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Possible Blown Engine with less the 2,000 miles.

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Sierra Boy Enthusiast

Sierra Boy

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Yes...they are not the same as a muscle car but then again it never mattered back then either but does it matter now when you are spending big $ on a numbers matching

 

car? That is me wanting a new truck for what they cost. Mine was $55,000 and if anything that major happens then I think I would want the same. A new engine to be safe

 

is the smart thing to do of course but it will bug me to do so...JMOP

 

Sierra Boy

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SouthernSilveradoGuy85 Senior Enthusiast

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Yes...they are not the same as a muscle car but then again it never mattered back then either but does it matter now when you are spending big $ on a numbers matching

 

car? That is me wanting a new truck for what they cost. Mine was $55,000 and if anything that major happens then I think I would want the same. A new engine to be safe

 

is the smart thing to do of course but it will bug me to do so...JMOP

 

Sierra Boy

 

I was also saying that from what I've seen that even in classic trucks it doesn't matter nearly as much if it has matching #s. Of course it would be nice in any classic, but the price difference between matching #s and non-matching #s will be a whole lot more for a car than a truck. Just what I've noticed.

 

Again I'll just say that if the truck hasn't given him any other problems then I don't see a reason to even ask for another truck. If it's been problem ridden then ya, but he hasn't mentioned anything else. With 2,000 miles any problem would have shown by then. Trust me I would be completely pissed as I've had major work done on my old 98 when I had it and would be even more pissed if this happened to my '14, but all you can do is let them figure out the problem and the best solution. If they do have to replace the engine it's not like it will just be a regular crate engine. It will be a genuine GM engine that came in the K2s. The 1st engine that ble win my 98 I made sure they put the same 5.7 Vortec from a 96-98 truck so I knew it was at least the same exact engine mainly for when I needed to work on it. The 2nd time when it seized I sold it and I believe the shop I sold it to just put a regular crate engine in it. If it happened to me with this truck like it did him I would beg them to put a 6.2 in it but I know GM wouldn't go for that lol.

Sierra Boy Enthusiast

Sierra Boy

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I agree with allot of what your are say....it is not a fun thing to go through this ordeal with the engine going south but if the rest of the truck is problem free then I guess a

 

new GM engine with be the answer. Lets hope it is something non life threating for the engine and up and running again.

 

Your are right about the car being worth more then a matching number truck...just the thought of replacing the engine is allot of work and hoping all went well during the

 

transplant.

 

Sierra Boy

pm26 Senior Enthusiast

pm26

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GM is not going to give him a new engine. They will tear the engine apart and replace the faulty part (if they can find it).

pm26 Senior Enthusiast

pm26

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Think about all the millions of rod bearing caps that GM produces every year. Now think about how probable it is that least a couple of them were cast with a microscopic flaw.

Especially if they are made in China or Mexico and quality control has been thrown out the window. :rolleyes:

manlystanley Enthusiast

manlystanley

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So, the dealer got back to me, but I was out when they called. The voice mail said:

 

-- replacing cam shafts in truck.

-- Will be ready late Tuesday or Wednesday.

 

 

Question: How much damage can broken cam shafts cause??

 

 

Thanks,

Stan

pm26 Senior Enthusiast

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So, the dealer got back to me, but I was out when they called. The voice mail said:

 

-- replacing cam shafts in truck.

-- Will be ready late Tuesday or Wednesday.

 

 

Question: How much damage can broken cam shafts cause??

 

 

Thanks,

Stan

First, there no "camshafts" in this engine. It is a pushrod engine with a single central cam. Second, are you sure they are not replacing the hydraulic valve lifters or pushrods instead of the cam shaft? If one or more lobes broke on the cam, one or more valves would not move, causing all kinds of performance problems and a lot of smoke and very rough running engine. If the engine is only noisy, most likely one of the hydraulic valve lifters is bad.

manlystanley Enthusiast

manlystanley

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First, there no "camshafts" in this engine. It is a pushrod engine with a single central cam. Second, are you sure they are not replacing the hydraulic valve lifters or pushrods instead of the cam shaft? If one or more lobes broke on the cam, one or more valves would not move, causing all kinds of performance problems and a lot of smoke and very rough running engine. If the engine is only noisy, most likely one of the hydraulic valve lifters is bad.

 

 

No idea then. Further, it does not give me a rosy felling that they are telling me that non-existent parts are being replaced!

I'm been calling up the dealer, no one is returning my phone calls.

 

Best Regards,

Stan

beetle Enthusiast

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No idea then. Further, it does not give me a rosy felling that they are telling me that non-existent parts are being replaced!

I'm been calling up the dealer, no one is returning my phone calls.

 

Best Regards,

Stan

 

Then make a personal visit and stop relying on vague phone messages and secondhand information.

Ventilator Senior Enthusiast

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Don't let 'em blow smoke up your azz. I would be going down there to see what condition the motor is in, and for clarification of the problem. I would also request to see the faulty parts before they send them back to GM.

 

Good luck, and keep a record of all your contacts and communications with them, just in case it is needed later.

 

manlystanley Enthusiast

manlystanley

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Damn. Called up the service manager, read off PM26's email, like I knew what I was talking about. He said, that oh sorry..... The complete engine has failed and they are putting in a new engine. I said I wanted to go see it. I am on my way down.

 

I'm concerned they are blowing smoke and am just patching it up and keeping the original engine.

 

 

I'll tell you guys what happens.

 

 

 

Thanks!

 

 

Best regards,

Stan

RyanbabZ71 Senior Enthusiast

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Damn. Called up the service manager, read off PM26's email, like I knew what I was talking about. He said, that oh sorry..... The complete engine has failed and they are putting in a new engine. I said I wanted to go see it. I am on my way down.

 

I'm concerned they are blowing smoke and am just patching it up and keeping the original engine.

 

 

I'll tell you guys what happens.

 

 

 

Thanks!

 

 

Best regards,

Stan

Sounds fishy from their first response to now replacing the engine. Sounds like someone got their messages crossed up (not you)

 

 

Ryan

bdbake01 Senior Enthusiast

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A personal inspection is in order. Good call. Like PM said, only one camshaft. But a broken camshaft can wreak ALL kinds of havoc. But a broken cam is highly unlikely. Just doesn't happen that often in a production engine. Anything is possible I guess, but damn.

 

Fishy, went from "camshaftS" to "new engine".

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manlystanley

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I went out to the dealership, and I need to update my last e-mail.

 

-- The service front end guy, is confused or something.

 

-- He told me there was a broken CAM shaft (via voice mail). But, the service manager told me it needed a new engine.

 

-- I have dealt with this dealer before, and they always seemed to be very honest and wanted to satisfy customers. So, I have no reason to doubt what they say.

 

-- The service manager showed me the part that pushed the piston up and down. It looked like a U with a large bolts on both ends.

 

-- he said, they could have fixed it, but, did not want to chance it with such a new truck.

 

-- I told him: I want on the receipt: New engine and that it has been in the shop since the 23'rd. He said no problem.

 

-- I asked to see the new engine, he said it had not come yet.

 

-- So, I am getting a new engine, I fell good about that. But, wonder, if I should go back tot he selling dealer and demand a new truck? I don't know.

 

Anyways, you guys have been great!!

bdbake01 Senior Enthusiast

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That's a piston rod, not a camshaft. But good deal on new motor.

 

Any chance to step up to the 6.2? ;)

 

Get any pics of the rod?

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