Coronavirus

Ithan Henry · April 24, 2020

Here's a crazy idea that I had about re-opening the country. If a person wants to go out and take a chance that they get infected with COVID-19, because they really needed a haircut or just had to go into that casino, then there are consequences if they do get infected. They get placed on the bottom of the list for medical treatment, no matter how severe the symptoms. Their insurance doesn't cover the cost, because they disregarded social distancing recommendations.

And this is absolutely reasonable, because if you're willing to run the risk, then that risk shouldn't become a financial burden for an insurance company or medical facility. People at high risk pay higher premiums for both health and life insurance. If you still want coverage to take that risk, then be prepared to pay a significantly higher premium for your insurance.

Any takers? Still wanna risk it under these conditions?

KARNUT · April 24, 2020

Here's a crazy idea that I had about re-opening the country. If a person wants to go out and take a chance that they get infected with COVID-19, because they really needed a haircut or just had to go into that casino, then there are consequences if they do get infected. They get placed on the bottom of the list for medical treatment, no matter how severe the symptoms. Their insurance doesn't cover the cost, because they disregarded social distancing recommendations.

And this is absolutely reasonable, because if you're willing to run the risk, then that risk shouldn't become a financial burden for an insurance company or medical facility. People at high risk pay higher premiums for both health and life insurance. If you still want coverage to take that risk, then be prepared to pay a significantly higher premium for your insurance.

Any takers? Still wanna risk it under these conditions?

Well first off there appears to be more infected people who didn’t realize it than originally thought. So let’s take your thoughts a-bit farther. And add other at risk as you call it behavior. So you’re insurance will cover you at one price to only go back and forth to work. Any extra driving for anything other you pay more money. All you have to do is consent to is tracking. And they get to say what at risk behavior is. You gamed? There’s lots of things that can be done and still social distance. You give an business owner an opportunity, they’ll surprise people. This isn’t a one size fits all.

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KARNUT · April 24, 2020

It stopped being informative, and veered into stupid & dangerous, when Chump started spitballing. Smart people stop talking once they are out of information. s.m.r.t. people keep going.

Yes I see

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mikemcclain8 · April 24, 2020

21 minutes ago, Ithan Henry said:

Here's a crazy idea that I had about re-opening the country. If a person wants to go out and take a chance that they get infected with COVID-19, because they really needed a haircut or just had to go into that casino, then there are consequences if they do get infected. They get placed on the bottom of the list for medical treatment, no matter how severe the symptoms. Their insurance doesn't cover the cost, because they disregarded social distancing recommendations.

And this is absolutely reasonable, because if you're willing to run the risk, then that risk shouldn't become a financial burden for an insurance company or medical facility. People at high risk pay higher premiums for both health and life insurance. If you still want coverage to take that risk, then be prepared to pay a significantly higher premium for your insurance.

Any takers? Still wanna risk it under these conditions?

Same could go for people who won't wear helmets on motorcycles. Sign a waiver that says the ER won't treat you. What about people who eat fast food? Lowest on the list for cardiac care?

Ithan Henry · April 24, 2020

5 minutes ago, mikemcclain8 said:

Same could go for people who won't wear helmets on motorcycles. Sign a waiver that says the ER won't treat you. What about people who eat fast food? Lowest on the list for cardiac care?

Absolutely. When you get life insurance all of these things are factored into your premium. My policy prohibits me from racing SCCA which I used to do. I pay a higher premium for my wife's pre-existing condition so yeah, let's even the playing field.

Ithan Henry · April 24, 2020

16 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

Well first off there appears to be more infected people who didn’t realize it than originally thought. So let’s take your thoughts a-bit farther. And add other at risk as you call it behavior. So you’re insurance will cover you at one price to only go back and forth to work. Any extra driving for anything other you pay more money. All you have to do is consent to is tracking. And they get to say what at risk behavior is. You gamed? There’s lots of things that can be done and still social distance. You give an business owner an opportunity, they’ll surprise people. This isn’t a one size fits all.

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I'm game. Lets not pretend that we're not already being tracked by our cell phones or modern day vehicles. As for risk behavior, sure, give me a list so I can determine if it's worth it to me. There's been so much talk about how the economy and how it's being hurt. If we open up the economy again and there's a surge of people in hospitals, won't that tank the insurance companies that have to pay for the services? Or how about people that can't afford insurance and would potentially have huge medical bills to pay. They're financially burdened and if they never pay, then those providing the services are now burdened.

KARNUT · April 24, 2020

I'm game. Lets not pretend that we're not already being tracked by our cell phones or modern day vehicles. As for risk behavior, sure, give me a list so I can determine if it's worth it to me. There's been so much talk about how the economy and how it's being hurt. If we open up the economy again and there's a surge of people in hospitals, won't that tank the insurance companies that have to pay for the services? Or how about people that can't afford insurance and would potentially have huge medical bills to pay. They're financially burdened and if they never pay, then those providing the services are now burdened.

So far it appears the government is already under writing most of this. If the states go by the phases they’ll probably under right that too. Remember most of the people going forward who are most at risk are people who should stay home. We’re finally getting away from the first wave. The ones who weren’t warned. Now we know. We can proceed with caution.

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Ithan Henry · April 24, 2020

1 minute ago, KARNUT said:

So far it appears the government is already under writing most of this. If the states go by the phases they’ll probably under right that too. Remember most of the people going forward who are most at risk are people who should stay home. We’re finally getting away from the first wave. The ones who weren’t warned. Now we know. We can proceed with caution.

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Agreed. With Georgia opening up today, we'll find out how the southern states should fare with warmer climates. I hope everything goes well, cause I've got family down there and Georgia is a beautiful state to visit.

Colossus · April 24, 2020

20 hours ago, j-ten-ner said:

I think that you missed the point.

Nah I didn't miss it. I'm a pretty good shot.

KARNUT · April 24, 2020

The story of the malaria drug rolls on. It may be not as affected as originally hoped. In the beginning there was nothing to battle the bug. It shows promise. An excited president makes it known about the encouraging reports. Oh Oh, the kiss of death. Trump encouraging the drug. Now the opposition has to find a way to discourage its use and demonized the president. Even if there’s just a percentage it helped. It helped. The only thing I may add. If you had stage 4 lung cancer, would you take chemotherapy? Look up those odds and side effects, brutal. I’ve seen it, not pretty.

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Ithan Henry · April 24, 2020

43 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

The story of the malaria drug rolls on. It may be not as affected as originally hoped. In the beginning there was nothing to battle the bug. It shows promise. An excited president makes it known about the encouraging reports. Oh Oh, the kiss of death. Trump encouraging the drug. Now the opposition has to find a way to discourage its use and demonized the president. Even if there’s just a percentage it helped. It helped. The only thing I may add. If you had stage 4 lung cancer, would you take chemotherapy? Look up those odds and side effects, brutal. I’ve seen it, not pretty.

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There seems to be a shortage of the hydroxycloroquine now, which is a new problem for people that were actually taking it for lupus.

https://www.lupus.org/news/fda-recognizes-hydroxychloroquine-and-chloroquine-shortages

Trump causes all of his own problems. If he were willing to admit when he's wrong, instead of diverting the blame or claiming that he was misunderstood, then he'd get more support. I'm not saying everyone, obviously there are people that won't change their minds and that's on both sides. And I'm not just referencing this pandemic. For the past 3 years he has yet to admit any mistakes on his part. It's always someone else's fault. All great leaders admit their shortcomings and try to grow from them. All past presidents have done this. Unfortunately, Trump is incapable of owning up to his mistakes and this has and always will cause friction with the media.

KARNUT · April 24, 2020

There seems to be a shortage of the hydroxycloroquine now, which is a new problem for people that were actually taking it for lupus.

https://www.lupus.org/news/fda-recognizes-hydroxychloroquine-and-chloroquine-shortages

Trump causes all of his own problems. If he were willing to admit when he's wrong, instead of diverting the blame or claiming that he was misunderstood, then he'd get more support. I'm not saying everyone, obviously there are people that won't change their minds and that's on both sides. And I'm not just referencing this pandemic. For the past 3 years he has yet to admit any mistakes on his part. It's always someone else's fault. All great leaders admit their shortcomings and try to grow from them. All past presidents have done this. Unfortunately, Trump is incapable of owning up to his mistakes and this has and always will cause friction with the media.

After at least 3 unfounded investigations. He has no choice to act the way he does. They’re gearing up for 2 more presently. Showing any kind of weakness, kiss of death.

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Ithan Henry · April 24, 2020

17 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

After at least 3 unfounded investigations. He has no choice to act the way he does. They’re gearing up for 2 more presently. Showing any kind of weakness, kiss of death.

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He acted like this his entire life. And admitting one's mistakes is not a weakness.

Just saw the president say that he sarcastically made the comments about disinfectants to see what the press would say. What would he expect people to do when he makes those statements?

Birx said the president made the comments because he hadn't fully digested the scientific info he was briefed on.

The new press secretary said the media irresponsibly took his statements out of context.

They really need to sit down and get their story straight.

Edited April 24, 2020 by Ithan Henry

The Zip · April 24, 2020

26 minutes ago, Ithan Henry said:

He acted like this his entire life. And admitting one's mistakes is not a weakness.

Just saw the president say that he sarcastically made the comments about disinfectants to see what the press would say. What would he expect people to do when he makes those statements?

Birx said the president made the comments because he hadn't fully digested the scientific info he was briefed on.

The new press secretary said the media irresponsibly took his statements out of context.

They really need to sit down and get their story straight.

I normally like bits and pieces of a post because they ramble on too long. But everything here are good points. As for the virus, there are tons of viruses, most not as deadly as others, but that is not the reason I will sit tight. Lack of satisfactory information and testing on behalf of this virus will cause me to sit tight.

Sidebar; I saw a picture of Trump throwing down a box of Clorox chewables, based on the context just thought that was pretty funny.

Edited April 24, 2020 by The Zip

KARNUT · April 24, 2020

He likes to throw things around to get feed back. His mistake was doing it around the unfriendly. The middle finger to the press tonight was priceless, by not taking questions. My last political post tonight before I get a warning.[emoji106]

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