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Agreed, I don't see the AT4-x being $10k more truck than the ZR2, $5k sure.  If I was going to spend AT4-x $, it would be a raptor or TRX, both are going to be so much truck for not that much more $.   In realty $66k isn't horrible, again a 21' AT4 can easily reach $66k, and this has everything that does plus lockers and better suspension. 

 

The wild card now is rebates and supplier pricing, they don't exist for the Raptor/TRX, so if GM keeps playing the rebate game when covid settles down it will knock those MSRP's way down, lowering effective prices and increasing the gap to the Raptor/TRX. 

 

Consumers are making their own pain here, no doubt companies have seen consumers willing to pay over MSRP for used vehicles of the last year, so they'd be crazy not to jack prices up.  If no one paid the inflated "market adjustment" BS we wouldn't see these prices now.

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ZR2 price isn’t too surprising. Or obscene. I mean it comes as a full load out at that price. Compared to a base Raptor or TRX it should be much better equipped in addition to being a little cheaper. And probably a little easier to live with on the day to day.
 

It is what it is. Everything is more expensive. Not the consumer’s fault. And not GM’s fault. Wholesale prices were up damn near 10% in November year over year. They can’t absorb that themselves. Stop printing money maybe.

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30 minutes ago, OnTheReel said:

ZR2 price isn’t too surprising. Or obscene. I mean it comes as a full load out at that price. Compared to a base Raptor or TRX it should be much better equipped in addition to being a little cheaper. And probably a little easier to live with on the day to day.
 

It is what it is. Everything is more expensive. Not the consumer’s fault. And not GM’s fault. Wholesale prices were up damn near 10% in November year over year. They can’t absorb that themselves. Stop printing money maybe.

 

Exactly. The big difference between the ZR2 and the base level Raptor or TRX, as you mentioned, is that the ZR2 will come with more "fully loaded" features standard. I really like this. It's about time GM made a truck that when you buy it, you get all the options priced in. 

 

The other difference is that GM will (eventually) slap rebates on these, whereas the other two are unlikely to see much off sticker... even after things "return to normal" (whatever that is). 

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Normal would be great ASAP. Wife needs something in the next year or two.
 

When I was at the dealer, they had a 2022 LD Silverado LTZ. Looked just like mine but it was a total Covid mule. Forget heated rear seats, it didn’t even have heated fronts. Just blanks over the holes. MSRP at 60k just like mine was, but half the truck. 5.3 8 speed, no tech package, no heated or vented seats, etc. Yikes. Feel legitimately bad for whoever pays that much for so little. Price going up is one thing. Equipment going down at the same time is a tough pill to swallow.


Hopefully the refresh trucks are designed around what the supply chain can support, or this is gonna get bad.

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1 hour ago, OnTheReel said:

Normal would be great ASAP. Wife needs something in the next year or two.
 

When I was at the dealer, they had a 2022 LD Silverado LTZ. Looked just like mine but it was a total Covid mule. Forget heated rear seats, it didn’t even have heated fronts. Just blanks over the holes. MSRP at 60k just like mine was, but half the truck. 5.3 8 speed, no tech package, no heated or vented seats, etc. Yikes. Feel legitimately bad for whoever pays that much for so little. Price going up is one thing. Equipment going down at the same time is a tough pill to swallow.


Hopefully the refresh trucks are designed around what the supply chain can support, or this is gonna get bad.

 

Wow. "COVID mule" is a great term! 😂 

 

Yeah, I feel bad for anyone buying these "2022" Silverado LD's. They must really need a new one to do that. 

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I’m surprised people are paying these prices. As often as I traded. If it wasn’t 15K off I didn’t buy. Of course I usually bought last year’s model. 

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