Kerrville flooding

[customboss]

10 minutes ago, txab said:

Apparently you miss the humor. Of course their are "lots" of trailer parks. Other reason is a house might survive a tornado with a close brush, whereas a MH, not properly tied down, properly underpinned with more than just plastic panels and well constructed, will be obliterated by nearby wind speed.

I've been through it. My house and a neighbor's survived with window damage and loss of some roofing, but the house between us was gone. Fortunately working for Halliburton I was always gone and didn't have to be in the house when it hit

 

Also depends on size of the funnel of course too

 

Texas just as bad as Oklahoma. Honestly look at any “ conservative “ red MAGA supporting state and they are net suckers of federal funds. It’s the MAGA conundrum complain but  rely on Uncle Sam and blue states to fund them. Self supporting UH HUH. 

[KARNUT]

4 minutes ago, customboss said:

You might be giving working class a bit of a back handed slap. I lived in Ada OK for a few years and most there did not make enough for a basic house. So the rented or bought a mobile home. I respect your input. We disagree. That’s ok. Most working class People buy what they can afford and do best for their families. My kids in Greenville TX buy  Starbucks but they make $200,000 a year. Still broke. 

I bought my first house in the seventies. It was FHA during the high interest Carter administration. Average salary at 23 years old. I walked into a realtor office and asked how. I worked construction. I followed the blueprint saved every dime. One year later I was in my new home. Paying the same as rent. You can still do it. There’s mixed subdivisions just down the road from me. From low 200s to 700K in the same subdivision. There’s doers and complainers. 

[customboss]

Just now, KARNUT said:

I bought my first house in the seventies. It was FHA during the high interest Carter administration. Average salary at 23 years old. I walked into a realtor office and asked how. I worked construction. I followed the blueprint saved every dime. One year later I was in my new home. Paying the same as rent. You can still do it. There’s mixed subdivisions just down the road from me. From low 200s to 700K in the same subdivision. There’s doers and complainers. 

I take your point and lived it. I could not afford a house until 1985 because I made $6000/ average year serving my country. We are about same age. I moved 13 times from 1977 - 1985 serving in USN and US Army. What I’m saying is just because you did it doesn’t mean everyone can. That’s a false truth. Most families want a good honest life. Cost of living  Trump was gonna drop on day one is BS. Average worker who’s 30 years old with family is working multiple jobs and can’t afford meat right now. 

[txab]

MH parks are everywhere. You just hear about the ones that are in tornado alley most often

[customboss]

1 minute ago, txab said:

MH parks are everywhere. You just hear about the ones that are in tornado alley most often

Or in flood zones, cause the lands cheap and that’s where we put em. Screw the poor. 

[KARNUT]

36 minutes ago, customboss said:

I take your point and lived it. I could not afford a house until 1985 because I made $6000/ average year serving my country. We are about same age. I moved 13 times from 1977 - 1985 serving in USN and US Army. What I’m saying is just because you did it doesn’t mean everyone can. That’s a false truth. Most families want a good honest life. Cost of living  Trump was gonna drop on day one is BS. Average worker who’s 30 years old with family is working multiple jobs and can’t afford meat right now. 

My father in law had a small house in Fort brag shortly in his army career. My wife is the best money manager I’ve seen. I’m cheap, she’s frugal. My furniture is second hand, better than I would buy new. My clothes are mostly from resale shops. You can’t tell. My newest cars are usually CPO. Things are usually bought on sale. I’ll admit I’m well off. Much better than my working years. Mainly because my wife is an army brat. My father in law was career army. After working mostly at sears. He did have a restaurant for awhile. His second marriage failure took it and most of his savings. He worked into his 80s ended pretty well off. We weren’t high earners just frugal. 

[Atlas]

1 hour ago, customboss said:

Or in flood zones, cause the lands cheap and that’s where we put em. Screw the poor. 

 

I've found cost of living in a particular area generally equates to how desirable it is to live there, and also career opportunity. 

 

I'd never live in a place like OK or even the midwest just because it's cheaper to live there. Nope. Ain't gonna happen.

 

I'll add that Starbucks isn't the reason people are poor. People are poor because they're poor, coffee habits aside.

Edited July 22, 2025 by Atlas

[KARNUT]

12 minutes ago, Atlas said:

 

I've found cost of living in a particular area generally equates to how desirable it is to live there, and also career opportunity. 

 

I'd never live in a place like OK or even the midwest just because it's cheaper to live there. Nope. Ain't gonna happen.

 

I'll add that Starbucks isn't the reason people are poor. People are poor because they're poor, coffee habits aside.

The only way you can say that is because you’d never been there. I’ve been everywhere. There’s really not much difference but the weather. And if you live within the city it’s usually more liberal and where the trouble is. That’s in most cases. You go out rural it’s usually more friendly and more conservative. Even in California you get away from the city it’s more conservative and friendly. Usually if it’s more expensive you get paid more for work. My area is booming cost to buy a house is going up. People from California flooding the area selling their expensive California homes and retiring here. I’ve own places in South Carolina, New Jersey and Texas. If I won the lottery I’d move the whole family to Oklahoma. It’s beautiful hilly weather is pretty good. 

[Atlas]

2 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

The only way you can say that is because you’d never been there. I’ve been everywhere. There’s really not much difference but the weather. And if you live within the city it’s usually more liberal and where the trouble is. That’s in most cases. You go out rural it’s usually more friendly and more conservative. Even in California you get away from the city it’s more conservative and friendly. Usually if it’s more expensive you get paid more for work. My area is booming cost to buy a house is going up. People from California flooding the area selling their expensive California homes and retiring here. I’ve own places in South Carolina, New Jersey and Texas. If I won the lottery I’d move the whole family to Oklahoma. It’s beautiful hilly weather is pretty good. 

 

I've been there. And I have no desire to return because there are just way more interesting and IMO, better, places to live. Good thing we have a choice where to live in this country. You've chosen yours, I've chosen mine!

 

[customboss]

47 minutes ago, Atlas said:

 

I've found cost of living in a particular area generally equates to how desirable it is to live there, and also career opportunity. 

 

I'd never live in a place like OK or even the midwest just because it's cheaper to live there. Nope. Ain't gonna happen.

 

I'll add that Starbucks isn't the reason people are poor. People are poor because they're poor, coffee habits aside.

Pretty much true. Most lower middle class don’t know they are poor. Why they voted for a guy who just screwed them to wall. Big beautiful bill was beautiful for top scale mother fokkers. 

[KARNUT]

1 hour ago, Atlas said:

 

I've found cost of living in a particular area generally equates to how desirable it is to live there, and also career opportunity. 

 

I'd never live in a place like OK or even the midwest just because it's cheaper to live there. Nope. Ain't gonna happen.

 

I'll add that Starbucks isn't the reason people are poor. People are poor because they're poor, coffee habits aside.

Really? California, New York, New Jersey? I don’t think so. I believe people are leaving those high cost of living as you say desirable areas.

[Atlas]

8 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

Really? California, New York, New Jersey? I don’t think so. I believe people are leaving those high cost of living as you say desirable areas.

 

Likely because they no longer need the economic opportunity, i.e. retirement. Also, many of them can't afford to retire in California, either by choice, or poor planning.

[KARNUT]

2 minutes ago, Atlas said:

 

Likely because they no longer need the economic opportunity, i.e. retirement. Also, many of them can't afford to retire in California, either by choice, or poor planning.

Yea that’s it they lived and worked there all their lives. In this high cost high opportunity utopia. But in retirement they moved to an undesirable backwoods place like Oklahoma. Damn I wish I knew this before we moved our business from NJ to the backwoods like Texas to build our business back without oppressive regulations and high taxes. Imagine how lucky we are to thrive in these conditions. 

[Atlas]

2 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

Yea that’s it they lived and worked there all their lives. In this high cost high opportunity utopia. But in retirement they moved to an undesirable backwoods place like Oklahoma. Damn I wish I knew this before we moved our business from NJ to the backwoods like Texas to build our business back without oppressive regulations and high taxes. Imagine how lucky we are to thrive in these conditions. 

 

Like you said, it's about money. But I'm glad you enjoy where you live, that's what matters.

[customboss]

10 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

Yea that’s it they lived and worked there all their lives. In this high cost high opportunity utopia. But in retirement they moved to an undesirable backwoods place like Oklahoma. Damn I wish I knew this before we moved our business from NJ to the backwoods like Texas to build our business back without oppressive regulations and high taxes. Imagine how lucky we are to thrive in these conditions. 

So since so many wonderful people are moving to Texas please make up that the $154 billon difference between California contribution to feds vs  Texas  $71 billion deficit ( draining) to the federal government. 
 

I'm happy as a clam in Colorado so using Stan’s logic everyone should move to Colorado. Please don’t!

Edited July 22, 2025 by customboss