEMs will be doing it soon.  It wont be long before we are all placing the responsibility of our safety, and our freedom in the hands of Apple, Google and the like.  And the guy over in silicon valley programming the behavior of our autonomous vehicles likely has never driven a car himself, and depends on Uber and public transportation to get around.  I'm holding out as long as I can to stay out of a vehicle that can be hacked into.

poconojoe Enthusiast

poconojoe

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This thread got me thinking about those Ford Triton engines that spit out their spark plugs. Ford screwed so many customers on that one. They made up bogus excuses not to make good on the flaw. 

A friend if mine was driving his E250 van and heard a pop then an air compression sound. We took a look and there was a spark plug laying on the engine. The coil pack was destroyed. Anyway, it never got fixed. It was very difficult to reach in there on that van. Maybe a pickup truck or car would have been easier to access. The fix was to drill it out and install a heli-coil. All at the owner's expense...of course. Way to go Ford. Good way to lose customers.

KARNUT Senior Enthusiast

KARNUT

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I had a couple of those. The trick was not to over tighten and never seize. I know we hate changes. GM does weird stuff too. Was changing fluids in my latest GM ride. The rear end fluid was always full till it runs out. This one is fill until 1/4 inch below fill hole. Stupid right? Always read the manual.


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Colossus Senior Enthusiast

Colossus

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If Ford and GM want to be successful they need to improve long term reliability, provide better warranties, and stand behind their products. 

poconojoe Enthusiast

poconojoe

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21 minutes ago, Colossus said:

If Ford and GM want to be successful they need to improve long term reliability, provide better warranties, and stand behind their products. 

Yeah, that makes so much sense, so why isn't it the norm? Ha! Rhetorical question. 

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