GovtMule66 Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 My Dad owns a 2015 GMC Sierra 1500 Denali with the 5.3 engine package. A few back he noticed the truck wasn't cooling like it should and after checking the low & high side pressures decided to add a small amount of freon. When I say small I mean small because all it took to get the truck acting right again was about 5-6 oz of freon. Fast forward 2 weeks and now he is back in the same boat again and has began the process of tracking down the leak. The first place I looked was the AC Condenser but luckily his hasn't broke at the top corner like many others have experienced. Today I had my HVAC freon checker/sniffer out going over the truck and every time I passed over the left side of expansion valve it went off. Does anyone know if these Expansion Valves are known to leak here? The freon checker didn't go off when I passed over the o-rings where the cooling lines connect, it would only go off when I passed over the left side. Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
Snowcamo Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 When the system does not have pressure, unfortunately the expansion valve. It has two o rings. Replace them. You can use a heavy mix of soap and water to verify the leak. If bubbles are present with the system pressurized, then well..... 2
GovtMule66 Posted July 23, 2024 Author Posted July 23, 2024 6 hours ago, Snowcamo said: When the system does not have pressure, unfortunately the expansion valve. It has two o rings. Replace them. You can use a heavy mix of soap and water to verify the leak. If bubbles are present with the system pressurized, then well..... I followed your advice which I appreciate but now I have another question. As you can see in the photo below when we sprayed the soapy water on the expansion valve bubbles appear. If I turn off the AC off but leave the fan running bubbles appear. If I turn my fan & AC completely off the bubbles stop which I don't understand. The AC system in our truck is currently charged and working properly. Why would the bubbles stop the minute I cut the fan off if the expansion valve is leaking especially in a pressurized system? Is there any chance the air coming off the evaporator blower is passing by the expansion valve causing these bubbles? I guess if I put UV Dye in it would answer my question but I thought I would throw this out there. With the amount of bubbles I was seeing I wouldn't think a system would hold freon more then a day where this one is lasting about 2 weeks. Once again thanks for the help
txab Posted July 24, 2024 Posted July 24, 2024 If it only leaks while fan is running but not when compressor is running sounds like a simple plenum leak, not refrigerant 1
GovtMule66 Posted July 25, 2024 Author Posted July 25, 2024 (edited) 13 hours ago, txab said: If it only leaks while fan is running but not when compressor is running sounds like a simple plenum leak, not refrigerant The bubbles are present if I spray soapy water around the expansion valve then turn on the AC on. The bubbles are also present if I spray soapy water around the expansion valve and just turn the fan on by itself. The minute I turn the AC & Fan both off the bubbles stop. Maybe I'm wrong but I would think there should be bubbles all the time if the expansion valve is actually leaking. Thank you for offering to help us. Edited July 25, 2024 by GovtMule66 spelling
txab Posted July 25, 2024 Posted July 25, 2024 I would think so too. It would appear to be an air leak. There has to be some kind of seal or sealant where the X-valve penetrates the firewall
phatrabbitzz Posted September 22, 2025 Posted September 22, 2025 @GovtMule66did you ever figure this out?
GovtMule66 Posted September 23, 2025 Author Posted September 23, 2025 On 9/22/2025 at 9:25 AM, phatrabbitzz said: @GovtMule66did you ever figure this out? My Dad ended up having to replace the A/C Compressor along with the A/C Condenser which cracked in the same spot as other GM owners. Since we had the entire A/C unit basically torn apart we went ahead and replaced the expansion valve as well. I'm sorry I don't have a better answer for you. 1
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