Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Posted (edited)

Hi All, new to the forum here and excited about purchasing my first truck!

I have put a deposit down on a 2021 RST with 5.3L Vortec with DFM (I verified this on the sticker that it has DFM). I also checked the build code on the door jam and it says Feb 2021. The car has about 11k miles and from the carfax report it has 3 service records inlcuding oil changes. Car was first bought in michigan and it made it to my local MA dealer via auction. It is CPO and I feel pretty good about that but now to the lifter spring question. There is a service note on that model and the manufacture date fits inside the service manufacture date to replace potentially faulty lifter springs.

Question is, do I raise this to the dealer before delivery and ask that it be done or just drive the car off and be ok with the fact that I have an extended CPO warranty for 100k miles and 6 years (I am unlikely to reach both as owner). I am not sure how I feel about techs fidling with thiese parts of the engine for an essentially brand new truck but also concerned to just be left stranded one day (something which could happen with any car) but this is a specific known issue. Any advise is appreciated.

Edited by Oscar Cabrera
Posted

I have the same thing..  2019 with 5.3 DFM and it's never been a problem although it has only 9,000 miles on it.

 

My biggest issue is the extremely jittery rear suspension that can cause the whole vehicle to fishtail without me pushing the brakes or gas although it's a rare occurrence, it's only happened three times since I bought it.

Posted

I think they would not replace the lifters until there is a problem. I wouldn't have a problem buying it but I would do more frequent oil and filter changes than the computers OLM. Cheap insurance IMO.

  • Like 1
Posted
39 minutes ago, Wiggums said:

My biggest issue is the extremely jittery rear suspension that can cause the whole vehicle to fishtail without me pushing the brakes or gas although it's a rare occurrence, it's only happened three times since I bought it.

Most usually learn to slow down after the first time.

  • Haha 2
Posted

I doubt they will do any work like that till the issue is there and they can diagnose it as having an issue. They would not get reimbursed from GM by just replacing something that might be a future problem. The dealership would have to "eat" the cost on such a repair.

  • Thanks 1
Posted
3 hours ago, Oscar Cabrera said:

Hi All, new to the forum here and excited about purchasing my first truck!

I have put a deposit down on a 2021 RST with 5.3L Vortec with DFM (I verified this on the sticker that it has DFM). I also checked the build code on the door jam and it says Feb 2021. The car has about 11k miles and from the carfax report it has 3 service records inlcuding oil changes. Car was first bought in michigan and it made it to my local MA dealer via auction. It is CPO and I feel pretty good about that but now to the lifter spring question. There is a service note on that model and the manufacture date fits inside the service manufacture date to replace potentially faulty lifter springs.

Question is, do I raise this to the dealer before delivery and ask that it be done or just drive the car off and be ok with the fact that I have an extended CPO warranty for 100k miles and 6 years (I am unlikely to reach both as owner). I am not sure how I feel about techs fidling with thiese parts of the engine for an essentially brand new truck but also concerned to just be left stranded one day (something which could happen with any car) but this is a specific known issue. Any advise is appreciated.

 

15 minutes ago, Oscar Cabrera said:

but GM has issued a service bulletin on on these engines. They would not have to eat anything. 

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2021/12/gm-releases-valve-lifter-service-update-for-v8-engines/

 

 

 

Get the CPO.  GM won't tear into a perfectly working engine and replace parts for no reason, UNLESS there is a special service extended coverage to repair a potential issue.

 

That document you linked.  That is for a GM Field Service Update.  Its not a bulletin as bulletins are advisories to aid in diagnostics of a vehicle and may contain a specific warranty labor code.  A field Service Update would involve actual work like reprogramming or installing a revised part.

 

Do you have a link to the truck you are looking at or do you have the VIN of this truck?  The Field Service Update, "N212353840 Service Update - Valve Lifter Repair" is VIN SPECIFIC.  Not ALL 2021 trucks have the coverage.  

Posted

So the plot thickens....Due to an available carfax I called a service center where it shows it was serviced and asked them if they could share with me what work had been done on the truck....and YES, it was the lifter issue which I am referring to here. The guy at the service center (not a chevy dealer) was very open and honest as I explained I was in the process of buying the car. He said it was lifter and pushrod issue and they had gone in and replaced both banks of lifters, seals, etc. etc. with the updated ones (they could not use the old ones even if they had them in stock). So essentially the failure has already happened in this truck and has been serviced. He said the main issue is the OCI and it should be done at 5k miles at most.  He said the trucks are notorious for this also, but also said that if the car was under warranty it would be covered if anything happened again. Thoughts now???

Posted
5 minutes ago, Oscar Cabrera said:

So the plot thickens....Due to an available carfax I called a service center where it shows it was serviced and asked them if they could share with me what work had been done on the truck....and YES, it was the lifter issue which I am referring to here. The guy at the service center (not a chevy dealer) was very open and honest as I explained I was in the process of buying the car. He said it was lifter and pushrod issue and they had gone in and replaced both banks of lifters, seals, etc. etc. with the updated ones (they could not use the old ones even if they had them in stock). So essentially the failure has already happened in this truck and has been serviced. He said the main issue is the OCI and it should be done at 5k miles at most.  He said the trucks are notorious for this also, but also said that if the car was under warranty it would be covered if anything happened again. Thoughts now???

Actually it was a chevy dealership - Al Serra in Michigan. Person I spoke to also said that they would be happy to share the repair history when I take ownership of the car. 

Posted
23 minutes ago, newdude said:

 

 

 

Get the CPO.  GM won't tear into a perfectly working engine and replace parts for no reason, UNLESS there is a special service extended coverage to repair a potential issue.

 

That document you linked.  That is for a GM Field Service Update.  Its not a bulletin as bulletins are advisories to aid in diagnostics of a vehicle and may contain a specific warranty labor code.  A field Service Update would involve actual work like reprogramming or installing a revised part.

 

Do you have a link to the truck you are looking at or do you have the VIN of this truck?  The Field Service Update, "N212353840 Service Update - Valve Lifter Repair" is VIN SPECIFIC.  Not ALL 2021 trucks have the coverage.  

Truck I am looking at had a manufacture date of 02/2021 in door jam sticker so it was affected by the bad parts. Also, the service center confirmed that the lifter service had been done on both banks back in mid Dec.

Posted
Just now, Oscar Cabrera said:

Truck I am looking at had a manufacture date of 02/2021 in door jam sticker so it was affected by the bad parts. Also, the service center confirmed that the lifter service had been done on both banks back in mid Dec.

 

 

So...do you have the VIN?

Posted
7 minutes ago, newdude said:

 

 

And the VIN is???

He just said he has it🤣😂🤣😂😬.

 

Wonder how this will end🤔

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Latest Articles

  • Posts

    • Progress... sort of.   Intake is disassembled, spider is out, fuel lines removed. Used a torch on the stripped screw with the lower intake off, much easier when I've got the intake sitting on my workbench, I made it talk. Walked right out with a pair of vice grips once it was nice and toasty hot.   New parts are piling up on my service cart waiting to be installed. Distributor, temperature sensor, new gaskets, fuel line kit, themostat, water neck.   My new pickle is I don't want to spend $600 on a replacement spider. I'm not sure IT is bad. I'm probably splitting hairs. Or it's $300 to send mine away and another 3 weeks of the truck just sitting. I have half a mind to assemble everything with the old spider to see if I can get away with just replacing the fuel pressure regulator to be safe. The obvious issue was the gushing high pressure fuel line which will be replaced. Getting to the spider really isn't that hard, and now I know what I'm doing , swapping it would be a breeze should it absolutely need one. Stupid, or smart?   The part that gives me pause is replacing the distributor. Well, it's already out. And I didn't mark it, whoopsie! Engine was at TDC when I removed it, I know that, so upon correct reinstall the metal tip on the rotor should point to the TDC mark on the distributor because that's where it was pointing on the old distributor. Worst case I'm a tooth off and have to re-stab it.   But then, what? I assume the truck will start. It doesn't appear the timing can be set. Here's the problem: These distributors can't be rotated but a degree or two, by design. What I read is Cam ****** needs to be -2 to +2 degrees, ideally at 0 (and checked/set above 1000 rpm). There should be enough wiggle to get that properly set, but checking the reported value is another potential issue. My Actron 9185 scanner says it supports enhanced GM PIDs and Cam ****** is one of them but it's unclear that I'll be able to correctly see it over OBD 1.5. I can see why people end up junking these things with life left in them. They're an absolute nightmare with tweener-year diagnostics/electronics and unobtanium parts.   Fingers crossed it starts and idles nicely. There can be hope, right? I'ma buy a lottery ticket the same day just in case.   Next steps..DO IT. I have not installed an intake before so I've been reading and watching a lot. Some say NO RTV except on china walls, some say DO RTV on water ports but not fuel/air intake. 1/4 or 3/8 bead on China walls? I think my strategy will be, obviously, RTV china walls with overlap on the gasket corners. Chapstick-style RTV the water ports. Leave intake ports dry. The only set of intake gaskets I could find locally are Edelbrock performance gaskets (uh...for an asthmatic 190hp V6? LOL) so we'll see how they do.   #NoToolLeftBehind. It took an hour, but my recovery mission for my deep 10mm socket was successful. It had rolled down the bellhousing and wedged itself between what I think are the fuel lines? I couldn't see it at all, but with a junk antenna I had laying around, I blindly went poking/sweeping for it, heard it clink, raised the truck, and caught a sliver glimpse of chrome with a flashlight way up there in Narnia. I had pushed it farther along the lines holding it captive, but within access of severely improvised tools, poking and cursing at it to finally knock it free to where I could get a fingertip on it to bring it home.    Not much to see.      
    • Thats crazy considering im right next door (Indiana)
    • For a limited time, retail and commercial accounts receive an AMSOIL Vinyl Tool Tray with their order of $500 or more when they use code TRAY726 at checkout. The promotion runs through July 21, 2026.   Order at https://syntheticadvantage.com   Want to use AMSOIL in your business or sell at your store, apply here.  https://www.amsoil.com/business-opportunities/?zo=521390  
    • It wouldn’t have happened if the government hadn’t mandated outrageous fuel mileage standards. It does very little for the consumer. It adds cost. Back during Covid there was a chip shortage. They gave a rebate for your truck if it didn’t have the chip to turn on cylinder deactivation. It was 50$ because at best you may see 1/2 a mile increase per gallon. Splitting hairs each fuel mileage trick wasn’t mandated. The government doesn’t do the engineering work and say use this until it’s already in use and they like it. The fuel mileage was mandated. And those add ons the results. There’s a mandate and they are the results.
    • It was never mandated.  Ever.    Automakers were incentivized to install it by getting CAFE credits to help with their vehicle fleet fuel economy scores.  They were being handed money/CAFE credits to install it.  Which is NOT a mandate.       The current admin removed the incentives that were behind them installing it.       
  • GM-Trucks.com Clubs

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...