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What amazes me is that GM has a catch can in the works for the new 6th gen Camaro that is (supposedly) designed to drain back to the engine oil pan.

And this will further increase wear and shorten engine life. The PCV system performs several functions and only one is pollution control related. All else is to remove those damaging compounds. Since they do not have a way for these to not be emptied w/out end user doing so, they and the other automakers are going far past the point of attempting to slow the intake valve coking but at the sacrifice of engine life. Can't wait until the patent for the "self emptying" system is granted and the automakers will have it to work with. The provisional has been granted so look in the next 6 months or so (I hope) and it should be announced to the public. It goes 100k miles plus w/no maintenance required and stops 95% plus of the mix that causes all of this.

 

HndaHawk, watch for others doing what GM is as well. Crazy!

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Here at RX now they are doing a video install on my truck

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My dealership said my catch can wasn't needed and wouldn't catch anything. I opened it in there shop after 2,000 miles and let it run on the floor. Lol

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So, I added a second output fitting to my Original RX catch can. I had been emailing with the RevExtreme folks about the benefits of a dual output can, and they were gracious enough to send me the par

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Jsdirt Senior Enthusiast

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I'd be willing to bet the EPA would want to know what they expect the consumer to do with the sludge. Easiest solution for them is dump it back in the crankcase.

 

After all, GM isn't in business to make your engine last forever - they want to sell you a new one every year if they can ...

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I am sure the EPA would like to know what everyone is doing with their catch can drippings . I may be wrong but any alteration to do with emissions system is technically illegal without expressed permission from mfg. Especially any device that captures oil, and fuel hydrocarbons. Not against catch cans but just saying proper disposal of catch can contents falls where by the letter of the law . Has any mfg or the EPA endorsed aftermarket catch cans ? If not why ? Just food for thought .

amfr Enthusiast

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I just received my add w1 oil catch can. Can't wait to get it in and see how much oil it catches

 

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krdeal Enthusiast

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Just emptied mine today. Not much more than an ounce after almost 1000 miles. Must be the hot weather here.

Rock1500 Senior Enthusiast

Rock1500

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Just emptied mine today. Not much more than an ounce after almost 1000 miles. Must be the hot weather here.

People say if the temp gets under 45 that you start to collect a lot of water and stuff.

 

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Jsdirt Senior Enthusiast

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Below 40°, the amount of moisture produced increases exponentially with every 5° drop in temp it seems.

amfr Enthusiast

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Below 40°, the amount of moisture produced increases exponentially with every 5° drop in temp it seems.

I should be lucky then I live in a warm climate. All that is a threat is the oil

 

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I am sure the EPA would like to know what everyone is doing with their catch can drippings . I may be wrong but any alteration to do with emissions system is technically illegal without expressed permission from mfg. Especially any device that captures oil, and fuel hydrocarbons. Not against catch cans but just saying proper disposal of catch can contents falls where by the letter of the law . Has any mfg or the EPA endorsed aftermarket catch cans ? If not why ? Just food for thought .

They haven't that is why they are for off road use only. Thankfully If you change your own oil you know it's not hard to dispose of it and just need a container

 

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Proper disposal is with any drain oil station.

 

ALL Elite Engineering systems are emissions compliant and meet EPA guidelines. Only CA with it's own CARB cert required is not yet complete, but will be in the future.

 

As these few systems not only retain a 100% closed emissions compliant system, they also greatly improve the PCV systems function (the dual valve systems improve) and ultimately increase fuel economy and decrease tailpipe emissions by the engine not having to expel the results of trying to burn this mix of "gunk".

 

BUT, many catchcan systems sold today DO violate emissions and ARE not street legal. Any that vent or breather vent fumes are illegal in all 50 States. Any that defeat or delete any of the PCV systems functions as well. So that includes a good percentage of what are sold today.

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So I was emptying the can today and had a bit of an issue. I have the can mounted on the radiator support, so you can't get anything large in there to drain it. I've been meaning to run a hose to under the truck from the valve; guess I should do that now. I've been using a plastic solo cup to drain it, and today once the liquid got past the first line, I heard something dripping. Then I heard something pouring out. The first ridge in the solo cup was dissolved away. Like I could see this crap coming out around that line. I've used the same cup to drain it 4 times now, and every time it was above that first line. Closed the valve quickly and put a rag under the cup to get it out and away from the truck. I'm not sure how much dripped down, and I got up what I could with gloves and shop towels.

 

Would this concoction be able to dissolve plastic? I see a lot of people here pouring it into a plastic water bottle or cup, so I could see it becoming an issue if it can. I'll be using a glass mason jar from now on.

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So I was emptying the can today and had a bit of an issue. I have the can mounted on the radiator support, so you can't get anything large in there to drain it. I've been meaning to run a hose to under the truck from the valve; guess I should do that now. I've been using a plastic solo cup to drain it, and today once the liquid got past the first line, I heard something dripping. Then I heard something pouring out. The first ridge in the solo cup was dissolved away. Like I could see this crap coming out around that line. I've used the same cup to drain it 4 times now, and every time it was above that first line. Closed the valve quickly and put a rag under the cup to get it out and away from the truck. I'm not sure how much dripped down, and I got up what I could with gloves and shop towels.

 

Would this concoction be able to dissolve plastic? I see a lot of people here pouring it into a plastic water bottle or cup, so I could see it becoming an issue if it can. I'll be using a glass mason jar from now on.

 

For sure, if there was gasoline in the mixture.

Jsdirt Senior Enthusiast

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Certain plastics have zero tolerance to gasoline.

 

I learned this when I was 12 - I took the chain of my Yamaha BW80, and figured I'd let it soak in gasoline to clean it up, using an old humidifier base we used for oil changes. I came out the next day, and the chain was embedded 1/8" into the bottom of the pan! Had to pry it up off the bottom. Like cleaning cold taffy off the chain. What a pain ...

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Yeah I didn't think about gasoline being in the mixture. I've been impressed at what the E2-X has caught so far.

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