Transmission Flush question

[Marcusatx]

So I had a question for the guys with a little more experience which is probably all of you. I’ve got 67,000 miles on my 2017 all-terrain X. I took it In to get the differential, transfer case, brake, transmission and pretty much everything else that should’ve been done at 45,000…

 

They called me to to ask me if I was having any problems with the shifting or shuttering because they weren’t recommending the transmission fluid flush and less I was having issues. I mean I feel like there’s issues but from reading enough posts and other reports... I think mine is probably par for the course with as many complaints as there is about the eight speed which I know they understand all that so for them to discourage me from doing the fluid change I was just trying to get a understanding in layman‘s terms of why I would avoid doing that or maybe understand why they would discourage me from doing something they recommend in the manual. I didn’t get a very good vibe from the service department salesman I’ll call him. I’m attaching our conversation about the brake pads we had. I just want to feel that I’m doing the right thing by not getting the fluid changed in the transmission. 

[CamGTP]

I'd have no problems with getting all that stuff done at this mileage. If they don't want to take your money, go to another dealership that will.

 

The mileage you may be seeing in the owners manual could be stuff that should get changed under the most severe cases. I doubt you are putting 9,000lbs behind your truck everyday and beating the snot out of it all the time.

 

The front and rear diff can be done with ease on the garage floor and same with the transfer case. It's a drain and fill on the transfer case and front diff. The rear diff I just suck the fluid out and add new fluid back in.

[Grumpy Bear]

Does this truck have a transmission dip stick? If so pull it and look at the fluid. If it doesn't look new (transparent red) change it. If it looks brown or opaque it's trouble. It doesn't have to be hot to do this. 

 

I tow or haul nothing and I doubt anyone babies there ride more than I (driving). Mine was brown by 50 K miles. 

[Marcusatx]

They just kept trying to tell me it was sealed and I really wouldn’t have questioned anything except when I couldn’t find the brake pad thickness and he texted me and was telling me that well I had upgraded break pads and I said did y’all do that because nobody else did...

[Colossus]

As long as the existing fluid is not burnt, I WOULD have a transmission service done and make sure they add a good tranny additive like the BG Tranny product.  Make sure they do the transmission flush done RIGHT.  (with the right machine which allows the tranny pump to pump out the old fluid and bring in the new fluid)  Just because it's a "sealed" unit doesn't mean the fluid doesn't go bad. 

Edited September 12, 2020 by Colossus

[catpartsman]

Can’t really comment on the trans fluid change because i have a 6 speed tranny. As far as brake pads, I got 107,000 on my OEM pads and they still weren’t 100% wore out. The fronts and tears still had about 15% left on them. If you don’t tow or haul heavy items and are gentle on the brakes, I’d let them go. With 50% still showing, you’re good for a while in my opinion.


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[Grumpy Bear]

5 hours ago, Colossus said:

As long as the existing fluid is not burnt, I WOULD have a transmission service done and make sure they add a good tranny additive like the BG Tranny product.  Make sure they do the transmission flush done RIGHT.  (with the right machine which allows the tranny pump to pump out the old fluid and bring in the new fluid)  Just because it's a "sealed" unit doesn't mean the fluid doesn't go bad. 

X2

 

[Marcusatx]

Yeah that seemed absolutely crazy to me too. I’m not gonna lie this is my first new vehicle experience ever and I told myself that I wanted to get a vehicle brand new and maintain it so I wasn’t buying some ****** somebody else had not taken care of. This thing has a class action lawsuit against the transmission, Every time I come in this forum because I have an issue or something that feels weird I find pages of people with the same issue… I appreciate the help everybody

[Black02Silverado]

I change out my transmission fluid at 10k miles. But then I switch it over to AMSOIL so that is why so early.  But if you want to keep your vehicle and as trouble free as possible then transmission fluid changes at every 45k miles is a good idea.  Considering most don't put that many miles on their ride in a short time. The cost is well worth it.  Most don't do anything to the transmission and then wonder why they are having issues when they get to 100k miles. 

 

If you want to go longer then running a full synthetic like AMSOIL will keep it going.  I had 200,000 on my 2002 and I ran the last run of AMSOIL ATF up to 100,000 miles and had a sample sent off and it came back in great shape with very little wear material.  This is even towing a 4klbs. 10' x 20' box trailer once or so a month over a two year period.

[Colossus]

4 hours ago, Black02Silverado said:

  Most don't do anything to the transmission and then wonder why they are having issues when they get to 100k miles. 

 

Lots of old wives tales out there still about tranny flushing.  You get a number of people who have never serviced their tranny and then decide to do a flush at 150,000 miles for the first time and then wonder why the tranny fails soon after.  But the fact is, if you service it on a regular basis it really does help.  Sadly the manufacturers are having owners manuals printed up to reflect "lifetime" fluids and "sealed/no need to service" units.  This is very very stupid on their part. 

[Grumpy Bear]

6 hours ago, Colossus said:

Lots of old wives tales out there still about tranny flushing.  You get a number of people who have never serviced their tranny and then decide to do a flush at 150,000 miles for the first time and then wonder why the tranny fails soon after.  But the fact is, if you service it on a regular basis it really does help.  Sadly the manufacturers are having owners manuals printed up to reflect "lifetime" fluids and "sealed/no need to service" units.  This is very very stupid on their part. 

Again, X2.

They do not value their reputations anymore. 

 

Wife's Terrain has a transmission filter but you have to take the transmission completely apart to change it?

Old iron is looking better and better.

[KARNUT]

Lots of old wives tales out there still about tranny flushing.  You get a number of people who have never serviced their tranny and then decide to do a flush at 150,000 miles for the first time and then wonder why the tranny fails soon after.  But the fact is, if you service it on a regular basis it really does help.  Sadly the manufacturers are having owners manuals printed up to reflect "lifetime" fluids and "sealed/no need to service" units.  This is very very stupid on their part. 

My Avalanche has a very detailed maintenance log. At 167K when I bought it nothing was said about the transmission. I exchanged the fluid twice in two weeks. The fluid looked and smelled fine. My brother in law a Chevy only driver keeps his vehicles to 300K miles. Changes his at 60K miles. He has 3 going with over 200K.


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[Marcusatx]

And I guess that’s why I’m trying to understand why the dealer would suggest that it was at the dealership for the transmission flush And he called me to talk me out of doing it. He was acting like it was an cost thing, And like it was going to be so much more because of the specific transmission I am really just trying to get some feedback on it that is bullshit that’s why they didn’t want to do it or what... I never gave him an indication that paying extra for the transmission service was gonna be a problem. With how important I always assumed it was I’m just kind of caught off guard and it made me feel a certain way about going back to their service department. 

[Grumpy Bear]

27 minutes ago, Marcusatx said:

And I guess that’s why I’m trying to understand why the dealer would suggest that it was at the dealership for the transmission flush And he called me to talk me out of doing it. He was acting like it was an cost thing, And like it was going to be so much more because of the specific transmission I am really just trying to get some feedback on it that is bullshit that’s why they didn’t want to do it or what... I never gave him an indication that paying extra for the transmission service was gonna be a problem. With how important I always assumed it was I’m just kind of caught off guard and it made me feel a certain way about going back to their service department. 

I know that feeling